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So, did Kenny meet Tina during their hops to Japan? Does it rule out KC as DBC? Just askin'.

Update on Prince Robert and Tina Now that Robert M has been acknowledged as a member of the Royal Court of Cooper, his subjects eagerly await his pronouncement on the status of Kenny flying NWO routes to the Orient for 20 years after the skyjacking. Tina now says that she too flew to Japan in the years after the skyjacking. So, what say you, Prince Robert? Did Tina and Kenny ever meet? If they did, what did they say? Eg: "Don't I know you from somewhere?" Or, "Haven't we met before?" Or, "You're still smoking Raleigh's?" Regardless, they must have made peace with each other concerning the "incident," since they flew the same routes for YEARS. If you go to Oregon to speak with Tina to clarify this, please give her my regards. Also, if you don't want me to continue asking you this question, please let me know. It's just that I don't know who else to ask since Skipp P. is dodging the question, apparently.

Exactly, Bobby. Your steadfast dedication to your research - despite all your blunderings - is why you have been selected to the Royal Court of Cooper. Welcome, Prince Robert. May you be worthy to continue wearing the crown.

Ahhh, but there is a middle ground: Bruce's. MK Ultra stuff. Drugs. Brainwashing. Multiple people made to believe that they were Cooper. I don't think that happened but I never would have believed that some of the MK Ultra stuff happened either and it sure did. But I draw the line on gravity. It s a physical law not a preference or an option. If those TM "hoppers" really think they are conquering gravity let them hop out of our King Air 90 at 14,000 ft. I guarantee you that it won't end well if they jump chuteless. I'd be very surprised if Norjack was Cooper's first crime but it's possible. I defended accused criminals for years. The guys with a serious felony charge always had a long rap sheet. Homicide was the only exception. Sometimes a person without a record just snaps and kills someone. But you rarely saw that in heavy duty money crimes. Those guys had records. But as one Oakland PD detective told me: kid, don't ever think you really know criminals. You only deal with the ones who get caught. 377 Ah, the Fog of Crime.

Remorse hell! Jo, exactly what did YOU do to make sure that boy didn't jump off the Tacoma Narrows bridge(s) as he had threatened? And now you are claiming that Bruce is capable of killing? That is really a stretch for even you! Jo, get help for your emotional problems! Robert99 That boy had nothing to do with the kid in Ga. Bruce knows what I am talking about and it has ZERO to do with this thread. It regards ISSUES Bruce needs to deal with and IT is ZERO about the kid in GA..... ROBERT 99 YOU are WAY off BASE! THAT BOY is how DUANE referred to himself - it was alway in second person! Now I suggest you get some help - you jump the gun to quickly - and you could kill an innocent person like that. BRUCE KNOWS ALL TO WELL WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT! If Bruce is UPSET then he knows I know something about him I am NOT supposed to know. It was a message to Bruce that I know his secret! I have no idea what you are talking about, Jo.

YOUR postings Bruce are obtuse and offensive...YOU come here to diss others and make yourself feel good and to be hear. YOU never consider the feelings and motives or reasons others defend their subject. Yes, Blevins is into this for the story, but he has manners you could only wish for. At least he was raised to respect others! He defends himself & he believes KC was Cooper - maybe he feels this way because HE has had direct contact with his witnesses - a situation you will never encounter. You infuriate those you do interview! You do not interview - you interrogate. The personality presented on this thread is that of a bully. You are opinionated & you get angry & tantalized anyone who does not agree with you. I base this on actual postings made by you in reference to specific interviews....and from my own personal experience with you. I believe you are capable of causing harm to anyone who might disagree with you. You do NOT just question - you badger, demean and co-erse. And you just show up on the door! You are scary! You are rude as hell if the person does not comply. What does it take to make you leave someone alone. It is not like you are on our doorstep. God help the person who asks you to leave for the 3rd or 4th time and then reaches for a crow bar or baseball bat. There may be a lot of truth in what you say, Mrs. Cooper. Nevertheless, what do you say about the importance of Tina saying that she flew to Japan for five years after the skyjacking? That pretty much shoots down KC, doesn't it?

See Bobby, that's why I worry about you. And I can't depend on your friends to save you either, at least not unconditionally. Two weeks ago, your 15 year-old friend wanted to kill himself because he was afraid you didn't like him any more. And then last weekend your aphasic co-author broke his wrist riding his bike and then spilled his vodka into his keyboard. And you can't keep your stories straight, either! Last time you told this one you were lost at sea for 24-hours. Now, it's three days - Yikes, 72 hours in 52 degree water? You are truly the PNW Super-Sea-Serpent! And that's not counting the time you went into the North Cascades and got stuck in the snow for a month with only a bunch of Hot Chocolate packets, or the time you couldn't climb up the hill in the Cascadian wilderness because the sleet was coming down too hard and you were stranded for a day or two. You're at risk, Bobby. My hair is turning grayer by the day!

Mostly to hear myself talk, see my views in print, experience my grandeur - stuff like that. You? Along those lines, I just checked your stats. They're impressive Mrs. Cooper - 7,900 posts, and as you mention most of them are quite lengthy.

I think you're safe, Miss Amazona. I'm 98328. I think I'm even in a different Area Code - 360. Tell ya what - I'll jump outta an airplane with you one day, but only to soar with my levitative abilities. As for some of 377's neighbors, I met some when I was in town looking for Petey. My kind of people. I was thinking of moving in, actually.

And what will Curtis Eng do? Suppose Bob and Skippy do the above, will Curtis seize the day? Will he make a deal with Bob and Skippy and make them the New Marla? Will Curtis back up the claim from Bobby that Tina says that KC is Cooper? What if Curtis joins with Bob and Skippy and says that he is 99% sure that KC is Cooper, and have Tina stay mum and in the background as everyone speaks for her? Suppose Hollywood gets the green light from the FBI on Bob and Skippy as legit, and they make a Big Movie about KC as the True Story of DB Cooper? Or am I getting ahead of my story? I need a drink. Wish I could afford a bottle of tequila.

Greetings Everyone- I have a general question for anyone who cares to answer. Now that Tina is talking to reporters, such as the guy at the Eugene Weekly, what will Bobby do? Will he go down to Oregon and talk with Tina? Ya know, bring his smile and nice manners, knock on her door and talk about Kenny? What if Bobby then claims that Tina told him that Kenny is definitely DB Cooper? What would we do???? We don't have any way of corroborating that kind of claim since Tina ain't talking to me, Galen, GG, or anybody else I know who could counter-balance ANY claim made by Bobby. This could be the Make It or Break It Time for Bob and Skippy. If they do, we may be on the precipice of the most momentous moment in Norjak history. Edward R Murrow - where are you when we need you??? You Are There.

Whew, you're alive. Thank Gawd. I gather you don't like me very much. Okay. But- How much you do like the Truth? Do you love Truth more than you love to hate me? Just askin'. Bottom Line: What does Tina's claim that she flew NWO routes to Japan mean to your case that KC is DB Cooper?

Update on Bobby and Tina: It's been 7 hours since I asked Bobby what he thought of Tina's claim in the Eugene Weekly that she flew NWO routes to Japan for five years after the skyjacking - and no comment back from Prince Bobby. (I'm putting him in the Court of Cooper Royalty.) Does anyone else know of a seven-hour gap in responses from Bobby? Should I call 9-11 and report a Missing Person? Or should I just call Investigation Discovery.com and get him on TV that way? Let me know what y'all think I should do. Don't want to over-react, ya know. Just saying'. Update II, 11 pm It's now 9 hours and still no response from Bobby. Hmmm...maybe I should call his mother? Nah, it's too late. I'll do that tomorrow if he doesn't post by noon Saturday, PT.

How about you, Mrs. Cooper? What do you think of Tina's story in the Eugene Weekly saying that she flew NWO routes to Japan for five years after the skyjacking?

