davjohns

A little help... Full autos are not illegal. Silencer are not illegal (I have two). Sawed off shotguns are not illegal. This is all under federal law. States can have more restrictive laws. Full autos, silencers and sawed off shotguns were taxed specially because they were highly favored by the gangs of the 1920's. At the time, a tommy gun was $50. So, the feds quadrupled that number and made the transfer tax on an auto or a silencer $200. To own one, you must fill out paper in duplicate and send it in with your transfer tax to the BATF. In about 90 days, they will notify you and your dealer that you are cleared and send you one set of your paperwork back with tax stamps on it like you see on cigarettes. This is your proof that you have paid your tax. You are now good to go. If you sell the device, the new purchaser has to go through the same routine. Oddly, sawed off shotguns and some other deadly devices like grenade launcers only have a $5 tax, but you have to do the same paperwork. Hope that helps. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I don't understand why it can't be a museum. They can take out the fuel out for servicing the reactors. I can't imagine the reactors are needed elsewhere after they are decommissioned. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

No constitutional right to stereos or loud music. You could argue that it's a free speech issue. But then, you need guns to protect your other rights, now don't you? I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Is it wrong that since hearing they were no longer available, I've been wanting one? I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

There are laws against bigamy??? That's just wrong. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

While I wouldn't agree with that sentiment universally, in the case of graduated taxes (and certainly in the case of a tax to raise the morale of the less wealthy), there is an argument. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Not a problem. Just put an equal tax on free speech, free press, religion, freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, voting, (you see where this is going, right?). I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Who let the dogs out? For $2.5B...I'm really not curious if there has been life on Mars. I can think of better things to do with that money. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Interesting. He did the same thing to me. I tried to thank him for the nude photos, but decline his offer and found out he doesn't accept replies. How odd. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Because they think it sounds like something average citizens shouldn't have. And you DO remember all the drive-by bayonettings that were thwarted by the AWB, don't you? And all the people beat to death with the pistol grip? And the way the flash suppressor made them pass through metal detectors unnoticed? How about how the collapsible stock was used to crush baby seal heads? I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Thank you for that clarification. I didn't realize there was social class snobbery amongst the various primate species. Of course there is. Gun owning primates naturally look down on their inferior non-gun owning primates. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Am I the only one who wants to keep taxes about finances and not 'morale'? Numbers really don't care how you feel. I understand that emotions play into discretionary spending, but taxes? I'm really disturbed by that. Andy: No problem. I'm just interested in your analysis when you get a chance. Thanks. David I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Who is "my kind"? A nuclear bomb is an object too, but that doesn't mean that everyone should have one. Humans are imperfect, they're fallible, they screw up, and sometimes they turn just plain evil. So it's not a good idea to arm them with things that they can use to kill others. Humans are imperfect, they're fallible, they screw up, and sometimes they turn just plain evil. So it's not a good idea to disarm their law-abiding prey. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I do not, have not, and never will cling to a gun. I hold it firmly with my dominant hand as my non-dominant hand provides support (long gun) or rearward pressure (pistol). Although, I will admit that I once had a new AR15 and my wife was unaware I put it in the bed beside me the first night...but there was no cuddling. :-) I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

As I've said before, 'fair' never means what it purports to mean anymore. I've asked Andy twice to give me an objective definition of 'equivalent burden' since I consider this another soft term like 'fair' that is really emotion based. He seems to drop out of discussions about the time I ask. (NOT implying he is avoiding. I truly think we are missing each other) I tried to PM him, but he doesn't accept PMs. I really want to get a definition. Nobody else has come forward to defend the term, either. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Why does the phrase 'one trick pony' always make me think of prostitution? I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I object to being called stereotypical. I use a high quality sound system. While it is in stereo, it is hardly typical. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

