dreamdancer

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  1. ok, we seem to have the wheel back on the bus
  2. here is the problem... http://www.alternet.org/workplace/131456/americans_are_rearing_for_a_fight_with_corporate_power/?page=entire stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  3. There was talk of implementing a positive discrimination plan to boost ethnic minority recruitment in the UK police service. I don't know whether the plan was ever implemented. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6572897.stm Under such a plan, if two job candidates met the required standards, the candidate whose ethnicity is under-represented in the force would be selected . this scheme never went ahead as described. how about this for a better example? http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2006/jan/09/business.workandcareers stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  4. but if the black employer/interviewer hired twenty black workers in a row that would definitely be racism - yes? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  5. no preferential treatment here - only mention of 'take into account'. do you have any specific examples to illustrate your position? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  6. it might matter as to motive but whether racism is being expressed it makes no difference. say in the cubicle next to this employer/interviewer there is another (it's a large corporation) black employer/interviewer who has, in similar circumstances, also hired twenty white workers in a row. is this racism? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  7. that's why affirmative action is not racist
  8. for this mental 'thought experiment' it doesn't matter what colour the employer/interviewer is (shall we say yellow?) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  9. how? - the racism cannot be proved, only suspected. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  10. over the course of several months the employer makes the same hiring decision in the same circumstances - black and white equally qualified - ten times in a row. is this racism? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  11. a few weeks later the employer is put in the same situation. exactly equal qualifications from both a white and a black worker. he does another mental coin 'flip'. the white guy is hired. is this racism? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  12. you're describing affirmative action
  13. a white guy and a black guy in some fictional land, apply for a job. upon interview the employer finds that both candidates are exactly equal; same qualifications, same personality etc... the employer is in a quandary. who to hire? the employer decides to do a mental coin 'flip' and thus picks one of the guys. the white guy is hired. is this racism? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  14. Giving women the right to vote was an act of equality. Afirmative action seeks to address an imbalance by creating an opposite imbalance, not by creating equality. If they'd given women two votes to redress the previous imbalance where they had no votes, that would have been afirmative action. good stuff
  15. affirmative action, on the other hand, takes as its basis that the races and the sexes are equal. (giving women the right to vote was at one time an example of affirmative action) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  16. no, racism is a belief that your race is somehow superior to another - and then acting on that belief
  17. a lot of words here denying you are either racist or sexist. you are also not a 'liar, bigot or coward' (but anyone who disagrees with you is). (do you talk regularly to god - and does she answer back?) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  18. i think perhaps you should stick to the stories in the bible
  19. you seem to be saying here that corporations are comparable, morally, to people. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  20. so a gun is an amoral object - like a corporation. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  21. but you've also said the gun has the morality. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  22. methinks you want to re-read your history - you seem a bit lost
  23. the way i read it a secret ballot is not the default and unions do not want to 'get rid of it'
  24. your facts are wrong... http://www.alternet.org/workplace/131456/americans_are_rearing_for_a_fight_with_corporate_power/?page=entire stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding