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If you would, Please digest the other side of your statements.I knew we wouldn't agree on much... Day two,no customers,no pay but I still got my Shop The air reminds me of the 70'S

Fun Facts, Last night was in the upper 50's to the low 60's The droughts is over, North facing hill are still green,not seen since El Nino of the 80's & 90's Fuck I'm out Evac.orders.

Ya that's the ticket.. Burden the rate payer some more,then Leave the power off ? is that the plan.. WTF So it is Full STUPID like Germany. The entire system has been neglected for Decades to the benefit of the Executives, Workers and Politicians, all at the expense of the Rate Payers.After the Camp fire its business as usual,But you can't see that. Naw, they'll just shut off the power.More like Anthem.

Thank for the explanation, The Old Fart

00 Morning, Since the fire that was set Last Night by our electric company, is ablaze.My shop and freeway closed.We can both watch how the corrupt Electric companies and media will tout AGW. Enjoy the Show!!!! Ranger Rob is the best,his predictions were correct by mere Hours!! From my shop the super scoopers are fling sorties over head to Lake Castaic. Saddle Back is on the other side of Placerita Nature Center one of the two Parks I hike. What a crying shame. Only one PG&E truck has been shot at so far,driver's ok. Someone needs to call CNN and tell them My shop is closed because the electric companies started another Fire, What a bunch of in incompetent..I'll stop there. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/us/california-fires-friday/index.html

My choice,OK? but at least we agree we'll use more energy in the future. Please don't put the word Hate, in my mouth,tastes bitter. I just think...Wait How ironic LMFAO Micheal Moore the other,over weight, rich, Hypocrite.Was touting the vertue of the Workers Paradise not to many years ago, you know when they had lots of cheap oil .Lovely Venezuela The only {Dark} Bright side,they dont have a rat,cat,stray dog problem of LA. Bad side {really Dark} we all know why. "other than maybe you think that since I live closer to Hollywood" Bill I dont think so, aren't you in SD? Hollywood is 20-30 min. away from me. Hey,when we do ever meet lets agree, conversation of Skydiving and Aviation only.

I think i got it? could you pm me so I dont look like an old fart on the post. not "my words"

You have yet to see the neo-enviormentalist come out of the woods,some little girls are already sacrificing their first born,symbolicly of course. this is from the El Paso Piece of Shit: “The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country,” the El Paso manifesto notes, adding, “Everything I have seen and heard in my short life has led me to believe that the average American isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. … So the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources.” The so-called deep ecology movement, claiming to argue for the intrinsic value of all living things, insists that the flourishing of nonhuman life is impossible without decreasing the human population. Deep ecologists like David Foreman in the 1980s welcomed famine as a means of depopulation; his fellow eco-fascist contemporaries saw a similar boon in the AIDS crisis.

Damn the Flack,its all over them like a swarm of 88mm bees,never though at that altitude,it could be so damn precise or effective.Damn,more respect. Clumsy,? naw, Thought provoking

What an awesome Pic.....Couple years back the City of Taft,CA. Had a Centenial Celebration(?)and had one of the last surviving Mitchells come to the airportI had to take a pass on the opportunity to jump it,the ticket was too steep,and I had kids.. As I looked inside the Bombay,I was amazed and terrified.The unique smell of her,gave me chills,as I thought of All those Fucking snags hazards, everywhere !! As a kid, I romanticized about it all.Then it all came crashin down,in a heartbeat,in that second.That beautiful flying fighting bird, was a cold metal coffin.It turned into something that never emagined. I worked aircraft fuel systems in the Air Force and got into some precarious situations inside the wings,but I had never gotten claustrophobic.There I was,feet on the ground,fresh air flowing and I'm Scared shitless. My depest respect and adoration for your Dad and all his Brothers in Arms. I find you thoughtful and level headed.So Please,dont get pissed or think this is some sort of attack,its not.Just thoughtful possitive criticism. It was Your choose of adjictives, I found Quite interesting.Damn how times change so. While being Historiclly correct.I dont think they apply to our society today.. I was in the Cold War.So if you will....just an exercise. "Me and My Black and Brown Nationalist buddies When to stop the Leftist and their Socialist Totalitarian ways, from pushing thru the Fulda Gap. the reason for my word play is this.. Antfa today, isn't your Dads Antifa, the only thing they have incommon is Name. They represent nothin more than a "bundle of sticks".Antifa represent the same shit,my Grandfather fled Italy from.They stop Jewish and Gay men from speaking becuase they Might be offended.They limit the sope of acceptible thought and speech, they are the Fascists

One of his first stories..It was his first job while in Highschool,a machine Shop, swept in floors for minimum wage.An apprenticeship in Sprinfeild Mass. 1957 I looked it up he was right!!!

Would be Proud ... I live right here in Los Angeles California Adam Shitts District MAGA

I had No Idea, I guess nieve, what some people would do, for a buck. Eat the Rich is it... I dont think we'll agree. Iv'e been waiting for Trumps Tax policy since Reagan. Sorry Bill, I should have looked it up, My Dads dates and prices may be off.I beleive it was during the price wars. But found this !!!! He's still all there!!!! 1967 $1.00 Hour https://stuffnobodycaresabout.com/2014/02/24/gas-price-wars-1967-style/ Bill could you please run the Numbers for me?

I have no fear of a mass extintion.I hike thru nature nearly every day and reval in life. Your the ones running around with hair on fire.Doomsday theorists. You see how you've let your fear run wild, to the point you beleive in such outlandish pridictions. But since I can't deny,I'm in denial. You leave me in quite the Pickle, so I guess We're all fucked. Where do I sign that GND. Unless you know of the Huge meteor hurling thru space that about to hit us.You shouldn't put yourself thru such torturer. This is what your Ideology has produced,a generation that suffers from "Visceral Anxiety" and depression.The resugence of the Mutual Assured Destruction Psychology, Bravo.. "By promising one thing and doing another." What the hell did America promise her? Dont know where you got all those Qotes from... but The EPA was founded by Commonsense Conservative Dick Nixon and that Montreal agreement that banned CFC was signed by Ronnie.As for conservation well... Main article: Presidency of Theodore Roosevelt § Conservation Roosevelt driving through a sequoia tree tunnel Of all Roosevelt's achievements, he was proudest of his work in conservation of natural resources and extending federal protection to land and wildlife.[145]Roosevelt worked closely with Interior Secretary James Rudolph Garfield and Chief of the United States Forest Service Gifford Pinchot to enact a series of conservation programs that often met with resistance from Western members of Congress, such as Charles William Fulton.[146] Nonetheless, Roosevelt established the United States Forest Service, signed into law the creation of five National Parks, and signed the 1906 Antiquities Act, under which he proclaimed 18 new U.S. National Monuments. He also established the first 51 bird reserves, four game preserves, and 150 National Forests. The area of the United States that he placed under public protection totals approximately 230,000,000 acres (930,000 km2).[147] Roosevelt extensively used executive orders on a number of occasions to protect forest and wildlife lands during his tenure as President.[148] By the end of his second term in office, Roosevelt used executive orders to establish 150 million acres of reserved forestry land.[149] Roosevelt was unapologetic about his extensive use of executive orders to protect the environment, despite the perception in Congress that he was encroaching on too many lands.[149] Eventually, Senator Charles Fulton (R-OR) attached an amendment to an agricultural appropriations bill that effectively prevented the president from reserving any further land.[149] Before signing that bill into law, Roosevelt used executive orders to establish an additional 21 forest reserves, waiting until the last minute to sign the bill into law.[150] In total, Roosevelt used executive orders to establish 121 forest reserves in 31 states.[150] Prior to Roosevelt, only one president had issued over 200 executive orders, Grover Cleveland (253). The first 25 presidents issued a total of 1,262 executive orders; Roosevelt issued 1,081.[151]

Nope, its not childish, its logical. You made the riduculous statement. Basic logic doesn't seem to fit your brand.This is the reason Micheal Moore need not debate. Yep. I fill up about once every six months, so that's $90 a year for gas I've been driving about 10K miles a year. What do you pay a year for gas? You got Me...I pay much more than you and I'm sure I earn a third or less than you so.... thanks for making my point.

So is the price for a gallon of gas,in any other State but California of course. My dad payed a quarter a gallon his minimum wage payed $1.00 he got four gallons.Today at $ 2.50 a gallon, the minimum wage earner gets about four gallons.Here in LA the minimum wage earner gets two.So As matter of fact, because of our polocies the Average poor of California gets half as much as the poor of the rest of the country. None here are evil or Communist although Hollywood sure loved Venezuela and their abundant "Natural resourses" you know the typical hypocrites.

Again rediculous, a Volcano!!!,stop digging.We all know what AGW Theory is here. You need not remind me like a child or big brother with wiki link. I spent Days on the realclimate web site dispelling myths.I came out with the sames conclusion as brent.

LOL I knew the ignorant thing was coming sooner or later.You can text. But can't read. You must sleep at night with the sheets over you head. Aint you the guy that calls me a ignorant Trump Voter What part of what I wrote dont you understand? edit HVAC systems in hospitals, nursing homes do not scrub co2.

Taking Tax money from the poor and giving it to the rich. A sort of Reverse Robin Hood,does that make it clearer.A lot of that happens here in the city of angles. This thread is about The GND its about the future of energy in America.Highly Political so... Will you be voting in the US? Because, You haven't dispelled any of my "talking Points", so whats your point? I dont mind being offended, thats political discourse. "Don't think there is much use in discussing science based issues with heavily biased opinions." Science,dude.. the guy just said people get sick from CO2. Are you so bias that you accept that?

So semantics invalides my point?

