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Does anyone else get this? Randomly i will either get a single drop of condensation that will just sit and wobble about in the middle of the back of the Royal Lens or, as yesterday, multiple small drops (like about a dozen) that just sit there and sort of get pulled about depending on my body position. Does anyone else with a low profile/Royal lens get this at all? Is there any way to prevent what i think must be the condensation building up between the air that gets trapped inside the lens and the air outside? I don't use a camera condom but even so, would that help prevent condensation build up in the lens area? Any help and tips would be greatly appreciated. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

Sounds interesting - so the first person out goes head down with you holding on to their ankles, pulls you out and you subsequently pull out the person holding on to you? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

LOL, not quite along the lines i was looking for. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

But if you think religious people are the problem (and i understand the distinction) then, going back up the path, if we only had 2 options - namely, one religion and science - then even very religious people would not be such an issue, because they would all want the same thing, right? (if we assume they would not want to attack the scientific community for not adhering to the values of their religion etc, and just peacefully coexisted with those of us who do not believe in religion etc. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

or is this a vastly simplistic way of looking at things? I for one think if we would be a lot more close as a species if we were all singing from the same hymn sheet, if you pardon the pun, or rather, no hymn sheet at all. I know religion gives many people a sense of belonging and community etc so would one universal religion bring all those who were of not scientific mind an added closeness? Totally hypothetical i know but any thoughts? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

I'm not referring to any particualr discipline here, just talking pure unadulterated fun and games at exit time! Tubes are fun, leg locks are cool, but i'm looking for something different. Last time we were at the dropzone, my friend held one leg as i fell off the plane and then grabbed the other and we flew like that for a little while before getting into the dive which was fun (see pics). Anyone got fun little exits you can try with just you and a friend? Looking for some inspiration

Married a whuffo and i love her to pieces. She is very supportive though and realises the importance of time apart and doing our own thing. The worst aspect is she worries about me when i'm jumping but that's understandable. To be honest, i think it would be boring if i talked about jumping when i was off the drop zone with my SO, i like the fact we talk about other stuff, and my jumping is separate, but then everyone is different. Besides she takes an interest in it enough to watch videos and ask questions - what more can i ask for really? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

nude shots? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

All BB is about is speaking up about a jumper's habits. It also can have the benefit of offering a warning to other skydivers that a jumper amongst them may pose a danger to others and/or themselves. Is it sick and morbid? Yes. But that does not make it bad. It adds to the shock value, which is exactly the point. The game is a way for jumpers to collectively say, "Dude, you're not ten feet tall and bullet proof. If you keep acting like it, you're gonna die, or worse yet, take someone else out. Stop it." I think i have a much better understanding of the game now and can see it does serve a good purpose as long as someone is willing to listen and take on board those betting on them and find out why. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

True. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

You're missing the point. I don't care about it being sick and twisted - i can see how it can actually be a useful learning tool to those prepared to learn from being on the list. I like the idea if its on a big board up in the packing area. If however, that person flagrantly continues with endangering other people through selfish actions, i'd rather they weren't near me and that my DZO booted them, and then picked up the phone and let other local DZ's know the situation which is a not unheard of turn of events. If you are passed the point of trying to teach someone something they are not prepared to learn, then it's about damage limitation to themselves and to others. Maybe that's just me though. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

How do you equate what i have said with doing something to let someone i know die rather than speak up? If anyone - friends or otherwise - are doing something i consider unsafe to themselves or myself, i speak up. I've already lost friends and, and i'm not afraid to be looked at condescendinly or like i'm an idiot just for speaking up on something. How does playing bounce bingo assist with saving lives if you allow someone to be in the sky who is considered unsafe to either themselves or someone else? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

You think grounding is for children and ineffective, yet you would "ground his ass until he learns to be a real skydiver"? That makes no sense to me. Grounding is not just about trying to forcibly teach someone to be safer - of course it depends on whether that person wants to learn to be safer in the first place. It's about removing them from your and my, any everyone elses air space as they might pose a danger to someone other than themselves, which many skydivers are too selfish to understand and/or care about. They either address what needs to be done to make operations safe or they leave, which, while maybe not teaching them anything (and some people will not want to learn) but at least keeps the rest of us safe. Too many people have a selfish view of skydiving, that they can do what they want, it's their life...well to an extent that's true, but all of us can do without someone like that being around us while we try and practice the sport safely. People doing things they consider within their skills level and they think they are doing safely have killed other skydivers. Skydiving being politically correct is neither here nor there. It's about safety to me and, while i agree, grounding might not make someone safer, it at least means they aren't on your and my load, possibly doing something to endanger others, keeping others safer at the very least. I'm all for bounce bingo if you have a big board up and it's totally open and transparent to all that you are on there - this encourages learning and encourages those people to get themselves off the list. I'm just not into it when it's less about trying to stop someone hurting themselves or others, and more about "he won't listen, oh well, let's at least make some money out of this and have some fun". If it gets to that point, the guy should not have the privledge to jump there. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

The problem is he didn't come here seeking a second opinion - he wanted clarification on legal ramifications to see if he had grounds to threaten with legal action if he wasn't removed from the list. How is that learning to be a safer skydiver? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

How is that working in this case? The jumper just wants off the list and doesn't seem overly concerned about meeting any "peer pressure" reasons for being on there initally. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

Congrats mate, now all we need is the tunnel to open already "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

Ok my thoughts on this game and list and it's usefulness aside, why are you on the list? Have you found out the specific reason(s)? From your post, you seem to either be pissing people off by kiting, or it had something to do with a lack of communication on heading for a tracking dive? It would be useful if you - or whoever put you on the list - could explain why you are there for a start. If you know yourself to be safe, why are you so worried about being on this list? If you doubt something about yourself, i would ask those who put you on immediately why it is you are on there - after all, if you want yourself off, i would imagine they want you to ask so you can learn why you are there and what you are doing that is compromising yours and potentially others, safety. I can see the list is rooted in a particular tradition, but i don't agree with it. If those who are running operations at the dz know someone could go in, or even worse, go in and take someone else potentially with them, they need to be grounded until they are stopped from doing whatever is unsafe and if they don't kicked off the dz and make local dz's aware of the guy and his issue. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

Congrats and you might want to edit your jump numbers in your profile "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

Sound like some pretty fucked up shit right there. I'd be pretty damn embarrased to be part of a DZ that is that morbid. Legal or not, it's lame as hell. Like the other guy said, if you are on the list, it might be a good time to figure out why. seconded "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

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oops good point. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

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http://www.superdairyboy.com/Videos/poweriser/videos.html Anyone seen these in action before? Wouldn't mind giving them a go. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

I think it's a cool idea - i know it was done some time ago, but i really like the idea of a backup device that is right in front of my face. What do you guys think? Anyone have an idea of what those things are going to retail for? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts

I SO don't need to hear that on monday mate, thanks alot! Heading up this weekend? I think we are planning to... "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts