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    Got a mouse in your pocket jcd? Listen, here's an exercise for you. It may be an eye opener. Show us the law which makes you liable to pay income tax. That should be easy enough. Or have you been paying tax you aren't liable for? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    *** The thing about bailouts is that even if they do payback every penny plus interest, the American people lose out due to the inflationary effect of printing all the dollars used for the bailout. Sort of a hidden tax. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    I've not heard of anyone being denied their SocSec payments, and I believe the system is solvent for some 30+ years even if no changes are made. _________________________________________________ Yes Marks, some believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy as well. The thing with Social Security is that the money isn't put into a *locked box*. It's been put into and spent along with the rest of the general fund. Thus its solvency is dependant on future taxes being collected or borrowing to occur sufficient to make todays and future payments. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    America wasn't set up as a democracy but rather as a constitutional republic. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    I think you may be too generous. While Belize can be a tax haven for American ex-pats (along with other cool things), I've been thinking more along the line of the a state that truly has *really* low taxes because the infractructure is so degraded - Somalia. Self-interest is paramount. ________________________________________________ Ya' know Marg, I've noticed you do a good bit of research. I wonder if you could find out for us just exactly what portion of income tax collected actually goes to running the country and how much goes to paying interest on the debt.. You may find the info to be astounding. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Where it conflicts with the rest of the Constitution, up to and including Amendment XV, Amendment XVI supersedes the other parts. If it conflicts with with Amendments XVII (inclusive) or later, the newer amendments supersede Amendment XVI. _________________________________________________ OK jcd, I see you need a bit of enlightenment here. I'll be glad to share . The Bill of Rights (the first ten ammendments to the constitution) ennumerates some of the rights inherent to all people. It doesn't bestow these rights ,it simply lists out some of our rights and in so doing puts goverment *on notice*, if you will. Considering the 5th ammendments clause concerning private property the 16th is null and void . In simpler terms, no ammendment can "supercede" the first ten. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Adam, you still have all of your rights. If you are expecting the government to protect them for you well than good luck. It's up to you to protect and exercise your rights. If you believe that the income tax is a violation of your rights don't pay it. Infact as a patriot it would be your duty to not pay it. Yes there may be consequences but freedom isn't free. Stick up for yourself and stick out your neck. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    All of them, since the federal government was created by the Constitution. I can't find any reference to the US government levying a poll tax. Can you jcd? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    And which of these were levied by the federal government after the Constitution was ratified? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Bill, do you have any idea as to how our common defense was paid for before the income tax? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Lawrocket, in light of your reply and considering the Bush Clinton administrations' "special renditioning "programs, would you support the kidnapping of CIA agents and American government officials? Blues, Cliff Fixed that for you - PDD 39, signed by President Clinton in 1995 (see link above), was the start of the extraordinary rendition program. Instances prior to that seemed to have been handled on a case-by-case basis. Also, if you think that type of thing doesn't already happen (in regards to kidnapping of American gov't officials, agents and citizens), then you're living in a fool's paradise. So do you support it? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Lawrocket, in light of your reply and considering the Bush administrations' "special renditioning "programs, would you support the kidnapping of CIA agents and American government officials? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Once again, the money the Federal Reserve trades the US government for t-bills is created out of thin air. I'm not sure how much you understand fractional reserve banking systems, Bill, do you realize the money for your own home mortgage didn't exist until you signed the loan agreement? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Thanks for reenforcing my point. The Federal Reserve Bank is a for profit "private" corporation and they are the chief creditor to the USA. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Oh No,No,No. While they do sell treasury bills and government bonds to raise money, the majority of the money lent to the US government by the Federal Reserve Bank is created out of thin air. A simple keyboard stroke and the Fed creates money. Basicly they * monetize* an I.O.U. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Mostly it's borrowed , thus the interest payments. Do you know where the Federal Reserve gets the money to lend the US? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Let's see Dan, do you know that not one dollar of income tax collected goes to running the country? Yes, unbelievably that is true! Every dollar of income tax collected by the IRS goes to pay interest to the Federal Reserve Bank, a private ,for profit banking firm. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Yeah, that's it. Wendy W. Well how much should we have to pay to live in a dictatorship? I don't know if you read the news today but according to the memos that's what we've been under since late 2001. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    What can I say Chuck. You and Amazon are persuasive in your arguments and brought me around to your line of thinking on this matter. Thanks for the enlightenment. Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings for you and yours, Cliff White 2muchTruth
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    Ok then, Thanks for the heads up And really,... look at the video! That cop should be pumelled by his peers! Blues , Cliff Good Night 2muchTruth
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    C'mon bluerosie, tell the truth now! You read every one of my posts on this thread didn't you? You're kinda infatuated with me ,aren't cha? Blues, Cliff Sorry , Damn, you saw right through me! I find you unbelievably irresistable with that razor sharp intellect and ability to see beyond mere facts. Please tell me I have a chance with you! Well Doll in your pic you looked a bit jaundiced by I kinda like that sly grin. Yes , there is always hope. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    C'mon bluerosie, tell the truth now! You read every one of my posts on this thread didn't you? You're kinda infatuated with me ,aren't cha? Blues, Cliff Sorry , 2muchTruth
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    I dont want him lynched..... I want him fired.. anyone who could support his actions in the video.. is in serious need of some anger management.*** How about if we just place him on paid administrative leave until all the facts are in? Does that work for you? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Quote But not to worry, rightpundits is making excuses for Deputy Schene just as you are...gee imagine that. I'm not "making excuses" for anyone, Amazon. I simply believe we should have a fair trial before any talk of lynching. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth
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    Believe it or not, there are police officers out there like the one in the video *** Uh oh! What do you mean by that? Officers in uniform? Is that what you were implying? Officers who work inside jails? So masterrig, first you say let's wait and see but your comments suggest that you have prejudged. I hope I never find myself as a defendant where you sit on the jury. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth