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I agree that there is no "right" to healthcare. At the same time I don't see any constitutional provision allowing the government to regulate which drugs I as a sovereign citizen can have access to. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

/reply] then don't run from them and they won't shoot. That's not always true. It may be " against the law " but in most jurisdictions it is a misdemeanor not a capital crime punishable by the death penalty. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

They are FLEEING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At that point whehter or not they did something else wrong they broke the law by FLEEING and that are not just suspected of FLEEING. *** Maybe they are and maybe they aren't. Could be that they happen to be in proximity of a crime and are innocently going about their daily business. In any case I don't recal running from the cops as being a capital crime and certainly I don't trust some near minumum wage civil servant recently returned from Iraq to be judge ,jury, and executioner acting on what little information he may have recieved over a staticky radio from dispatch. YOMV Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Fleeing "suspected" felons Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Yeah, well you are right about enforcement. Cheney and Rumsfeld and countless CIA agents should be in jail for torture but the laws aren't enforced. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

QuoteThe real problem is what laws we have are not enforced. If you want to drink fine but don't get in a car and hit someone else or you should be punished....not have 5 previous DUI's and no insurance and hit my car and take 2 years to get my money from you and you still have a legal license and car? reply] Why bring drinking into this? The charge should be wrecking. I don't care if the wreck was caused by a texter, a make up applier, someone who is reading while driving..etc. Wrecking is the offense imo. As for a drunk driver vs. a sober driver who wreck, I'd support giving the drunk his license back first. He can sober up. The sober driver just doesn't drive well. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

[reply My parents have smoked for 30 years. Should they be covered? If they've smoked for 30 years they've probably payed an awful lot of cigarette tax. Yes , they should be covered, Blues, Cliff[ 2muchTruth

Yes, the Constitution is one source of Americans' rights, but it is only one source out of many. Uhm , The Constitution merely affirms some of our rights ,Andy. It is not the "source" of them. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Ron, you are almost with me. You're just one god away from being an atheist. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

_________________________________________________ So B.Dasche, can you name any brown people who caused the crisis? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Rhys, leave the conspiracy theorists alone. As you and I know you can research and accept the truth or you can believe the governments' version of events. Either way it's still a conspiracy theory. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

So does this mean that the MIAC considers Ron Paul and Bob Barr to be terrorist leaders/organizers? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

[ WTF? Should I now expect to be visited by the "anti-terrorist" nut jobs __________________________________________________ Paul, to whom are you refering when you say "anti-terrorist" nut jobs? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

to carry on any given day; it's simply his right to do so. ------------------------------------------------------------- Andy, do you believe that it is a persons' right to carry concealed fire arms without the governments' permision slip? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

The mentality of needing to have "bad guys" is probably what started the "war on drugs". After the fall of communism, there weren't any "bad guys", so the Reagans started the "war on drugs". _________________________________________________ Leading to the CIA importing drugs to the USA (Iran Contra) At least we got to jump one of their C-130s at Quincy Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

And he should get an A . Spacially speaking, depending on the perspective the world is flat. Flat as a piece of paper . Of course if you zoom in under a microscope the paper isn't flat. I don't think that any true scientist can reasonably or credibly speak in absolutes. YOMV Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Fiat money is completely artificial; it is made of something less valuable (like paper) and cannot be exchanged directly for a like quantity of a valuable material. I think it's important to point out that "fiat money" is made legal tender by governmental "decree" or "fiat". One example is the Federal Reserve Notes used in America today. You'll notice the type which states"this note is legal tender for all debts public and private". Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

What if we based it on other commodities? I could make an argument that a barrel of oil is a unit of "currency" in international exchange. Yes. For a time after WWII, in Germany ,cigarettes were used as a "commodity currency". Blues , Cliff 2muchTruth

________________________________________________ Stop,ha ha, I can't breathe! I bet Letterman is sweatin puddles. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

__________________________________________________ Are they "losing value" or was their "value" an illusion all along? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

I'm of the opinion that if the banks are going to take money from the government via a bailout...then they need to be ready to follow the government's rules. __________________________________________________ Here is something of which not too many may be aware. The fact is that the government is borrowing money from the Federal Reserve Bank to bailout banks which are shareholders of the Federal Reserve Bank. Kind of circular isn't it? Also much of the funding to AIG is being used to prop up european banks at the expense of Americans. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Interesting that we are discussing whether or not setting these rules is the proper role of government. I'd suggest that bailing out private corporations in itself is an improper role of government. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Try lookinghere. You're kidding yourself if you think people are not legally obligated to pay taxes in the US, including income tax. Don't believe all of those tin-foil hatter websites. __________________________________________________ Good . You've linked us to the tax code. Now show us where you or I are liable for income tax. I'll bet you can't do it. Blues, Cliff Dude, I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate the income tax, but the Sixteenth Amendment states: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration." _________________________________________________ Great . The ammendment supports it but can you show me any section of the tax code that holds you personally liable for any income tax? Can you show us the law? Here is a link where the tax commisioner is asked that question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu0iSxAKxT0 Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Try lookinghere. You're kidding yourself if you think people are not legally obligated to pay taxes in the US, including income tax. Don't believe all of those tin-foil hatter websites. __________________________________________________ Good . You've linked us to the tax code. Now show us where you or I are liable for income tax. I'll bet you can't do it. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Is it time? Are you pissed enough yet? How much will you take before you are ready to ride the politicians and the bankers out on a rail? What is your breaking point? Does anybody have good blueprints for a guillotine? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth