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Everything posted by georger
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Simpul Queshion: Have you run across the TinTin (comic book) in any of these venues/accounts so far ?
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you available tonight?
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Nukes are so passé… we got shit in the works that make Hiroshima look like a lawn-party. But keep being nice (to me and georger) and I’ll put in a good word for you. well put. I love it
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Ignore all you want. Sitting next to Waugh you could not fail to see his scars and would be grinding out fifty pages about them here, or their lack of existence and how wounds do not produce scars in special circumstances ... If Tina had seen them then you would want to discuss them. That's just bad science! Palin believes the world is 6000 years old and has the Fish to prove it! So 1/2 the forum will see scars, 1/2 will see no scars, and we will call it MCNAMARA's syndrome. Now: if Capt Kid turns up on some list and happens to show a resemblance to some poster then we ignore the eye patch and missing leg also? How far do we go? Do we admit females? That takes us right back to Barb and Cousin Bruce. Why then do we admit ANY physical description at all for Cooper? Or even one person. Cooper could have been two people switching positions in and out of the Lav. That is why four chutes were ordered! I see -
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I hate to pull rank here but are you actually telling me you dont see the scars (cranial to traecheal) in the photos you posted. I realise your expertise is in micro chips but I did five long years in an EMSOC (surgical out clinic) and surgical research ... Bruce did his residency as an orderly in a psych facility he says, just set aside for a moment the facts which lead to the scars (would produce scars). I will be landing on Veronka in a few minutes and hope they have a Wendy's with some Jo, but in the meantime I see scars as clear as .... Thors Helmet in the Pleaides! and I can see the scars
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Billy had serious head wounds that caused the NVA to consider him dead (and yet, he still got evac-d), and he spent two years or so at Walter Reed...yet there are no visible scars that seem to jump out at us,Hmmm. Hmmm is right. You need glasses.
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Funny. Snow funny too. Whenever is fine... Guess I need to get my little magnifying glass out - Ive wonder for five years where it went!
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On the other hand, people could leave Bill alone and look at Bradon who Bill suggested. I urge caution in this. Great caution. Carr is reading here -
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I provided pictures from say May 1971. You're saying you can see scars in that picture from May 1971? If so, circle and post. The only other Cooper visible anatomy would be hands. I forget if hands were visible in any pictures. If pictures are available to confirm scars, why are you relying on text? Obviously he healed enough from his wounds (including multiple broken ankles from jumps) to do the Vietnam halo jump in 1971. I guess I don't see your point at all. I posted the text to provide context for wounds. I posted two pics, and thats all Im posting. Just a few affected areas circled red. Billy is not our guy - at least I dont think so. I dont want to infringe on him further... Simple as that. I dont think Billy would approve or enjoy any of this. Thats my stand. wE ARE DEALING WITH A LIVING PERSON HERE AND A WAR HERO ALSO. Lets dont do what Dvorak-Meyers did! Thats where Im at with this -
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And even that is extremely tenuous. I have attached a 'mug-shot' of a serial killer, and an identikit image of the suspect. The killer was shot very recently in South Carolina. There is virtually no resemblance between the two. disagree. The serial killer sketch is a good match. I agree.
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I have noted I don't have good detail on the critical Nov-Dec, 1971 timeframe. Snow, I want to point out, Cooper had no scars, tatoos, or facial/hand blemishes of note reported. BW does and would have been noticed, as per the below and other actions BW saw by 1971. You can see several prominent features in the photos you posted . . . reference: " In 1965, while participating in a commando raid with his CIDG unit on a North Vietnamese Army encampment near Bong Son, Binh Dinh province, Waugh's unit found itself engaged with much larger enemy force then anticipated. Expecting only a few hundred NVA, it was discovered that a force of Chinese regulars had joined the NVA Elite; combining for almost 4,000 soldiers. While he and his men attempted to retreat from the battle, Waugh received numerous severe wounds to his head and legs. Unconscious, he was taken for dead by NVA soldiers and left alone. Despite his injuries, and with the assistance of his teammates, Waugh was safely evacuated from the combat zone. He spent much of 1965 and 1966 recuperating at Walter Reed Hospital in Washington, D.C., eventually returning to duty with 5th SFG in 1966. He received a Silver Star and a Purple Heart (His 6th) for the battle of Bong Son." (wiki)
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Well, in Snow's defense, I see it all the time in many fields. People get focused on a problem and get separated from the larger picture. That is part of what Snow means when he says someone is not (being) a scientist, or what Sluggo means when he says, 'knowing more and more about less and less', meaning "detachment". And it sometimes wins Nobel Prizes. I will spare everyone and wont elaborate. Im trying to spare everyone my detachment.
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Only if the only thing a person has ever been exposed to in their entire life are movies about the old west (or possibly if they'd like to make a connection where one can't be logically drawn). Otherwise, it's pretty universal. I may have mispoken. I wasnt referring just to some John Wayne's version of Maaaaaaam. See: http://www.ling.upenn.edu/phono_atlas/home.html and attached phonological dialect maps: I tried to make this point with Ckret but got nowhere. Cooper spoke an Earth language linking to somewhere; maybe just where hearers said it did. No accent means no perceived accent because that is all it can mean, as defined by those who heard it, who must have shared some common regional trait in order to make their consensus judgment. No accent either has a definition or it is meaningless.
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I don't know why georger is talking about dishonorable discharges. The issue is Ted Bradon whoever he is. If AWOL then a Dishonorable might have followed, which might add up to grudge. We dont know the time frame Waugh is talking about w/respect to Bradon being AWOL vs. 11-24-71. I wonder how common AWOL was in SOG units?
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Thanks. Records are being searched. Something should surface. Im working through the system quickly, everything above board, with a SOG veteran. We will send a forum member anything found for his evaluation then we will see what to do next - Whoever, had to be available. Records should clear that up. A Dishonorable could have been grounds for a grudge, if the person was even available. Age and appearance must also fit. But it is a solid lead that must be examined. Snowmman, get your butt back. We are down to stripped staff and we need your input! You have the free field you need and want . . .
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Ma'am is Texas drawl. Cooper had no accent. Where was Ted Bradon from. Dont use Google. Use other search engines. There is no Georger vs Snowmman split. There is a Snowmman vs Snowmman split, Smowmman vs TK, Snowmman vs H, Snowmman vs Carr, Snowmman vs Thomas etc etc. In the final analysis any forum member's opinions are just that - opinions. Snow has made mistakes just as the above people have made mistakes. For anyone to take that personally seeking some kind of moral victory is another mistake. Im only going to post on the things that interest me, which means not posting much at all. It just isnt worth the hassle to do otherwise and accomplishes nothing under the current regime. I might have a few surprises for you along the way, if things work out. As far as I am concerned Snowmman is just one person here. Snow is however very good at generating IDEAS - that is the real power behind his searches. Snow seems to want a free field to conduct his labors in so I hope he will continue since he basically has been given a free open field here, just as Orange1 and 377 want. I hope he continues, for the sake of the forum.
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Jo, You are teasing again. What is it that you are referring to above? Whenever you claim something was "hushed up" my skepticism alarm goes off. 377 More Jerry Springer? You interrupted it just above. Back at it! Make up your fucking mind! This looks like highschool entitlement. I didnt come here to challenge entitlement, just to point it out. You only sold two magazines. Six others sold 225, 213, 169, 125, 39, and 16. How come you get the award!? Sounds rigged to me.
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Jerry - WRONG! Clarify and oorrect Jerry. When I was talking to Georger I did NOT have a pill in my system. Only after I got off the computer and was preparing for bed at 6AM. The remark about what is Cooking on the Stove. That set him off and he smarted back with "How would I know". He was baiting me to find out "What was Cooking" (this regards the D.B. Cooper story in process). Has absolutely nothing to do with REAL food other than in the sense of what is going on I did not threaten anyone in anyway. In fact I turned Georgers question back on him in a joking way - Thinking that with the questions he asked he was settling back down to earth....and perhaps he just wanted to get something straight. Jerry - all I wanted was for you to stop ATTACKING me every post I make, start telling the truth and to stop calling me a liar.. A good example is the above post - you took the truth and made it ridiculous. After what I have taken off of you I certainly don't need you to speak for me..... Why was I laughing on the phone - This has become the Springer Show (never watch those things) and I figured Georger called you just to see how far you would go and you call me telling you the authorities were coming to arrest me . Think about the remarks said not in jest, but the mean and hurtful things you have said over the yrs Jerry - on the phone and on the forum. I believe that could be classified as Elder Abuse. This is why I was laughing - because you 2 guys have managed to take wonderful thread and the opportunity to solve the crime and put it in the potty. Georger you need to get a sense of humor. You ask me a question and I answered it adding a metaphor about What's Cooking! Don't you have a Wife or Mother? Never had them use that expression when they want to know what is going on. Give me a break! - you knew exactly what I meant and what I was referencing. You are damned right this has become the Jerry Springer, whatever. And YOU are the lead act and the only act. Everything revolves around you just as you want it and put forth so much effort to design it. Other people see it differently. Yes. I knew what you meant and yous aid what you meant: Quote: "best to open this From: skyjack71 Date Sent: Jun 22, 2009, 4:21 AM we need to go back and delete those post right now or this forum will be shut down - I will chill out if you get Jerry to lay off. " I dont see any humor in that at all. Its rank manipulation under implied threat, a threat of what I dont know but a threat nonetheless. You said it was "very hot" and I would be uncomfortable. You had already forcing me to call Mr. Thomas or "I will chill out if (when) you get Jerry to lay off." It would have been better had you demanded $200,000. ! Now there's a real joke, or is it? How am I or anybody supposed to guess what your latest TEASE means in the middle of trying to run this forum to suit yourself when you say: "best to open this From: skyjack71 Date Sent: Jun 22, 2009, 4:21 AM we need to go back and delete those post right now or this forum will be shut down - I will chill out if you get Jerry to lay off. Copyright©2008 by Jo Weber YOU EVEN COPYWROTE IT! Is that ego or what!?
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Are you threatening mer and my family? Shoud I call LE now? Jo you have made a threat. I am waiting for a reply. Simmer down. About the only way this is a "threat" is if she actually knows something that she could in fact release to the public or police that puts you or your family at risk. Knowing her history, how likely do you think that really is? Unless of course, you're in the witness protection program or something and somehow she knows your location. Jo's actions were intentional and meant to threaten as indicated by her PM to me: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=message_view;message=1650455; best to open this From: skyjack71 Date Sent: Jun 22, 2009, 4:21 AM we need to go back and delete those post right now or this forum will be shut down - I will chill out if you get Jerry to lay off. Copyright©2008 by Jo Weber Quade. As someone who has had to tell Jo she does not run this forum, cant control content, cant tell people what to post or not, cant tell people who can post or not post, cannot demand to know who people are and their credentials, etc etc etc. How can you be surprised when she finally does issue a threat and takes someone hostage, to try and get someone else to do as she wills! ? She took the forum hostage first, before me. Her first line indicates that she knows YOU wont approve of what she is doing. But she didnt delete her post did she. She went right ahead. She got me to call Mr. Thomas and get him out of bed... dah-dah dah-dah. All over a forum and DB Cooper!? Either you people are blind or you are stupid. You just didnt think she would go this far. That's your problem as I see it.
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Wayne, I got Jerry out of bed. He is calling Jo and will call me back shortly. But I have to take Jo seriously here - you know that. She's gone over the edge apparently. But we cant take chances. You know that. I had asked Quade if I could block messages but 'he never replied. I will do as you instruct pending the outcome here. I worked late last night then this came up - I havent even been to bed yet if it matters.
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Well I guess I apologise for posting your damned PM. I barely even read it - why should I! - I just posted it. I told you a thousand times to stop sending me your PM's. I dont want anything to do with your PMs and your personal business. I told you that a million times publically. There is no way to block them or I would have ages ago - You guarantee that you are not threatening me or my family and I will remove my posts, but, Law Enforcement has been notified in the meantime just in case. We take threats very seriously here as any rational person would. I have no control over Jerry Thomas whatever. Your business with Mr Thomas is yours and his and I have no part of it at all. But you are not going to threaten me to get to Jerry Thomas! That is crazy. Get that through your head! You need to make a decision here very quickly because I am not going to sit here and wait much longer. So, as I understand this, you have threatened ME in order to get Jerry Thomas to let you alone? Does that about cover it? Jerry Thomas is in bed in Washington, Jo. How does threatening ME get to Jerry Thomas? Especially right now since I have notified Law Enforcement of your threat. ? Since you wont reply there is nothing I can do. Good bye.
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Well I guess I apologise for posting your damned PM. I barely even read it - why should I! - I just posted it. I told you a thousand times to stop sending me your PM's. I dont want anything to do with your PMs and your personal business. I told you that a million times publically. There is no way to block them or I would have ages ago - You guarantee that you are not threatening me or my family and I will remove my posts, but, Law Enforcement has been notified in the meantime just in case. We take threats very seriously here as any rational person would. I have no control over Jerry Thomas whatever. Your business with Mr Thomas is yours and his and I have no part of it at all. But you are not going to threaten me to get to Jerry Thomas! That is crazy. Get that through your head! You need to make a decision here very quickly because I am not going to sit here and wait much longer.
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Its better to be safe than sorry. Law enforcement has been notified and is aware of the situation. Thanks. Georger
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Are you threatening mer and my family? Shoud I call LE now? Jo you have made a threat. I am waiting for a reply.
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Georger stated: As for what's cooking on your stove - how would I know? Jo retorts; You won't know until it is ready to be served. Any more silly question and I just might dump the bowl in your lap. Since it is extremely hot I don't think you will find that very comfortable. Are you threatening mer and my family? Shoud I call LE now?