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Fundamentally, you're still being scammed by Jim Watkins, a pig farmer in the Philippines who moved there because of their (ahem) questionable enforcement of various sex crime laws, and who owned 8chan and now 8kun where these "Q drops" arise from. And yes, you Q devotees may still be voters, but that's because there no rules against delusional people voting. I'm glad you finally admit, though, that it's really just a propaganda effort to motivate the gullible and delusional to vote for Trump. After all, if any of the purported accusations were true, don't you think loud mouth Trump would have bragged about it by now to improve his poll numbers? If any of it were true, it would be a massive boost to his polling and the probability of his being re-elected. If any of it were true. Alas, though, it's not. But even Trump realizes he'd have to provide some evidence to back up the outlandish claims, so he's stuck since he has none. But on the plus side from his point of view, so long as the promise of this future Great Awakening keeps getting dangled, you guys all dance on the strings like good little manipulated boys and girls, all the while thinking you're "independent", but you'll vote Trump even if it isn't true. So independent that no matter what evidence is presented to you, you believe the fantasy and will vote Trump regardless. So, mission accomplished from the Trump election camp's perspective. But the ironic part is the puppet thinks he's a free thinker.

Maybe you missed the part where he paid off women that Trump had affairs with to keep them quiet and had to enter into an immunity deal over it. Link 1, Link 2, Link 3. Family values!

I’m actually going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. When you search on Google, Google remembers your searches. So if you search QAnon a lot, it will likely make high on the list of results. If you don’t know how search engines work, you might assume that it’s true for everyone. So, of course you’re right, it’s not, but I could see how someone who doesn’t know how things work might think it is. A better test would be to search on something like DuckDuckGo that doesn’t track your searches or use a search bias. Or maybe in incognito mode depending on the browser.

How are you defining positive? Things that make you feel tingly in your pants? I think agendas that promote human rights, access to affordable healthcare, and affordable (and these days safe) education are a Hell of a lot more positive than any of the bullshit Qcumbers jabber about. You know why? Because the agendas I listed are real, make people better than they were, and are not some make believe revenge fairytale, like Q. Besides, I don’t think a call for what is basically a coup-d’etat coupled with an extrajudicial killings of people you don’t like without any real evidence is “positive” That’s downright evil, actually. So no, not positive at all. Try again to come up with a favorable aspect of it other than “it’s gullible folks for Trump”.

I find it interesting what you chose to bold, Phil. My take away was earlier in his response. “I don’t know much about that movement other than they like me” was the actually important part here. Qcumbers have been dying for a reporter to ask Trump “the question” as they call it; and now that they have, Trump - the supposed leader of the “white hats” - has said he didn’t know much about it. Trump’s support for it has been revealed - it’s not about a secret baby saving movement, it’s about a group that likes him a lot, so he likes them. Somebody play the “sad trombone” sound for Ron. It also reminds me of a joke I heard: A Qultist dies and goes to heaven... Upon meeting Jesus, he asks with glee who Q really was. Jesus takes a deep breath and says, "I've been expecting you to ask, but I'm only going to answer you once and then we move on... Q started as a random bunch of people pranking you online, which then was used by people in power for their own political purposes.... It's OK though, your life still had meaning..." The Qultist starts shaking his head and says, "I can't believe it... The Deep State really does go all the way to the top..."

I love how you always talk about it being “positive” but never talk about it being “truthful” or “accurate”. Of course, that’s because it’s not, but at least now you’re basically being honest with us and acknowledging that Q really just a manipulation campaign to get gullible people to vote for Trump.

In Ron's case, an invisible man issuing vague missives that can always be read to support his preconceived notions is very appealing to him.

