JerryThomas

377: Excelent Idea but I'm not sure risking Snow's life is worth it. I don't have as much faith in his abilities as you do. Remember I'm also experienced in Rock climbing High altitude climbing and Glacier travel and rescue as will as assault climbers course I was even an Instructeor in these fields. In Alaska. So forgive me if I have my doubts. Jerry

Farflung are you sure your a Monkey and not a look alike. You've been making some good intelegent post's lately. Shame on you actually another good point and will made. The area in which Cooper chose to jump is very hard to travel through unless its down a stream and its full of cliffs. Ask Geof Gray he's talked to the locals and has seen the conditions first hand.. Jerry

Cooperscooper the jump has not been duplicated. If it had it would have been done by a person with little experience and out of the same aircraft at the same time of day under the same conditions over the same area at the same time of year and all weather conditions. Those that has atempted the jump since were experienced jumpers and did not have money bags or wear low quarters and a suite.Nor was it raining.If you yourself do not have jump experience let me hook you up with the same conditions and you jump out of a airliner over that area in Nov. and see if you survive. Jerry

Vicki How are you doing. You did remember to eat today right. Jerry

Back then and in that area it could have been hours in a lot of cases days before it was reported. Besides there were cars reported as stolen in that area at that time. It would have been anyones guess as to which stolen car would have been Cooper or even on what hour or Day. Jerry

This point of yours is exactly why I do not believe he was SF had he of been he would have made better choice's of how and when he jumped.His disguise would have been a great deal different. His execution of this crime would have been closser to that of McCoys. I fogot out of the 4 chutes he was given only 3 would open the 4th was marked with a X whitch meant it was not operational all military personel Knew this because all items in the military supply system that was considered in not working condition was marked with a X. Cooper choose one of the chutes that had the X on it. Jerry

Afrodohgts:Sure there are those that believe he had his escape thought out I do not. If he had a good plan he would have been dressed far better than he was he also would have picked a better time of year and day. The only plan this man had was to attempt to survive the jump and hang on to the money. Remember he was shocked that he got the money he requested and of course there was the chosen chutes he used the only one that he choose out of the 4 that would have opened had been modified and was not user friendly it required a knowledge of how to open it quickly that only the owner Knew.Then the added weight of the money would have thrown him into a spin that only experience Jumpers could have controlled.Along with the fact that he lost his shoes his bearing depth perception even his position direction while falling. Just to mention a few. This mans choice of chutes was not that of a experienced Jumper.Yet there are those that believe that he landed in a bowl of marshmellows and was escorted to freedom. Still there are no new clue's that has apeared since Brian found the money. Except maybe one.Sorry Farflung it wasn't the matchbook.I think transportation was not part of his plan. And why should it have been he was a thief he could steal a car very easily back then remember cars were easy to steal they didn't have any of the theft protection we have today you could open a car door very quickly open the hood run a wire from the positive post of the battery to the coil cross the starter sylinoid and the car would start this was common knowledge back then. Thats what most people would do when they lost the keys to there cars.It took a lot less planning for a robbery than it does today all it took by then was a will to get away with it and in his case no fear of heights would have been a plus Jerry

Farflung: What do you sugest we do to combat this growing concern for our tooting society.Great post!! Jerry

377: I believe Tom Kaye did a investigation on this subject. Geoger would Know more about the results I think they worked on it together. I do know there is a pack of bills in the little washougal and the washougal with ruber bands holding them together.Just waiting for someone to find them. Jerry

AncestralManor. Tina is not at the heart of the investigation for identification confirmation. And the composite drawing now being used and the only one being used is the first one put together imidiately after the hyjacking by all 4 stewardeses.not the one Jo uses as a avatar.Ths is Info directly from Curtis Ng at 1630 hrs last thursday.Seattle Office FBI.I discussed this with him after receiving a phone call from him last thursday 11 Aug . Jerry

Afrdohgts: How did Cooper get to portland. No one realy knows. Some think it was a conecting flight others believe it was by Taxi some believe he Hitchhiked others believe he was droped off by a friend. My personal belief is it is anyones guess.Brian Ingram is the only one that has found any money related to the crime. How it got there is a matter of opinion. I have mine and of course friends of mine like Geoger , 377,ect: have there Idea's I believe that nothing but death would have seperated Cooper from his money any one that desperate would Die to maintain contact with the money. Its proven history of all Thiefs when this risks are death. Still others have different beliefs for diferent reasons. The flight path that was published was not the actual flight path the the aircraft had taken. Here again it depends on who you wish to believe. The placard location realy has very little bearing on the jump location. How the money got to the columbia river is a matter of debate.I supose that there might be some people that believe a wind tunnel picked it up from where it originally landed and then droped it in the columbia river. Or maybe it landed on a train then fell off near the Columbia river. There again a Eagle could have picked it up with thoughts of using it for a nest and droped it there. Personally I believe that it came down the Washougal watershed to the Columbia as suggested by the ARMY Corps of Egineers. As to who Cooper was I believe he was a desperate man with a history as a criminal. I believe he died the night he jumped. I believe the perfect suspect is that of a male that has not been seen or heard from since the night of the hyjacking.Which does give creedence to Vicki's suspect. Jerry