All the equipment is required and inspected at the annual TC (government inspection). In addition, I am about to have to prove that I have a set of snow tires for the vehicle or all-weather tires. The breathalyzer is for when I cross into France, and I have to have two of the approved variety. My point was that I have never 'needed' any of this. For Christal to impose a requirement that I have previously 'needed' a firearm before I can have one is ludicrous. If I 'needed' one previously, I am likely dead now and it all goes moot. It's a very emotional argument and the reason I've stopped responding to her posts. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Exactly. Depends of the country and its police force. As we mostly trust in our policemen a bit more than people in other countries are doing, where's the problem? I know my local sheriff, he knows me and what I own, so what? BTW: How many times were you in need to use a hand gun during your European stay, how many times until today were you in danger in Europe? I'm currently in Europe. I can't leave my stuff on my motorcycle like I do in the US. Everything here seems to grow legs. The area is considered so dangerous that the US government reimburses me up to twice my outrageous monthly rent for me to get an alarm system. Every house has motion sensitive exterior lighting and double cylinder locks. I am far less comfortable here. That was not my question. Leaving stuff openly is nowhere a good idea. I really doubt you can do this in the US (except perhaps on the parking area of the WH). (You really posted that: ".... like I do in the US" ??? Nice joke.) Last time I was in the US, I left my handbag on the passenger seat of the car. 2 policemen on horses strongly asked me NOT to do that, if I need to leave the bag, it should be locked away in the trunk. That much for leaving your stuff in the open ..... You're feeling less comfortable? Perhaps, you're missing some equipment which you're not allowed to carry over here. Again: How many times did you need a hand gun for protection in Belgium? (Did not know them Belgians are that thieving magpies ) Yup. I would leave my helmet, jacket and such on my bike when I went into a store or something in the US. I can't leave it with the bike even on post here. I can't say I have 'needed' a firearm here or in the US. But then, I haven't needed the triangle, reflective vest, fire extinguisher, breathalyzers, first aid kit or other stuff I'm required to carry in my car here, either. Yes. I feel less comfortable here, because I know criminals have a much better chance of being armed than I do. After many years of combat training, I know the value of a weapon. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

In Belgium??? Come on, there are plenty of parts of the USA where you wouldn't even leave you bike parked, everywhere has good and bad areas. In Sebastian FL I saw a bike that had been burnt outside a bikers bar, why? Because it was Japanese! The people I purchased my house from wanted to get rid of their car so left the keys in the ignition and the window open day and night when it was parked outside, it was there for three months before they gave up. Yup. In Belgium. "This location may be authorized a move-in allowance for security as the Department of State has determined that this is a high crime or terrorism location. For more information on the MIHA Security allowance see the Joint Federal Travel Regulation - Chapter 10, Paragraph 10026, and Appendix N." I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

What if someone threw a gun party, and no one came? You can safely presume that I have passed from this life...along with most of the people I know. But be assured I will not leave my guns to you. :-) I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Exactly. Depends of the country and its police force. As we mostly trust in our policemen a bit more than people in other countries are doing, where's the problem? I know my local sheriff, he knows me and what I own, so what? BTW: How many times were you in need to use a hand gun during your European stay, how many times until today were you in danger in Europe? I'm currently in Europe. I can't leave my stuff on my motorcycle like I do in the US. Everything here seems to grow legs. The area is considered so dangerous that the US government reimburses me up to twice my outrageous monthly rent for me to get an alarm system. Every house has motion sensitive exterior lighting and double cylinder locks. I am far less comfortable here. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

No the concept isn't lost on me, but we are talking fair share. So tell me Kallend just what is my fair share? What is your fair share? How do you come up with what is fair? Lets break it down real simple for you. Lets take a pie. Lets put you me and billy boy at the table. We need to divide the pie up into fair share portions. Well I'm bigger the both of you so my fair share should be 75% Now Billy is younger then you and just had a kid and your old and going to die soon so you really don't need any pie so lets give the rest to billy...Sounds fair to me using your logic...Pretty ridicules don't ya think.... Flat tax does not promote the real-world fairness equivalence-of-burden; only a graduated tax rate does. That's why it's existed for decades, even when the GOP has had the majority in Congress. This is the third thread in as many weeks that I've had to explain this. It's amazing how many non-wealthy conservatives fail to get it, and actually - eagerly - advocate their own butt-fucking.* http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4405259#4405259 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4400009#4400009 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3481855#3481855 * Not that there's anything wrong with that. Andy: I asked for you to clear this up in a prior thread, but I think you stopped participating. How do you define 'equivalent burder' in a rational way? It's an emotional argument. It's how the tax 'feels'. Is that how we now define 'fair'? Does it have to 'feel' right to...whom? I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

You were being sarcastic right? I don't think so. He seems far too rabid for something as subtle as sarcasm. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Someone will be over in a moment to search your house. No warrant needed. If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Also, I've been a police officer and a criminal defense attorney. Don't get me started on how trustworthy the police are... I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.