... regardless of their truth or accuracy. That's why it's absurd. You engage in no critical thought, no questioning if your 'positive' input might be blowing smoke up your ass. So, you completely miss the point - as usual. Sex trafficking and child abuse exists. It's a bad thing. It should be rooted out and stopped and those engaged in it prosecuted. However, simply by accusing people you don't like of being sex traffickers or cannibals or whatever, that... doesn't make it true that those particular people are engaging in it. Example: I could accuse you of sex trafficking, Ron. We know about your secret violations of the Mann Act. That gang of 13 year old girls you kept in a cage - I heard all about it. You see, a magic elf, code named P, told me about it on PasteBin. Does that mean it's true? I mean, sex trafficking exists, and a weird clown on an anonymous website told me it, without any evidence, so it must be true using your logic - when are you going to turn yourself in? But of course, that's absurd. People living in the real would would expect to see evidence of your crime before they even make the claim. And I have no evidence to give, so people would rightly dismiss my claim. And that's why people reject yours. You so desperately want to believe in the fantasy, though, that you ignore all evidence and logic to the contrary. I find it hard to believe that you're too un-intelligent to understand this, which leads me to the conclusion that you're actually saying a lot of this crap in pure bad faith. Unfortunately, what you're doing is actually hurting the people who are actually working in programs to stop real (not imaginary) sex trafficking. Because if people flood the places with bogus tips about imaginary instances of sex trafficking, or - even worse - if people start to associate the legitimate programs to stop sex trafficking with whackadoodle theories, they might back away from their support from those worthy programs. Conclusion: You don't care about sex trafficking. You want those people you don't like "punished". That's the sum total of your thinking.

Wow. I missed that. This is like recursive idiocy. Or like a Russian nested doll of insanity. A fractal of foolishness. You keep thinking “well, *that’s* the stupidest friggin’ thing I’ve heard all day...” and then you have to go *deeper* and you find a new layer... I mean, I guess if you feel like you’ve lost in life, and the world has moved on without you, maybe you feel a need to be part of the winning side *so badly* that you’re willing to hold onto any thread, no matter how crazy, and accept nonsensical imaginary stories if they make you feel empowered or important or whatever. I suppose that I pity him in that respect.

Damn, son... given how putrid 8kun (and it’s predecessors, 8chan and 4chan) are, that’s... something. BTW, Ron will counter and say “Q drops don’t go to 8chan...”, which is a dodge because they were kicked off of it so one of the lead grifters created 8kun a while back. It’s a semantic dodge, but technically correct.

Related question - why would a purported "military operation" use such a channel as opposed to literally any other channel for dissemination of information? Actual military operations have much better, reliable, and secure systems. Makes no sense. Further related question - why would a secret military operation announce its plans publicly? That's the opposite of OPSEC [sorry, the Qcumbers love love love their military sounding acronyms, I mean "operational security"]. The "bad guys" can read them, too. If the "patriots" were really "in control" (to parrot their thought terminating cliche), why would they need to announce anything until it's literally all done? Makes no sense. Further further related question - if a secret military operation did decide to announce its plans, why would it do so in a cryptic manner? If your goal really was to let "the Patriots" know what the secret plan is - particularly so they can educate others - wouldn't you do so in a more straightforward manner? Makes no sense. Of course, I know the answer to these - because it's a grift that a bunch of gullible folks have swallowed hook, line, and sinker because they like the fantasy, but I'd love for Ron to try to answer these. (Pretty sure he blocked me, though, because I tend to point these out to him and he's yet to come up with a semi-logical answer.)

C’mon, man, that’s not fair - he needs to be told what to think, and nobody told him yet. (Told by a charlatan claiming to be a “secret operative”, who inexplicably posts on a forum known for pranks, porn, and pedophilia, but told, nevertheless....)

Oh! Now I get it! That stands for "We’re With Ghislaine 1 With Ghislaine All".

I love how Ron thinks that "maybe this time, they'll finally see the secret sinister Satan worshipping, baby-eating cult that runs the country from pizza parlors without anyone knowing, and agree that we need to root it out and put an end to it, and only Trump can save us..." I mean, it's like hope springs eternal. Utterly insane hope, but whatevs. I wonder at what point the Energizer Bunny runs out of battery, given all the failed predictions. (Actually, the models predict he'll double down, so I'm waiting with popcorn to see...) It's like someone was trying to make a scale model of: what happens when your worldview is run by pareidolia? Well, here you go! (By the way, a friend of mine is working on her PhD in psychology, with a specific focus on abnormal psychology. She was the one who originally turned me on to Q. It's been a friggin' gold mine for her thesis. Holy cow, man... She had to narrow it down to subsets of subsets of delusion within the Q Movement, because it's more than one - or even five - PhD thesis can handle.)

