BruceSmith

Here's my short list: 1. Interfering with our understanding with how serious Andy's mental state was. 2. Threatening to sue me if I published my book on DB Cooper where I said that Kenny C has "troubling" relationships with young men and runaways. 3. Telling the Auburn PD that I was dangerous and a threat to public safety, passing my head shot around, etc. 4. Being an all-round weasel and scumbag.

Thanks for clearing that up, Bobby. Oh Bobby, in case I didn't make myself clear, go fuck yourself.

Well, Shutter is able to see "dead people" so to speak, but Ted E kills them, at least that's what a court decided in terms of convicting him for causing the death of two of his skydiving students. I also understand that a bunch more died over the years at his DZ, 20 or so, I think. Ted E's guys also had a run-in with RH-1 at Aurora State Airport, which caused a lot of grief over unsafe conditions. But the Big Question is how Ted E helped RH-1 and the Bureau during their Norjak investigation, as RH-1 states in his book. I called Ted E to see what was cookin', but he hung up on me. I don't know if you can call Ted E a murderer, but I didn't think he would be so sensitive.... I find it funny that so many Norjak principals love to live under or near the Victor 23 airway. RH-1 and Tina sure do, and Ted E is just west of Tina on the way to the beach. Plus, Lee and Jane aren't that far away, either, in the Puget Sound area near Olympia. The Ted E Not-Fan Club is quite large, as I think 9 people called the night of the skyjacking to tell the FBI that Ted E did it. But RH-1 was on the phone with Ted E, so the feds thought he had a pretty good alibi. Why Ted E gets so much attention is a mystery to me, as he is about a half-foot too short and about ten-fifteen years younger than DB Cooper. Speaking of things in Oregon, have you heard about the interview with Tina that got published in the Eugene Weekly? I'm following up on it. Not sure it's legit or what, but she claims that she flew NWO routes to the Orient for five years after the Cooper incident. Kind of shoots the KC theory, eh? Also, Tina says she was flying with NWO until 1982, which is weird. Sister Elizabeth Mary told me she was already in the convent by then. Hmmmmmmm. One last thing about Ted E. Divorzic (spelling?) and Meyers really got under Georger's skin. Since G-1 is no longer here, you might go to Shut's site and ask the Old Man about Ted and the two would-be sleuths

Exactly. All Bruce is really doing is trying to milk some poor kid's problems into a public kudo for him. If he really cared about the kid, he would have made his inquiries and kept them off the internet, or advised people privately. Anything else is self-serving, and by the way Bruce...the kid DID see your posts. So did his mother. That's probably why they blocked your phone. I have already been in contact with both of them. And eveything is just fine. No more intervention necessary from you. I'm not the police of DZ, nor am I your boss Mr Bruce. But if I were the moderator, you would be gonzo in a quick, fast, New York hurry. Okay, so you're talking to the Auburn PD, Andy and his mom, but you're not talking with us about what we want to know, which is - how do you get the phone number and email address of a kid who wants to kill himself because he thinks you don't like him. What's up with that, Blevs? You don't think we're entitled to know, even though the kid posts a suicide threat right in front of our eyes? I say you have an obligation to tell us. I've spent a lot of time this month trying to get this kid help, keep him safe, and figure out what is going on, and you're gonna try to clam up on me? Nah. That ain't gonna happen, Bobby.

Update on Danielle1010, 5:30 pm PT 1. I called Andy's mother a few minutes ago. Her phone is now blocked. Nevertheless, I was able to bypass the block and leave a message. 2. I believe I have done all that is appropriate at this moment. Therefore I will await further developments before taking any more action. 3. I'm surprised that none of the moderators have commented here. I haven't contacted them; perhaps someone should. I'll leave it to others, as policing the DZ is not my passion, or rather, telling the mods how to do their job is not my job.

Your perfume still ain't working, Jo. Go take a bath and scrub harder. In case Andy dies, you gonna bitch how we dig the grave?

Update, Sunday 2:20 pm PT 1. Danielle1010's actual suicide threat has been scrubbed from the DZ. Post #55087 is no longer posted. His words are only visible in responses by Bobby and me to his original post. 2. I will be sending a detailed email note to the GA CPS intake people shortly. Names, addresses, phone numbers, etc. of all the major players, including copies of the suicide threat posted here and Blev's response of a gift of books. 3. I have alerted the GA CPS that Robert M Blevins has the personal and private email address of Andrew. In addition, I said that Mr. Blevins seems to have some kind of relationship with Andrew. In fact, Andrew's disappointment with Blevins and the relationship seems to be at the core of his wanting to kill himself. 4. Georger, at Shut's site, indicates that GA LE is involved, along with officials from CNN.