I just got a PM from a fellow named John who says that his history teacher is telling them about DB Cooper and has recommended that they check out the DZ and the Shutter site! GO Teach!! Now, that's history teaching.

Yo Bobby, What do you think about Tina saying that she flew NWO routes to Japan for five years after the skyjacking?

I have said one thing from the start of the investigation into Kenny. Some people laughed it off, and that's fine, but I still believe it is true: That if Christiansen was Cooper, you aren't going to discover the truth on that strictly through documents, pictures, a house sale, or even a suspicious cash loan. You will find out by the testimony of witnesses, testimony that can be verified enough to interest the FBI in actually checking him out. My intention with Mr Kenny and Mr Bernie is pretty damn simple. It is NOT to somehow twist facts to 'prove' they were involved in the Cooper hijacking. It is to discover the truth on whether they were or not. It's a real easy concept. This is why I finally decided to cooperate with the Geestman family, because it's a big family and I think the truth will eventually come out. It's pretty hard to keep such a big secret forever in families. Members of Geestman's extended family told me in their first interview that they had no clue Bernie was even suspected of being involved until they saw him on History Channel. He didn't even bother to tell them he was going to be on TV. After that happened, they started surreptitiously following everything Kenny-related. The book, reruns of the show, articles, even Dropzone posts. (Some of them admitted they lurk here, but will never post, so they are seeing this now) Then they got hold of me by phone. We talked a few times, then I did my first interview with them. At that time, I provided them with the newest, and most accurate report on all witness testimony and the available evidence. It is much more detailed, and frankly...much more accurate than the original. We spent a couple of hours at the restaurant going over it page by page, and then I let them take copies home. I told them this: "Either those two are guilty as hell, or its the biggest set of coincidences in history..." So....If you had a chance to talk to Tina M (yes, that one) or Bill Mitchell (if you could find him) would you do the following? Here is the scenario that comes to mind when I read your post above (edited). Contact Tina.....or Bill, by phone, letter or email..... Introduce yourself as an investigator into the Cooper hi-jacking as you believe Kenny is the guy. Send a packet with all the information about KC. Why you think he did it and let them study it until they are ready to take a look at the photographs you want to show them. From you previous posts on DZ this is the procedure you used when contacting Bill Mitchell (the wrong one) in Eugene, OR. You set up a meeting, an interview as you call it. Tell them how mean everyone at Dropzone is. That all you seek is the truth. Why can't anyone give you a break.....At this meeting you intend to show them the photos, but as you do it you regurgitate your 25 reasons why you and Skipp believe KC is the guy. Then show the first photograph. As you do, you say, "and this photograph was shown in Decoded and it matches the sketch with a high percentage. Watch what happens when I put the composite on plastic and put it over Kenny's picture? See.....it has to be him. The FBI is so cracked that they can't see this! " Then...do or die time. You plop all the photos out in front of the witnesses. You categorize each photo and tell the story of each scene. This is Kenny when......yada yada yada...You conveniently forget to tell them his height because you do not want Kenny ruled out on something so trivial. Then Tina...(or Bill), take a look at the photograph and say....Well, he does resemble the sketch. Maybe?" BAM.....It has to be Kenny because the witnesses did not say NO! Giving a interviewed person information about specifics surrounding the event that was not previously known, similar to the scenario above, is a type of Confirmation Bias used in interviewing. The quote blow, as taken from the research study of: Skill in Interviewing Reduces Confirmation Bias MARTINE B. POWELL*, CAROLYN H. HUGHES-SCHOLES and STEFANIE J. SHARMAN School of Psychology, Deakin University, 221 Burwood Highway, Burwood, Victoria, Australia In addition.....Geestman's extended family are not "witnesses"......however, Tina M and Bill Mitchell are. There is a huge difference. EVick, you're gonna be one kick-ass detective. So that's what they teach ya in LE skool, eh? Cool stuff.

Kind of like Duane, eh? Hard to imagine that either one of them could threaten to blow up a plane and kill 43 people.

