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That is more or less the approach I am using on my Katana, plus I am trying to release the risers slowly and smoothly after the final 90. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

To add to what I wrote yesterday, the jump from 170 to 150 was bigger than from 190 to 170, but not huge. As with any new canopy, plan to pull high on your first few jumps and put it though its paces in clear airspace. The information gained up high on flare technique, stall points, sweet spot etc will mean that your first landing won't be the first time you have asked this canopy to plane out and slow down. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

I did that downsize at about 50 jumps total and while it was noticeably faster, it was nothing I couldn't handle. PD sizes its canopies so that a single size downsize is perfectly manageable for someone who is competent on the larger size. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

I was different to this dude. While many on here disagreed with WHAT I was flying, NOBODY ever had to speak to me about HOW I was flying. There is a world of difference. And as to my right to say something.... pfft, never mind. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

They're known as "top rings". Some swoop risers have them. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

I don't think there is much near SD2. Why don't you email them for recommendations. They may also be able to arrange transport to/from the DZ. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

I would take the view that the chances of a two out are much less than a regular reserve ride and are largely controllable (gear maintenance, pin-checks, don't pull dirty-low). Therefore you should size your reserve for a regular reserve ride and make it a size that you are comfortable with in an emergency situation. Get the biggest one you can for your rig and, if at all possible, jump one as a main a few times (do NOT hook up your actual reserve for this!!) "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

I think that does explain a lot. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

You waited until your jump numbers were in double figures to get an elliptical? What was the matter - you get skeered? "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Go to England and you might end with a Hothorse Or hotcats in China. Either is probably preferable to a Hot Pocket in the US! "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Some pilots/drop zones won't give you a go around due to the wasted money and time. You either get out where you are, or ride the plane down and waste your jump ticket. That's an unacceptable choice. The DZO needs to have a serious talk with them about cooperating for everyone's good. My point still stands. You can choose to ride the plane down. Nobody forces you to have a long spot. And if you get a long spot, pull a little higher and learn to fly a canopy to maximise your glide. Besides, at Eloy don't 4-way teams get out on a separate pass at 10,500? "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

What are you looking for in the change? "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

You come here spouting unsupported crap and hiding behind an anonymous user profile and then talk about integrity. I doubt anyone will take you seriously. I am very curious as to your motives, because you certainly seem to have an axe to grind. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Now if you reverse that order it suddenly becomes US flag colors :P And the colours of the flags of UK, France, The Netherlands etc, etc, etc "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

The Schuemann wing planform is not new and was not invented for the Petra. PD was working on this kind of wing shape back in the 80s, but shelved it for some reason to which I am not privy. I don't know why there has to always be a conspiracy theory - a competitive environment between parachute companies is the fertile ground from which product improvement grows. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Cool man - that's really good! Yeah, flight cycles occur after any input, but are more pronounced after certain types of input (e.g. toggle turns) and less with others (e.g. harness turns). "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

You really should take a canopy course if you're asking these questions. This is very elementary stuff. Have you heard of "flight cycles"? When any kind of input is given to a canopy which causes it to deviate from full, straight flight it will go through a number of cycles of primarily roll and pitch changes. As it does this airspeed will vary. These are flight cycles. Since they are cyclical, and induce pitch changes, exactly how much flare you get while going through them depends on what part of the cycle you are at when it's time to flare. If you happen to need to flare when the canopy has reached its maximum pitch/minimum airspeed and is starting to dive again you're going to get a crappy flare. The above is the reason why canopy instructors often teach 10 seconds of full flight between the last turn to final and flaring - to allow the flight cycles from the base-final turn to die away and allow the canopy to fly at full speed thereby giving maximum kinetic energy to convert to lift in the flare. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Thanks for setting me straight on a few things there! "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

From what I have heard (and clearly I am nowhere near flying one of these things) they open hard and are trimmed extremely steep. Initiation altitudes have to go way up for the same degree of turn. I don't know if they require a dramatically different technique to max out. One PDFT member told me that they wanted the HnP altitudes for swoop comps to be raised due to how much altitude is lost during the normal post-opening housekeeping. What was fine with a Comp Velo is barely enough altitude for a Peregrine. I don't know anything about riser pressure, but I have heard that they have a two-step rear riser control. Step one is to plane out the wing and then when you think you might need to go to toggles you can give it a little bit more with the Peregrine and it will keep flying without compromising the toggle response. Again this is second-hand info and I am not sure if Ian feels able to comment on the above statements, but clearly he is best placed to do so. Regarding the restricted market. I am all for it and I think that anyone who complains about and wants one should get on the CP circuit and earn one. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Too hardcore for me!! "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

You can make that happen today if you want. Think about it. On it's own? Not following you on that one. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Jalopeno had already been taken. ETA: my suggestion to PD was to go with "Marshmallow" because: "It swoops, and then it swoops s'more" "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

You could learn a lot about your pattern from a FJC. You don't need a specific canopy coach for that. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Is it really possible to take an RDS to terminal? Of course, why would you think not? "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Here are some thoughts (not facts, thoughts) based on what I have seen of them: It is thicker than regular ZP, not sure if it qualifies as full sail. Based on the above I am sure it will pack larger than a VC. I know they are building them down to 67, and WLs above 3.0 are getting great results on this wing. With that and the target audience in mind, they may decide that 67 is small enough and just let the light guys/girls weight up with 30-40lbs of lead. I really doubt that PD will build any size you want - that's not how they work. Things don't scale well and they're not going to let essentially untested wings out there. $$$$ ! "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA