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Mexico We'll have to wait until ATF does their Number check to find out it's origion and $$$ trail. One Jump Wonder

Base jumpers tend to jump off the side of a building to freefall. where there is no resistance. If they try to fall through a suppot column or many layers of thich concrete they will not have very much sucess at all, I imagine i don't have to ellaborate on that. I would like to answer all of your questions, but I will not be strayed away from the subject at hand, that is to remind you that NIST have admitted free fall speeds of tower7's collapse and that is impossible without explosives. Your base jumper analogy is a joke Bill. The Gravity theory is false. Its a coverup to hide the fact that he world sucks. One Jump Wonder

Got about a good weekend sitting around a campfire to listen? It'll take that long. This shit just never ends in KC. Do a forum search (KC area dropzones or something) There has always been a very minor about of trash talking about the "other" DZ all over the countrry. This KC crap has taken trash talking to a new level. Stupid bad boy, stupid bad girl, the Feds may come after you for trash talking. Better burn your computer, Burn your cell phone, and hope someone doesn't rat your ass out for talking stupid shit. One Jump Wonder

I'm thinking painting both sides of the Aluminium foil with lead paint (from china) would do the trick. One Jump Wonder

As difficult as it is to get a handle on cool (getting a good handle on anything automatically makes it uncool), a BMW is definitely not it. A BMW is the ultimate upper-middle wannabee ride; extremely bourgeoise, the absolute opposite of cool. Utilitarian (fulfilling basic functional needs) or highly exotic are both acceptable. The stuff in between, the $40K to $150K "sports" cars are for those that want to put on a show and portray some image or another but can't afford the real thing. So a 1966 VW bus is still One Jump Wonder

True enough. Now then - 72 hot, slutty chicks who know what they're doing? That'd be a whole 'nuther story. The promise is virgins. Not female virgins. I was wondering where all these vigins were coming from Death is forever virgins aren't. I'm thinking the 72 virgin thing is metafore for Heaven. I also decline the to donate 10% of my income to the church so I'll be with the 's in heaven.

You won't have to take a trip to Venezuela to see that. If the current administration gets there way, we can have that right here. All we need is for Tim Geithner to decide that Plum Creek is "large enough to effect the economy" and he'll go ahead and take control of the company for the "benefit of the nation." OTOH We could make the land into a National park like Glacier

Only because most people believe the propaganda One Jump Wonder

Or those who read it and actually understand what the underlying problem is, not just the displaying of some sticker or flag. It also helps to be able to recognize the difference. Just like how a cop can tell the difference from a group of HOG riders and a pack of Bandidos. They both have motorcycles. They both have leather and patches on their leathers. Gee, those stupid cops surely can't tell the difference, huh Paul? Damn I better remove my "Support Local PD" bumper sticker from my BMW One Jump Wonder

Hi Mircan Agreed Packing is good for keeping in shape. The problem for some people with OLD is tt's not the best way to get back into shape. For some people being a sissy and out of shape was earned over a long period of hard work of drinking, smoking overeating, and other forms of self abuse. Not the best for skydiving but there is a life outside the DZ. In hindsight take care of your body, its the only one you got and you may have it longer than you expected to. One Jump Wonder

Hi K IMO if you want it all, now, and $$$ is no object than the customer will take the express ride to being a real skydiver. AFF all the way The turbine DZ's need the cash flow and profit that AFF offers, and wants to provide what their customers think they need. I'm not sure that Cessna DZ and static line is a thing of the past in all parts of the country. They offer a quality product at a fair price. It's just not a glamerous or fast as AFF. How many video's do you see on line of a static line jump vs a AFF jump The recession is going to hit all area's of our economy (Except Guns) I think It's just hitting the turbine DZ's harder. Back in the day static line cessna 180/182 was all there was thats how we learned. It works I've seen the mega DZ with Turbines, tandems, AFF swimming pool, snack bar, gear store, professional skydivers, video people, packers. If thats what the public think they need so be it. Different strokes for different folks. Enjoy what you got. Whatever it is, as long as its safe. One Jump Wonder

If your going to be a fashion queen/king. Money is no object. That may even be part of the attraction look at me I can afford to spend $$ or chare the CC to special order everything in coordinating colors. I think if you look at most of the jumpers with the "right stuff" their spending their limited resources on becoming better jumpers, getting more air time, going to boogies, rather than looking great on the ground. OTOH it your $ spend it like you feel you need to.

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Dear Warpedksydiver +1 to what JR said Your dad was a member of the greatest generation. He will never be forgotten in a good way. One Jump Wonder

Hi Dude I think the Nigeria scam started before slyride. But slyride or it's clone may be around at least as the nigeria folks. BTW we know a DZ in Nigeria that does Tandems and we can hook you up with a reservation if you pay with CC or paypal. Just for you, all Dudes get 10% discount. If you make your reservation in the next 19 minutes. Public Disclosure: Warning that was a joke. R.I.P. R.I.P.

Hi Howard Thanks for the "Rest of the Story" That B-25 sure was a bad luck airplane R.I.P.

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In case "they" are reading this. i don't remember anything that happened in the world from my DOB to the present.Or anything I've read in this thread. Just in case "they" don't believe me I'm going to add three extra layers of aluminum foil to the walls of my bunker and my helmet (which I never take off) I'm guessing DB cooper flew his secrete jet powered birdman suit south and landed his stealth HAHO canopy in mexico, gulf of mexico, or cuba. R.I.P.

Snip I'm a data point on the curve of no injuries at all. Would I recommend to others - yes, IF they had the same background as me and were not a male under the age of 30. John I hope you take this as a complement There are very very few jumpers like you

Damn now you tell me Where were you yesterday On a serious note the scam had nigeria writen all over it. Thanks for the heads up for the virgins. R.I.P.

That must be comforting to the friends and families of those two cops. Israel could make peace with the major opposition forces, and there would always be some assholes left that would continue the violence, sucking everyone back into it. Gaza is the most current example. is everyone in ireland being sucked back into war? (by a splinter group of a splinter group) - no, they've got more sense. same with the palestinians and the israelis in a few years time

You all can debate his issue all you want In the real world it don't mean squat I'll wait for the Supreme court decision.

I am still waiting for some Israeli death camps for the Palistinians in the Negev..base don YOUR desire to demonize them...where are they Darius????? OH wait,, that was actually the Arab states and OTHER certain countries in that area who were friendly to Hitler and supported his desire to eradicate Jews... interesting NEWSPEAK you talk out of your mouth Don't know nothing about the hitlet shit "back in the day" But Gaza did remind me of Warsaw ghetto. Where a large population was forced to live in under squald conditions in a small confined space. Travel outside the ghetto was restricted and the supply of water, food, and utilities was controled by a superior military force. Death camps aren't going to happen. However ghetto's and everything they stand for do breed generations of hate. After enough generations of pain & hate the younger genertions become willing to die in a misguided attempt to regain their honor and get even. 50 more years

Great class-warfare response...you'd do Marx proud. Fannie and Freddie are not Wall Street outfits...they are Beltway outfits and their collapse can be directly attributed to Congressional action/inaction and the Bush Administration not pushing hard enough over the years. The only thing the politicans know how to do is get elected. "Great class war fare response" get over it dude this isn't the army or the 1800's. In the real world if you don't succed in your job or don't take care of your people you should not be rewarded or promoted for failure. I don't think Mr Marx had anything to do with the French revolution or the king losing his head. If the king of france had listened to the misery of the frence lower class, maybe the frence nobility wouldn't have lost their jobs. R.I.P.