Update, Sunday, 2 pm PT 1. I have called the Poppens residence in Georgia. No answer, so I left a detailed message. 2. I sent a message and "friend request" to Danielle Poppens, Andy's mother, on her Facebook page. Again, no response. 3. Danielle1010 has never responded to my postings here at the DZ and continues to abstain from giving any acknowledgement or comment to our concerns for his welfare. 4. Blevs claims that he has the personal email address of Andy Poppens, and has been in personal contact with both Andy and his mother. Yet he fails to discuss the nature of his relationship with this family. So, Bobby, how the heck did you get the private email address of a 15 year-old kid who is threatening to kill himself?

Here are the stats: Suicide is the third leading cause of death among young people, resulting in about 4,400 deaths per year, according to the CDC. For every suicide among young people, there are at least 100 suicide attempts. Over 14 percent of high school students have considered suicide, and almost 7 percent have attempted it. 440,000 suicide attempts by youths in the USA this year, Bobby. You gonna roll the dice? What makes you feel so smug and cock-sure we're not going to have a death here? You know something about Andy we don't know?

If Andy is dead tomorrow, whom do I blame then? Whom will you blame?

You allegations are incorrect, Bobby. Everything specific that I posted I got from the DZ: from your posts and Andy's. You provided the name of the school, and his medical diagnosis. He provided his full name and his mother's name. In fact, it is his moniker here at the DZ. The fact that a family named Poppens lived in Sumner and Bellevue, WA is already posted on the Internet. I have not posted a link to her Facebook page or her full name. Yes, she is on Facebook, but that is her choosing. More importantly, Bobby, what is your relationship with Andy and his family? According to your previous post you are in communication with both Andy and his mom. What's up with that? Are you a family friend? Have you met them in person? Why are you gifting Andy? I'm trying to find out if some kid in this world is really going to kill himself and to do something about it that might prevent it. What are you doing? How is giving me shit gonna help anyone? And I'm the one trying to look important?

I have been concerned about Danielle1010 for some time. I have been in contact with Georgia Child Protective Services since August 9, 2014. So, Bobby, fuck off.

Characterizing threats of suicide as "certain actions" grossly misrepresents the seriousness of this matter. Yes, I spoke with an official at the Georgia State Child Protective Services. Unlike you, Mrs. Cooper, I have professional training and experience in the matter of youths committing suicide and the steps one can take to prevent these tragedies. Hence, I knew an intake officer would be available to receive my notice. I get the sense that you prefer committing the character assassination of me rather than saving the life of a kid. Way to go, Jo. Your Southern charm really stinks tonight.

I only posted here the names that you provided previously, or Andy did. I did not introduce anything personal to the Internet that is new material. Only my actions. As stated above, I take suicidal threats seriously.

Please have them contact me and confirm. As of this moment, 10:15 PT, I have not heard from Andy or his mother.

Okay. That does it. Dannie Ten-Ten, if you're a real kid named Andy, I'm stepping into your life. I take suicidal threats seriously. Hence, I'm going to contact Atlanta CPS, your school and family. To everyone else, I'll keep you posted as to wtf is happening here. Update on Dannie 10-10 1. I called Georgia CPS this evening and apprised them that a kid named Andrew Patrick Poppens, aka Dannie Ten-Ten, is threatening to harm himself by jumping off a bridge. They have passed the notice on to Fulton County Child Welfare. 2. I have located a "Poppens" family north of Atlanta, and have a phone number and address. I will call tomorrow, Sunday, August 24, 2014, since it is currently about 10:30 pm Eastern Time. 3. I will also call Cumberland Academy, either tomorrow or Monday, as classes resumed on August 14. 4. I have discovered that the "Poppens" family that is in Georgia north of Atlanta had also lived previously in Bellevue and Sumner, Washington. Bobby B, since Sumner, WA is next door to Auburn, is there anything you want to tell us about Andy? Anything you want to tell CPS? Their number is 1.855.422.4453. Update II I sent a message to Danielle Poppens on her Facebook account, as per EVick's link. In addition, I visited "Andy Poppens" Facebook page. There is nothing there except the same pix that he uses as his avatar here. No friends, no timeline, etc. Also, Danielle lists an "Andy" as her son.