I have and still do. They're full of nonsense and irrational thinking. It's fascinating to watch, much in the same way as mental illness can be fascinating to watch. It teaches interesting things about the nature of thought and thought processes. That doesn't make it true, though. Don't need to have a high IQ to vote. In fact, for some purposes, it's politically easier to herd the low IQ folks to vote the way you want. They don't question as much or when they do question, they're willing to accept crazy explanations with clones, secret mole children, etc., so long as they support their world view. ... which might be the the real purpose behind the efforts to keep the Q fantasy alive despite all of those missed predictions and zero evidence for it after years and years and years... Maybe it's not really about a stopping a secret cabal of satanic pedo-cannibals - maybe it's just creating a reason for followers to vote Trump even if it doesn't exist. Who can stop us from the imaginary cabal but the man that we imagine has a plan? Better vote for him to be safe, amiright? So, maybe that's the lesson - maybe the real Q movement was the friendships they made along the way...

My absolute favorite part of this whole Q thread is that Ron oh so hard tries, every so often, to keep "Q" on the front page of the SC forum page, but every time he brings it up, it... just doesn't stick. It least not on the topic of Q. It goes everywhere else, but Q gets ignored. I mean, none of us end up going, "Holy cow! well, that's confirmation of a global Satanist pedo cabal of elites that eat children for adrenochrome that should be overthrown by a non-democratically elected body led by Trump! Hot diggity, there's the proofs!" I will be so sad if Ron ever gives up here, because I dig the whole Q fantasy so much. It's like a weird Mexican telenovela that I just can't put down. I mean, you know it's stupid and absurd, and it makes no sense but you just keep wanting to watch to see where the writers take it! Where will they go next? Body doubles? Clones? Mole children? (I mean, that's all been done, but...) Every time you think it gets to peak crazy, they peak again like some weird experiment in conspiracy edging. Even at its best though, lately, it seems to be underperforming. "Obamagate" is a far cry from "Obama and Hillary are already in prison in Gitmo and the people you see are body doubles", as claimed 2+ years ago... I'd say it's a pretty sad state of affairs and Q needs new writers. Maybe add some characters with sex appeal and a comedic sidekick - that works for a lot of shows that are slumping... Good luck with the LARP, Ron. Thoughts and prayers for it to become more interesting.

Wow, how insightful this Q fella must be. He quotes a comment from a reporter (her Tweet was about 30 minutes before that Q drop). One would have thought if he was plugged into the "white hats", he would have known about it before Maria Bartolomo. I mean seriously, do you think the information flow is Trump -> Maria Bartolomo -> Q? But alas, he seems to have no special insight. So, even if this comes true - and we'll see today, won't we - it's not proof of Q, right Ron?

The video Ryoder posted has a way more complete explanation. Your confusion is valid, but there's a reason why we want to do that with the ARDS-like stuff that happens with COVID19.

So, in theory it's not entirely crazy. Exactly how it works against malaria isn't fully understood, but is known to inhibit lysosome and some of the signaling pathways that can trigger the autoimmune cytokine storm that actually kills (most) patients in the ARDS-like state at the end-stage of COVID19 infection. So it theoretically could have been a one-two punch. The plural of "anecdote" isn't "data", though, so it's only now that we're seeing a lot more well-controlled studies are we seeing that it may not be as effective as hoped. But time will tell, we don't have all the information yet.

I would absolutely avoid hydroxychloroquine. Absolutely. Prolonged QT interval (heart arrhythmias), blindness, heart attack and stroke are known side effects at the theoretically necessary dose needed for efficacy. There was a theoretical reason to try it (inhibition of lysosomal activity and transcriptase) but the data so far aren't promising at all. Also, the window by which it has to be dosed is quite early (by time you have ARDS-like symptoms, it's too basically too late). So you're making a bet not knowing if you might have a mild case anyway and made other matters worse. If the data were promising, I would consider it if I was in dire straits, but anecdotes and Trump touting it aren't evidence. Disclaimer - I work for a pharmaceutical research company that has an affiliate that manufactures hydroxychloroquine, so this isn't my employer's position or using any information of my employer's or that affiliate's.