Do you trust Skippy? Why?

Update on Lyle Christiansen Some thoughts on Lyle's behavior, most notably his effort to promote his brother as DB Cooper and get a film made of it, and his recanting of that effort on a talk radio show: If TRUTH is the first casualty of war, it also wilts quickly in the scorching face of ambition, fame or glory. Some people kill for it, some just lie. The rest of us just read about it on the DZ. Or Mountain News-WA!

Yup, that's why I'm looking into Skippy. Do you think Skippy is trustworthy? I have strong doubts. It comes to the issue of trust. Skippy is in the middle of a major credibility crisis in Cooper World and says he's too debilitated to discuss the issues in full. Yet he rides bikes, drinks booze as he posts on Facebook, and lifts weights. Yup, especially when they write books about Jesus, rant on 500 talk radio shows about ultra fundamental Christianity, and write a book on DB Cooper that is the basis of a History Channel episode. Those guys are ALWAYS at the top of my list for putting their tootsies to the edge of the fire. How would you characterize your road with Marla? High. Middler. Low. What do you think she would say? Okay, whom would YOU suggest the FBI should have talked to? The crew and operational people weren't sufficient? Along those lines, what do you think of Tina's recent claim that she flew NWO routes to the Orient for five years after the skyjacking? Skippy chose not to answer that question. Perhaps you would grace us with yours. Yup, that's what Lyle's doing these days. He sends me the same type of stuff. But yes, he did recant his story on radio. Clearly, the man speaks out of both sides of his mouth. By the way, has Lyle asked you and Skippy to use your Hollywood contacts to help make that Cute Young Thing in his hometown a Big Star? Lyle emails me and said she would be the Next Big Thing. Just askin'.

I believe you, Bobby, but how come you trust a guy who says his medical condition is too severe to talk to a reporter on the phone, answer questions by email, or post here. Yet, he is able to ride a bike and lift weights? Drink vodka in his OJ as he types emails to his friends on Facebook? Make stupid claims like the FBI is remiss in not talking to "all" of the employees at NWO, in an effort to discover some kind of link to a suspect that only surfaced 30-odd years after the skyjacking, and only came to light when the brother got a bug up his ass and then later recanted on a talk radio show? That guy you trust? How come? Oh, right, he's a business partner, whom you've never met. Makes perfect sense to me. Anyone else?

Update on Skippy and his Investigation of Kenny C I'm still interested in Skippy's health and his steadfast belief that Kenny C is DB Cooper. Also, the many claims about Skippy - that he either said this to Galen or that to Bobby B, or can't speak for himself and is too ill to explain his beliefs about KC, also have my full attention. A few posts ago, Bobby said that Skippy spilled a cup of coffee on his keyboard while he was addressing these issues, and it took hours for him to complete the task. On his Facebook page, Skipp offers the following explanations: Skipp Porteous August 7 i spilled orange juice on my macbook. i'm getting a new computer this weekend. sorry i haven't been in touch. LikeLike · · Share 11 people like this. View 2 more comments Marg Oops. August 7 at 1:22pm · Like · 1 Mary You had people worried about you. Glad your getting a new computer. August 7 at 7:21pm · Like · 1 Skipp Porteous tell the truth, there wasn't pure orange juice, there was a little vodka in it. August 8 at 12:30pm · Like · 4 David makes sense August 8 at 12:33pm · Like · 1 Skippy has more than just a neurological disorder impeding his communication abilities, as he posted on his Facebook page: Skipp Porteous July 12 · Edited first of all, i don't use capital letters in this post because you think was i shouting. but i'm using lowers case because it's easier because of my bike accident. you see i had broken my wrist. my entire arm is an a cast and i smashed my g... See More But Skipp seems to be engaging his rehab: More posts from May 14 to 16 Skipp Porteous May 14 · Edited The trouble with lifting weights is they're so damned heavy. 102LikeLike · · Share

How so, Mark-Seventy-Four?

An index would be a great help also. My book has an Index!