Okay. That does it. Dannie Ten-Ten, if you're a real kid named Andy, I'm stepping into your life. I take suicidal threats seriously. Hence, I'm going to contact Atlanta CPS, your school and family. To everyone else, I'll keep you posted as to wtf is happening here. Update on Dannie 10-10 1. I called Georgia CPS this evening and apprised them that a kid named Andrew Patrick Poppens, aka Dannie Ten-Ten, is threatening to harm himself by jumping off a bridge. They have passed the notice on to Fulton County Child Welfare. 2. I have located a "Poppens" family north of Atlanta, and have a phone number and address. I will call tomorrow, Sunday, August 24, 2014, since it is currently about 10:30 pm Eastern Time. 3. I will also call Cumberland Academy, either tomorrow or Monday, as classes resumed on August 14. 4. I have discovered that the "Poppens" family that is in Georgia north of Atlanta had also lived previously in Bellevue and Sumner, Washington. Bobby B, since Sumner, WA is next door to Auburn, is there anything you want to tell us about Andy? Anything you want to tell CPS? Their number is 1.855.422.4453.

Okay. That does it. Dannie Ten-Ten, if you're a real kid named Andy, I'm stepping into your life. I take suicidal threats seriously. Hence, I'm going to contact Atlanta CPS, your school and family. To everyone else, I'll keep you posted as to wtf is happening here.

I understand the sunsets over Groom Lake are outstanding. Definitely Miller Time. A tad dusty, though. There are the signs, the cameras, the patrols, the ground sensors, and ready-to-go aerial recon and interception stuff there. No one gets within 25 miles of that place unless they are authorized, or have a death wish. Tell you what though. I wouldn't mind having one of the Highway 395 signs that lead to the place. They say 'Extraterrestrial Highway' on them. Too cool. I've done a lot of driving in Nevada over the years. Like on the way to Eureka, Nevada...there is this vast open white desert plain that goes out forever. Makes the Bonneville Salt Flats look like peanuts. So...I drive out there a couple of miles and actually go camping. Why? Because you can do long-distance target shooting that is so ridiculous you have to use your truck to go and check the targets you just fired at. LOL...too far to walk out and check. This is where you really discover the effective range of any scoped weapon. You can do Quigley Down Under stuff for sure out there. Just aim HIGH. And of course we need to give a hat tip to Burning Man, which starts this weekend, I believe. I just got an email from the Institute of Noetic Sciences that announces they are doing consciousness studies at Burning Man this year. All that isolation and common purpose are ideal to study quantum entanglement.

I understand the sunsets over Groom Lake are outstanding. Definitely Miller Time. A tad dusty, though. But the fishing's great as long as you use sand flies.

Ah, Groom Lake. Tell me, Mrs. Cooper, did Duane has nightmares about owls?

I appreciate your sensitivities, Eighteen-C, but I think my fellow stool-mates at the DZ Bar and Grill are a tad shaken this week. First Bobby B disappears into Spam-Space, which has never happened before, and then Mrs. Cooper whips the winds of the Cooper Vortex and claims that her husband was both DB Cooper and construction guy on the UFO facilities at Area 51. You just picked a doozy of a week to stop by and have a drink with us. Cheers!

This Area 51 connection messes up everything about my conscious 727 choice theory. Cooper didn't even need a door. Teleporting through a Boeing fuselage shouldn't have been much of a problem. The chute request was just a clever diversion. Had he made his exit with no chute, the Area 51 connection would have been immediately obvious. That bomb was not an explosive device but rather an anti gravity force generator, something Bruce knows a lot about. Duane could have left prison any time he wanted to, bars were no barrier, but he stayed for a reason. It was part of his mission. He ought to get a posthumous medal. 377 And to think, T-S-S, that I thought you weren't paying attention all these years. Ahhhh, all the years of ridicule that I have endured now seem worth it. I believe we are finally getting somewhere!

If you wait long enough, Jo will connect everything. With Area 51 now in the mix we have a vertical alternative. Cooper may have gone UP after exitng. 377 Maybe 377 is correct. And for 43 years we have all been looking DOWN. Perhaps Bruce will explain the Area 51 connection in more detail. Robert99 I'm lickin' my chops, eager with anticipation to do just that, Robert Ninety-Nine. More to follow.

Interesting information......and is contrary to what Carr led us to believe. Personally, I did not think that large amounts of cash would be stored in the FBI offices around the country. My bad, Miss Vicki. Yes, the money was not stored in the FBI offices. Rather, if I recall properly, the money remained in the bank of origin and some kind of special arrangement was made for the bank to provide the FBI with 'round the clock access. The transcripts you provide describe something close to what I remember being discussed 1,000 pages ago (or maybe it was only 500 pages....)