As more wealthy customers install solar panels to charge their electric vehicles, demand for gasoline and electricity will decline. This is economics 101. As a result, the poor will end up paying less for power and gas. Oh shit Ive got to stop reading this.I'm out to smoke a fatty. In what world do you live in that tells you we will use less energy in the future and the poor will pay less? What is the price for gas in California compared to the rest of the Nation?I just payed $4.49 DOUBLE the national averages. by 2050 we wont be using less energy well be using 300% more. You didnt take, Eco 101

OMG ,Who getting sick from CO2? What a rediculous statement. All your toxicity bullshit comes from OSHA standards, from your State,It s only a measurement for HVAC industies.If indoor air Quality is poor at 1200ppm it means the air is three times a stale as fresh,most Co2 monitors do nothing are shut off or inoperable those that do just turn on a FanThe do not scrub Co2 but you know that. Most Greenhouse workers live in 1200 ppm.. no ones falling asleep dropping dead on the job. and God forbid you were to trajicly fall asleep with the sheets over your head at 40,000 ppm you'd be dead by the morning,by YOUR Standards.

Stop with your outlandish analogies,Please. So you've made a fuel tank... increadable!!! Talk about Cherry picking,Coabalt Again. I'm not here defending Coal,either.. thought that was pretty clear in my post "I seem to hate coal but," I beileve all States have renewable mandates. Today. Right now. Here in Ca.we have the highest. So your doing it. Congrads!!! So What the plan Now? "full on Progessive" 100% renewable? Just go full stupid like Germany? I invite you to Just look around LA and San Fernando, 8 out of 10 homes that do have solar systems have Pools.So if your fortunate enough to own a swimming pool you can buy a Solar system.Now you dont have to pay to power your pool.Just a few bucks more,just Climate Change. Tesla subsidies were the best for those that could afford to take advantage of them, usuallyy the 4th or 5th car in their fleet.They are the one that will save us.Just loved the Idea of taking in money from Juans' Landscape business so the fortunate can enjoy the car pool lane. SCE had 5 scales of payment base on usage the poorest,used the lease, payed less.Now we have 3? I thought months ago Professor Mark Mills put some perspective in this debate? I guess not. SO IT'S ALL IN !!! At any cost?? Binary.Fossile fuel evil. Nenewable good. ALL ENVIROMENTAL ISSUES WERE WORSE !!!! We Agree. nor is the problem catostophic, apocalyptic nor will it contribute to nucular war. What AOC touts is Majical,100% renewable, a pipedream, only the self suffient hardy people of Vermont or Wyoming could suffer through such misery and servive a winter, in this day and age. So that makes us BOTH full of shit, I guess. I LOVE FOSSILE FUELS The ride from 320 ppm to 400 has been glorious,from the ass end of a Mule,to Clean Blue skies @12,5. The poorest of us Americans are 5000 times richer.The Air is cleaner, not inspite of fossile fuels but Because of them,right? The ride from 400ppm to 800 will be even more spectacular, fear not. So I guess in the alarmist eyes that makes me a maleficent shill of the fossile fuel, "industrial complex," or just an immoral deplorable. How about some good news,The Hunting of Crain is back, becuse the population has rebounded so,Polar bears numbers at all time highs.Huge projucts under way to reestablish oyster beds even on staten Island which was once named Oyster Island in water so polluted it couldn't support life now being repopulated. Hell!! just this morning,I saw a four prong buck, 100yds from the 5 freeway,10 miles from the SFV.Five doe and faun last week.The local rangers got video on facebook (Towsley canyon Mountain Recreational Conservitive Athority,sorry no link) of four mountain lion normally solitary eating/hunting togrther on the abundant rabbit population, that's expoloded this year. "I haven't seen as many mammals in my 25 years here,like we've seen it this year." "Get ready for the Santa Anna"s there coming next week."He said. So if any of you say next week,that the wildfires which have always exised,were exasterbated by AGW. Then our ranger will need you, to pay him consumerate to an IPCC deligate.Becuse his pridictions are way better than theirs. I hate wind projects, almost as much as coal,rather see giraffe looking oil dericks slowly moving up and down grazing on the field, than the last sight a frog has befor being dropper in a blender.The other ecological concerns in the Tehacheppi Valley Wind Farm get swept under the rug like the raptors.My concern, that you've only begun to build them at the scale you'd like.Even the Wiamea Valley, of Hawaii.Its indigunous peoples most sacred places, the peacfull valley of the Kings.Was polluted by a turbine..With the swish of 100 mph blades, a beaming white tower of progess always in sight. Nothing like getting back to nature So sad but I guess a win for the weather.

For those that think we should spend millions, billion or Trillions to solve a potential problem in the future with Majical Thinking and the GND. California has much, much bigger problems than climate change,right here and now.For those that think California is so incredable the only thing we need to focus on is renewables come to L.A. and reval at our utopia.