The whole Q fantasy is premised on the idea that there will be "military tribunals" in which all of the people that they don't like (which - wow, amazingly coincides with well-known people who criticize Trump, funny, that...) will be tried and executed, without judicial review (because that takes too long). So, basically, they are advocating that we throw out the Constitution and due process. People who believe in this nonsense are not just delusional, they stand against what our country actually stands for - democracy, rule of law, and due process. They're openly supporting dictatorship. That's why I make a point of mocking them every chance I get. I know many of you all pet Ron on the head and say "oh, you have such kooky beliefs, but we'll tolerate it because you used to be a skydiver", but man, if someone went around supporting the idea that people ought to be extra-judicially tried and we should defer all power to the President, most of you would call that fucker out. I'm glad, at least, to see there's been literally no support for his insane nonsense in this forum. The Q fantasy is not just delusional - it's anti-American. The idea that they try to wrap themselves in the flag is such utter fucking bullshit. What makes me smile lately is that all of their bullshit predictions have consistently failed, and even the gullible ones are starting to realize it's just a masturbatory fantasy.

No, the point is the media covers it because it should - but not for the reason you think. Imagine tomorrow there was an Internet hoax that spread throughout America that said that your neighbors might secretly be space aliens. At first, only very gullible people would believe it. Then, the grift might start. Then more gullible people would be drawn in because, "hey, did you hear about the space aliens?" would spread over Facebook. Sooner or later, if many people bought into it, the media might - and should - follow it because it's so darn looney. I mean, I'd want to know if people were so insane that they thought that lots of people were secretly space aliens. That doesn't mean that there *are* actually secret space aliens. It means we're observing a ton of abnormal psychology. Change "space alien" to "satanist pedo" and you've got Q. (Although some of the QAnon crew also believe there are secret space alien lizards, but that's beside the point...) >The more negativity published by the MSM, the stronger we become Hahahaha... Oh wait, you're serious - let me laugh harder. No, not really. Lately, your "movement" just perpetually misses its forecasts. How did your 10 days of darkness go, Ron? Are all the Mole Children rescued? Oh, wait, a bunch of... nothings. Nothing happened. Lots of people starting to realize it's just a silly LARP.

And I want to be super clear about my comment. Don't delude yourself into thinking that I believe that your crazy Q fantasy is real. It's not. But I want to point out how utterly fucking fascist and anti-American the whole Q fantasy is.

Ding ding ding. "Get rid of all the Satanists and people will think just like I do" is Ron's thesis. But even if there were Satanists (or whatever the heck you want to call them) and even if you got rid of them, reasonable people are going to disagree on a whole lot of stuff. I've never used the word crypto-fascist before, but dang, it seems like it fits... So let me ask you this, Ron. I'm not a Satanist or Luciferian. I'm a guy whos has a faith in God but I have a *huge* fucking difference of doctrine with you (on maybe a hundred things). I've never been a pedophile or anything to do with any of that sort of horrible stuff. So, am I going to get sent to a military tribunal and executed (or sent to a re-education camp), Ron? If not, at the end of your proposed Great Awakening, will I still be able to advocate for minorities, those disproportionately injured, religious freedom, and things like health care for all, or would that be against the White Hat regime? I'm really curious to hear Ron's answer. Because either he's going to tell me I'm going to be in an internment camp (or worse) in his fantasy regime, or he's going to say I'm not, in which case what fucking difference does this Great Awakening really mean? (I mean, don't like Obama or Clinton, sure, whatever, but even if you get rid of them, people are still going to support some of the same public welfare things that they did). I'd still support the well-being of disadvantaged folks, which seems anathema to Ron's whole Trump-fetish. If you won't answer to me, what's going to happen in your fantasy world to Kallend or BillVon? I'm really curious. So what's it going to be, Ron - don't dodge with a Q drop. Tell me what you think will happen to those of us who disagree with you and/or Trump in your fantasy?

Literally built into the Q fantasy is this idea that “military tribunals”, accountable to no one but the “white hats” (the amorphous group of “good guys”) will put all the bad people (which just so happens to be exactly the same set as those who criticize Trump) on trial and then execute them. Once you say, “OK, what then?” they usually don’t have an answer. The seem to not want democracy, that’s for sure.