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http://thisbluemarble.com/showthread.php?t=24050 Just another example of Christian values from the right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCxwprZekpM Why can't this be done in Haiti?

When I started jumping in the early eighties it was called R-dub or RW, took a brief 25 year break and now it's call FF. When did it change and why? Thanks

When did they drop the water jump? I jumped in a freezing ass pool in December for nada?

From wikipedia: The original conflict between the Catholics and Protestants in Ireland was not truly a matter of religion -- it was a matter of social class. Put quite briefly, the majority of the population in Ireland, post 1000 A. D., was Catholic. They never underwent the church reform that England did in the 1500s. Thus, by the 1600s, England = Anglican (Protestant), and Ireland = Catholic. When England began to establish plantations in Ireland and establish themselves as the ruling class, they often did it in a relatively unpleasant and domineering fashion, making themselves unpopular with their new subjects in the manner of America and India. Hostility arouse between Catholics and Protestants in this way not because the religions themselves bore marked differences, but because these denominations were attached to two very different classes. Intermarriages were frowned upon, not for spiritual reasons, but because the Protestant was marrying below their class. This hostility between the denominations continued into the present for many of the same reasons. Protestantism represents the continued presence of England in Northern Irish affairs, while Catholicism bears the stigma of being the religion of the poor, the rebels, and the socialists intent on a free Ireland.

I find they make great soup.

How is that different from the IRA in Ireland? One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, but Ireland did not involve our troops and our hundreds of billions of dollars. The conflict in Ireland was more of a secular dispute than one of religion and to some level it has been resolved. Afghanistan is all about religion.and when you are fighting a group that is willing to sacrifice to the level that the Taliban is willing to sacrifice, you're gonna have big problems. For the most part a secular man you can reasoned with (with some notable exceptions). I will take a secular terrorist over a religious fundamentalist any time.

Just curious if there is any position that Limbaugh has that you dont agree with?

The US is now negotiating with the Taliban to try and get them to play a role in Afghan politics? When we have to count on the Taliban to stabalize Afghanistan, I think we are pretty well screwed. Defence secretary Gates: "The question is whether they are prepared to play a legitimate role in the political fabric of Afghanistan going forward, meaning participating in elections, meaning not assassinating local officials and killing families." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34995797/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

Fema has done a lot for Michigan: http://www.google.com/search?q=fema+michigan+aid+history&hl=en&sa=G&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=KvBWS4WKF5LIsAON54nGBw&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11&ved=0CCIQ5wIwCg

9 million people and how many have been fed in a week? It worked in Bosnia and Afghanistan, This method would work in the more densly populated areas. The US air force thought it was great .Watching the riots now on TV and that does not seem to be working out very well for anyone except for the thugs. No need for the Haiti airport as they could fly straight from the US.

Mabe people are not understanding the concept: No parachutes are used at all, just tens of thousands of single packages are dropped and they "flutter" to the ground. The food is then distibuted over a large area and therfore there would not be the riots that we are seeing now. This already has a proven track record in Bosnia and Afghanistan http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?letter_id=4536249971&content_dir=politicsol (From: Science April, 1993) MREs From Heaven It sounded ludicrously simple to experts in aerial supply - so simple they hesitated to use it - but no, parachute food aid got the ultimate test last week when food packages began arriving free-fall on Bosnian sidewalks. This unorthodox method for feeding war victims was suggested by former U.S. nuclear weapons researcher Bill Wattenburg, an ex-Lawrence Livermore physicist turned radio talk show host. No shrinking violet, Wattenburg contacted the National Security Council staff at the White House last month to pitch a notion he'd first hatched 2 years ago, when the United Starts was involved in Iraq. Back then, he'd told US Army officials that, instead of bundling food in huge, bulky packages and parachuting it to spots easily targeted by hostile soldiers, they'd be better off omitting the parachutes and scattering small, durable US. snack packs directly onto trails and fields. Being a scientist, he'd even performed the crucial experiments - dropping granola bars from high buildings and leaving them exposed to the weather. Eureka, They remained intact and edible. Still, obdurate Army officials passed up their golden opportunity to scatter granola bars for hungry Iraqi Kurds. And that left Wattenburg to wait for his second hearing. This time around, it was only a few days after his call to the White House that U.S. Airplanes began using the new technique - which the military dubbed "fluttering" - over the hostage Bosnian town of Srebrenica. Rather than granola bars; the Army is raining down surplus "Meals Ready to Eat," or MRE meteors," as one Clinton official calls them. These Army rations may be less tasty and more dangerous than candy bars when airborne, but, says one White House official on background, 'they're better than nothing," and certainly better than starving, (San Francisco Chronicle - front page March, 1993) Dropping food in Smaller Bites The Pentagon has changed the way it is dropping supplies Bosnia, showering hundreds of thousands of individual food packets across area after weeks of shoving 1500-pound bundles out of the C-130 cargo planes. The bundles had missed drop zones and drawn the unwanted attention and firepower of the well-armed Serbs to the Muslims the food was intended for. Maverick Bay Area engineer Bill Wattenburg - known for his bizarre, yet effective Inventions - he persuaded the pentagon to initiate the change. Pentagon officials acknowledged that his idea was received with a fair amount of enthusiasm, although they said the change in relief supply strategy been "coincidental" because others had also broached the idea. The Pentagon began using the new scattering method Saturday night when three US planes flying out of bases in Germany dropped 17 tons of military style TV dinners over the besieged northern Bosnian city of Srebrenica. "You can shove a half a million of these things out the, back of a C-130," Wattenburg said. 'The people out there who are starving, they're shouting, 'Hallelujah, food's raining from the sky!' And they pick them up and eat them." Wattenberg said he initially suggested to President Clinton and the military that U.S. forces drop millions of granola bars on the Muslim refugees, but Pentagon nutrition experts dismissed the bars in favor of MREs because the meals designed for combat troops pack more nutrition and energy into small packages. Each MRE packet contains three 1,300-calorie meals that can be eaten hot or cold. In the packets are a basic meal, usually either meat, chicken, spaghetti or turkey loaf, as well as cheese and crackers, condiments, powdered coffee and sugar. Danger of Pallets One stumbling point of the 3 week-old U.S. relief program has been that the large pallets of food, airdropped from an altitude of about 10,000 feet, either miss the drop-zone, and end up in Serb hands or land where the huge white parachutes can be seen the next morning from Serb gun positions high up in the hills, Serb gunners reportedly fire on civilians trying to pick up the supplies. But dropping individual packets in their 10-inch by 6-inch by 2-inch tough plastic wrappers makes recovery much easier. "This scheme removes the danger aspect of parachute drop" Wattenburg said, "and allows immediate delivery to the most desperate - the children who starve before bulk supplies arrive weeks or months later." How the Drop Works Using the new distribution system, Air Force crews stack thousands of MRE's on the deck of the aircraft, near the rear loading ramp. When the plane is over its drop zone, the ramp is opened and the loosely bagged MRE's are pushed out. When the bags reach the end of their tethers, according to one Pentagon source, they break open and the MRE's drop to earth. Wattenburg, 57, is a Chico engineer who has frequently acted as a consultant to the Air Force and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. Two year ago, he made headlines when, working with Livermore Lab colleagues, he modified agricultural plows Into a 1,200 square-foot blanket of clanking chains and blades that, when lowed behind a helicopter, could be used to clear more than 500,000 mines left In the Kuwaiti desert after the Persian Gulf war.

Seems like a good idea to me. http://www.cbsnews.com/8618-3445_162-6106337.html?assetTypeId=30&messageId=8918956

They need the same system they used in Bosnia when the Serbs were trying to starve out Bosnians. The US simply dropped hundreds of thousands of single granola bars and MRE'S from 30,000 ft over the beseiged areas. This would stop the rioting at distribution points and the chance that the food would end up in the wrong hands. Since there would be no anti aircraft fire in Haiti they could drop from a few thousand feet. They also did this in Afghanistan at the beginning of the war. http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?letter_id=4536249971&content_dir=politicsol

From the skeptics dictionary: Implausibility of secrecy This and other conspiracy theories that require hundreds or thousands of co-conspirators suffer from the implausibility that comes with expecting human beings not to blow the whistle on the project. The greater the number of people needed to pull off a hoax or a secret crime, the greater the probability that somebody with blow the whistle. Given the number of people who would have to be involved to pull off this crime of the millennium, the Bush Administration 9/11 conspiracy theory has to be off the charts on the implausibility meter. For example, think about the claim made first by Hezbollah, then spread around the anti-Semitic media and blogs, that 4,000 Israelis who worked at the World Trade Center were contacted by the Mossad, warned of the impending attack, and were all absent from work on the day of the attack. Right. Four thousand people are told that terrorists plan to blow up the World Trade Center and not one of them mentions this to the thousands of others who work there? Four thousand people keep their mouths shut about such "information"? Yet, despite the absurdity on its face of such a claim, many people still believe it's true and they can find a website to back them up! The obvious error of the 9/11 deniers is in failing to falsify the claim that 9/11 was planned and executed by 19 Islamic soldiers at war with the United States and directed by Osama bin Laden. Providing alternative explanations for hundreds of events is not the same as falsifying this claim.

In total agreement, and this is probably one of the least stupid things Glover has said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/31502 Some times it takes a disaster of epic proportions to see a persons true character, yet people will still defend him, and the funny thing is most of them will profess to be Christians.

Drugs are terrible, I started off with just injecting heroin and before I knew it I was smoking weed.

Who said anything about banning anything, The breeds you just mentioned do bite a lot but they do not go for the kill. I just could never figure out why someone would buy a breed that has the instinctive nature not just to snap or bite at you but bite and crush your trachea and kill you.

Although pits are more likely than other breeds to be involved in a fatal attack, you are pulling the "100 times" out of your ass. The link here shows that 27% of fatal dog attacks between 1979 and 1998 were reported to be purebred pit types, and 4.1% reported to be crossbred pit-types. http://old.swivel.com/graphs/show/20898144 Pits are more likely to be involved to fatal attacks because the people who own them tend to be less responsible for the dogs, and often less responsible with their children. Pits also tend to be big and strong, so the result of their bite can be more serious than other breeds. Talk to anyone who has worked in an animal shelter and they'll tell you that the little dogs are much more likely to bite. People don't report chihuahua bites like they do pit bull bites. Breed determination is also often difficult, leading some non-pit dogs to be labelled pits because they bite someone. If you really think that the only reason this child was killed is because the dog was a pit, then you are sorely misinformed about general dog behavior. Here is where I received my info: http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf

. I am betting this dog did not clamp down on your throat and shake you. Big difference in what the average family fido will do verses what a pit bull will do

Any dog can, but on average it is 100 times more likely to be a pit bull.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34797771/ns/us_news/ Why would someone own a dog they know could kill or maim thier child?

] Conservatives claim the government likes to just give out money for anything and everything, yet now they are claiming if the government controls healthcare they will ration it and Grandma won't get that new liver to save her life. Why is it on one hand the right say the Dems want to spend spend spend but yet on the other they will all of a sudden not want to spend.

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