mutumbo

Sorry, for some reason when i asked that i totally blanked on the fact that youd already posted your full stance, and why. Thats what i get for posting half-asleep. Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

Oh, definitely. You have a large say(and in some instances THE say)of what happens from the start of the incident all the way though the ems care. so, just to clarify, what is your stance on CPR pre-EMS arrival? Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

You state that my saying that bystanders should start cpr because the person may have such a low BP that a pulse is not palpable is illogical, yes basically confirm what i said, saying that "it cant hurt". if a person has such a low pulse that its not palpable, the major organs. are not being perfused, so pulse or no pulse, they are still in need of chest compressions to supplement what their heart is not doing/attempting to do. the issue to contamination of bodily fluids, to some extent i could see that a justifible reason not to attempt resuscitation, in some situations, DZs SHOULD have at least gloves on site if they dont, theyre useful for more things other than scraping up squished people. i know some have more things available, but thats a different debate in itself

YUUUP!! and there is a super comfy. . . i mean totally uncomfortable rocking chair Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

Didja play "Kiss Me, I'm Shitfaced"?

Absolutely. He's not allowed a TI! He's been threatening to jump since the last St Patricks boogie. You need to twist his arm and get him out there Andy. Yeah, I know. I talked to him several times last year but...for every reason there was an excuse. He finally got wind of the "I already cracked a beer" excuse. mutumbo you can borrow my sig line for the boogie HAHA thanks rick! i sure used it last year and Andy, yeah i remember, well see how this year plays out. hopefully itll be different..... Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

Oh no. Im DEFINIELY not doing a tandem. Lol. Thats in case i bring some friends who would be interested Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

Absolutely. ok cool. just checking,

are there going to be AFFI's and TIs working there this year? Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

well if yall get bored and want a new friend, feel free to add me, mutumbo445

In a traumatic arrest, yes, but im sure people have died by other reasons than going splat at a DZ. But someone can have a pulse and the people first responding may not be experienced enough to find it, or it may be so soft that its not noticible. So i dont think swearing off all CPR efforts pre-EMS arrival is a good idea. You lack a radial pulse around 90 systolic, carotid at around 60 systolic, and femoral around 30(if you can find that damn one in the first place). just last night i ran a guy who after majorly losing a fight, being hit in the head with a bat causing a MAJOR avulsion, and a ton of other injuries, had a BP OF 60/20. Initially, and was all but unresponsive, barely had a carotid....to the layperson hes dead....but after some fluids and positioning we got his bp up around 90 systolic. Hes doing "ok" last i heard tonight. Long story short...without a blood pressure cuff and a cardiac monitor not many people are too dead for me to not attempt CPR at least untill EMS arrives. Caveat to above: if they have brains hanging out or his head is 30 feet from his body then yes, id withhold CPR. Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

Ive got it on xbox. But i havent played in a bit. Lol. Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

I was lucky when i was jumpig in deland i was driving throu orlando, so ive got more time in the tunnel than i do the air :) so i never really got that humbling experience, since i was ok (for my experience) in both. But tunnel flying is suuuper fun :) i cant wait to go back someday. Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

As far as I know, due to the lady in his life, he's started to "settle down." Not sure if he's still jumpin' or not. when i talked to her a few weeks back, she sounded like they would be attending. Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

On the subject of cpr with a pulse....the latest american heart assoc guidelines state that IMMEDIATELYfollowing a shock you are to do 2 mins of CPR and THEN check a pulse. So in theory the person could have a pulse while yor doing compressions.... Long story short, if someone collapses, and have been trained in CPR, and feel confident in Your abilities, and you cant palpate a pulse....start compressions. Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

HAHAHA. i can only imagine the pilots response Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

ok so let me ask you this, since you brought up the big IF. . . how do you determine how much time you have and what the situation is, without putting your hands on someone? im a paramedic by trade, and even I cant tell how serious someone is from 20 feet away. kinda hard to tell if someone has a pulse and is breathing from across the DZ. so with out assessing them physically, you dont know. and if you do go up and assess them and determine that they are in cardiac arrest/respiratory arrest/distress/whatever, after doing that you are just going to stand around and do nothing? this is probably the best thing you can do for EMS people EVER. do what you can till we get there, , give me a QUICK summary of what happened, answer questions the best you can, and then stay out of the way, unless we ask you to do something, (which happens often) that is the greatest help you could possibly be. Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

not quite. and as far as Grimmie's video, hes mailed me a copy a while back, and as far as treating skydiving related events, it is EXCEPTIONAL. id recommed it to any fire dept r EMS service who has a dropzone in their nearby coverage area. Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

Yaaay. Now its official. Since its on facebook :) Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

care to elaborate? Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

Hahaha Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

i know man! it was an epic good time, which is why this decision is so hard, lol. ill have to see what Spence plans for the rest of the weekend, and go from there. well see

i dont know if im going to go this year or not. even though i didnt jump last year it was still an absolute blast! and i got to meet alot of you fun people. nothing like sitting on the porch for 16 hrs drinking beer watching the mayhem. im torn between this or flying up to boston to see dropkick murphys play st pattys day. ahhh! decisions decisions!! Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

fun fact that you may or may not know. . . tylenol is one of the most common (if not the) drugs used in drug related suicide attempts. which is a HORRIBLE idea, because most times it does not kill you, yet will totally destroy your liver, making the rest of your life so much more fun. and as far as the legal/illegal drug OD rates, most the ones i personally see are legal drugs abused or obtained illegally. things like lortabs, and xanax are the leaders that come to my mind. obviously this isnt a national standard, and may represent nothing but my own experience(but i HIGHLY doubt it, id venture the guess that it is nation wide), its just what i see on a daily basis. and for reference, im a paramedic, so i see this shit first hand and almost daily. and im not going to even go down the road of 14 docs prescribing 14 different kinds of meds all pretty much treating the same problem. . . Thanatos340(on landing rounds)-- Landing procedure: Hand all the way up, Feet and Knees Together and PLF soon as you get bitch slapped by a planet.

LOL