Jo I don't care about your limits aparently you have none to begin with. Just look how your story has grown over the years. Orange one I do agree with you on Vicki's Father. Yes a body is harder to find than that of larger objects especially in the area he is thought to have landed. I relayed this story once before . A friend of mine By the name of Johnson found a skull back in the 80's it belonged to a man that had crashed there back in the 30's. I've found many strange things out there dating back to the late 1800's .Blevins I'm glad you were able to hook up with Geof He's a Good friend I talked to him yesterday and told him a couple of people from the forum might drop in on him . Did Susan Gilmore from the Seattle Times show up she said she might.Did Bruce Smith make it. Glad your conversation was productive. Jerry

Jo read your past post on how you read geofs book on what was said about my daughter. Funny no one else read it to be that way so once again you lied. The stories you make up and continue to make up is just showing your true collors I'm not the only one that knows your storie's are BS the rest of america has come to the same conclusion. Still now your picking apart what Geof wrote about you. I for one don't care what he wrote about you because any account you have of Duane being Coopeer is made up. As for your statement about not taking a polygraph then prove it and take one or are you going to lie your way out of taking one again.Back too you running people down . Arn't you out of breath yet. Or is that statement goig to put you in the hospital also. Your full of a lot of hate for yourself because you have been caught up in so many lies and you don't no how to turn it around. Still your looking for that 15 minutes of fame which you have lied your way into. Now its time to prove your storie's . The FBI says that Duane wasn't Cooper. And proved it . So your stories about seeing the money in the car seeing him hide it is also a lie . What part of the word lie is it you do not understand is it the spelling or the meaning.By the way what is your last name now . Haven't you been married since Duane died. Isn't there any other claim to fame you can move onto Like you and Duane's relation's with the MOB Jerry

377: Jo does have influence on a lot,( So she thinks). Your correct , There Is one person that believes her story. That is the master of her Dream's. On the other hand she fears any Polygraph and the fact that her lies could be interpretated as fraud .Still she thinks tis could be a good thing. Her reason! is attention. Jerry

Blevins Wrong answer this last quest by another cooper want abee did cause even your bs to be checked out. Still how do you explain that not even the first criteriea for yor candidate could be passed for instance The look alike contest or even the where abouts at the time of the crime or better yet The lies you told involving this case, Still You were told by me even before you published your book that you were rong and that even the worst candidate for this crime was a better one than yours . Sorry hero Your candidate has been eliminated by the FBI. Acording to them Otherwise Post the results saying that the DNA or Finger Prints was Your candidatre . We Both no The FBI cant prove that your candidate was cooper and will not because they no it is not him and there test results proved it just like webers. Jerry

Blevins. Why do you continue to Bless us with your BS and your book This I do not understand after being told by the FBI that your candidate was not Cooper. They used all there resorces as they did for Duane weber an tested all evidence DNA And finger prints to include Composite drawings and proved that yours and Jo webers/ many other Maried names. Was not Cooper, So Why do you continue to give this forum your un educated knowledge. Or is it you are trying to win the best fiction writer award from Jo Weber, You do realize that that is one record you will never be able to beat, Unless you win it for the only published fiction writer. Is that your Goal. Jerry

Sorry No I wish I was. Just a few things Has Happened in the past month that has made me realize the importance of all familly member's. Daughter's Sons and our responsibility to all living beings (Human) This is honestly the best way I can Explain It Jerry

Pat71: Are you saying you Know this because of experience. You must only a person with personal experience would make such comments.You No what I Don't think I will not Go away I Have been a major part of this case for over 25. Jerry

Blevins: Thought you would like to know that I talked to Curtis Last night in reference to your candidate for cooper. How Could you embarass yourself as you did by writing and publishing your book after being given the info Others had given you. On him. Why go off on Geoger. You do not have the right or the education or experience to include in my opinion the Knowledge to do so. This Man is out of your leage. Jerry

Jo . Its clear Ill have to read the book. I'm Sure that whatever was refered to as my Daughter should have been Deanna that is her name. Still as we all no and I have posted in the past when she was in the hospital on life support that she did have a drug problem. Still Does! I do have 2 Kids out of 4 that are doing great. One make's over 150,000 a year and my daughter at 30 makes 90,000 a year not much for some parents to be prowd of but for me I'm estatic. Sure i may not be prowd of all my kid's However I do love them and will do all I can to make sure that they do receive the best help that I can even if others do not agree with me. If my Kids do good they deserve the praise if the break the law they must pay there debt to society if they lie they have no buisness talking to me untill they correct that lie. As for Money I asure you that is the least of my wories. Hell You are Blevins couldn't make enough in a year together off the sale of any book or books. to even pay my bills for 3 months or any one else's on this forum for that mater so why the reference to ($) strange. Jerry

Geoger your info on Diatoms and mine differ greatly. Jerry

Evillejmper: So you didn't like Geof's book what is it that you think he could have done better. I have not read the book as of yet however I just got off the phone with Geof Gray a couple of minutes ago. He said he tried to be as honest as he could with everything he wrote and was sorry you didn't enjoy the book. I was curious as to what he had written that was o un flaterring in reference to me. Maybe you can tell me Jerry

Once again Jo you need to invest in a polygraph machine and operator.Permanetly employ one.

Farflung; don't you remember the song called the monkey who ran for president. I believe it was written in the 60's. I ask Shelly she has a copy of it some where.My Point Being why don't you run for president. Jerry

Thats another one of your lies Jo. Jerry