ErricoMalatesta

No I think it is amazing that a country can so feverishly have its youth turn to pro-American pop culture ideals after you fire bombed half the country and then tested out nuclear bombs on them. Heck yeah. And glad we did, too. They started the damn war, we finished it. You are glad hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed. Well I think we can safely assume you were cheering over the twin towers as well. And they didn't "start the war" they launched a "pre-emptive strike", but I guess its only a "pre-emptive strike" when you win in the end... or are the US The Japanese regimes have always been brutal which has what to do with murdering 100,000s of civilians and THEN testing out nuclear bombs on them? and it wasn't just Tokyo American soldiers - Japanese civilians You guys like to lynch black people is that relevant to 9/11?

No I think it is amazing that a country can so feverishly have its youth turn to pro-American pop culture ideals after you fire bombed half the country and then tested out nuclear bombs on them.

Yes it is a nation of Africa. Why would I not "even" know where it is from what I previously said?

It's cooling off here in NYC this evening. I believe that's because hell just froze over. Oh the hypocrisy. He's now trying to wear the mantle of Protector of the Environment - because the Supremes told him to stop with the delaying tactics. Oh, just admit it, John... Bush could walk on water to save a child from drowning and all you could say is "Bush can't swim"... Has the child been drowning for several years and has bush previously refused to sign child saving protocols?

Are they real chips? To qualify for a chip you must be delicious and to qualify as a monk you must be bald, also you must be rabies free for both jobs. I have created this thread for my American friends and well wishers who think O'Reilly and others are credible "journalists" that you can get a centered and factual world view from watching.

I guess the lesson here is if you carry out brutal repression against your people but you are currently friends with the west, cough Pakistan, India, etc then the cricket game is on, but if you are just that little bit more radical and unfriendly then clearly you are a tyrant and you get no cricket.

How many Americans here watch (or even know about) Democracy Now? Robert Fisk interview from March 07 Part 1 - Bin Laden http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhKNGnpHEYw Part 2 - Iraq and mercenaries http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My8yeHEvsmk Part 3 - US, UK and Iraqi troops. Typical unreported war crimes. Lebanon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgT_9Rqap-s Part 4 - Afghanistan. Israel/Palestine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTp9qa7-5YE

I see your point but "war crimes" against innocent civilians, any civilian death is always a tragedy, but unless someone intended to kill them(ie. Haditha) it's not a war crime. Whether the war is legal or not holding the CinC responsible because a guided missile had a software problem and hit the wrong building(just an example), is BS. You really need to start looking up international law. Yes the CinC and all others in command are responsible for everything that happens in a war they instigate, including all deaths.

Anti-US propaganda, you mean like pointing out the countless millions of lives the US has cost the world? Its various terrorist acts and war crimes both past and present? What the US should do if it didn't completely disregard universal truisms and international laws? Yeah... you seem to have trouble differentiating between propaganda and widely understood facts, but that is the US education system and culture for you. You also have jumped to the conclusion I don’t want the US to prosper, which is unfounded. I just don’t want it to prosper at the cost of millions of lives, which it has done and still does and at the cost of billions of people’s quality of life, which it currently does too. But of course criticism of your state requires you to use authortarian buzzwords like anti-american and turn the blinkers on as you have just stated, so goodluck with that and I am sure I will see you around here somewhere crying 'why' when the next terror attack happens. Oh yeah its also funny that you pick only one part of my response and go off on an unrelated rant and reduce things like Iraqi opinion on foreign occupation to propaganda.

I don't remember Hitler being close friends with the U.S Good luck getting anyone to recognize these here. Why? Because some of us are quick to point out the rank hypocrisy and forgetfulness towards the long list of US committed crimes? No I think we can all agree Pol Pot was not very nice, the difference is some of us don't have blinkers on that exclude scrutinizing western action in the same way.

"Encouraging democracies in the middle east is a noble goal" That mainly. Already have Anti west jihadism is the minority amongst Islamic jihadism and you certainly don't fight it by invading two countries and committing far greater acts of terrorism Maybe they are maybe they are not and even providing evidence for this is irrelevant given that withdrawing from Iraq should be determined by the Iraqi people which polls put at anywhere between 80% - 95% wanting foreign occupation of their country to end. So killing civilians to make the democratic party look bad is irrelevant and stupid in the grand scheme of things. I thought we were talking about Iraq It's pretty easy to explain where you are screwed up in the present as well. Here is where you go from here, presuming you want to follow international law, do exactly what the Iraqi people want, leave. Like Israel we could turn this into a thread on its own. What will happen to radical Islam in Iraq, well the Iraqi people do not need radical Islam to validate resentment towards a country that invaded them and what will happen to Iraq after you leave, assuming you will one day listen to the Iraqi people and world opinion, is being discussed in two new threads right now.

Between the Mongols, the Ottomans, the British and the now the U.S they haven't really had a chance to.

It makes perfect sense. If you manipulate or exploit people for your personal benefit then you should understand that they will probably get upset and resist and try to retaliate. And if you read the links that you posted yesterday on the PFAW site it should be quite obvious. Keep reading, you are/were heading in the right direction. The highlighted portion shows your arrogance. Makes no sense? Arrogance? I will spell it out even simpler for you. If you fuck people over they will eventually fuck you back. As is the case with terrorism against the U.S. Should we leave? A country that is crawling with terrorist. Whose fault is that? Probably about 100 years of American and Brits exploiting them or 50 years of Israel blowing them up. Arabs wake up wishing Arabs were dead? The people of the countries exploited wake up wishing the exploiters were dead. Whether Saddam wanted that or not is irrelevant given that he never said it and was not capable of it. Iran have also never said it but are completely justified in all hostility and skepticism towards the U.S and Britain given that they have fucked Iran over for 100 years politically and economically and recently invaded Iran’s neighbour and are now constantly showing hostility towards them by openly talking about bombing them. Nope that was completely debunked There is a real easy way to stop terrorism and that is stop participating in it, that generally reduces it dramatically.

Yet they weren’t there pre-2003 Yet it had one pre-2003 O'rly Mr Intelligence agency? You know they went to "start a civil war"? That is fascinating intel you have. Condescending for someone who appears not to know much about almost every subject he speaks on.

So a puppet U.S government like it already has? Iraq launched a jihad against the U.S? I must have missed this memo from fantasy land

Something the U.S have never done...

from?

How so? Because it’s a bunch of crap that bares no truth to the realities of U.S politics and power.

What a bunch of crap

...told ya

Youtube has a wealth of Chomsky videos

At least he doesn't come off sounding like a fucking idiot who over used the dictionary in replace of a counter arguement

Yes that does apply to a broad set of orders when the order is invade another country and invading another country is a supreme act of aggression and against all international laws. Yes it does, if you looked up international laws you wouldn’t even argue the point but I suspect it is a self-justification mechanism seeing as you are stuck there What Saddam did or didn’t do is irrelevant, he ruled a sovereign country and you broke all international laws, went against world opinion, and invaded. Occupying forces have NO legal rights the only things they have are obligations. Seeing as you had no legal right to invade and occupy I suspect you will fire back regardless of the law. However Iraqi people have every right to resist the invasion and occupation of their land and that includes killing occupying forces. No you don’t have any rights. Occupying armies have no rights. Like I have already said, we live in a world where the U.S shit on who they want and universal moral laws such as ‘what is right for one is right for everyone’ don’t apply. So I never said you would be behind bars. You are still breaking pretty much the most serious laws on the planet and you have no legal rights under international law, you can either accept this or you can block it out and you seem to be blocking it out. I haven’t expressed any hate towards US soldiers in this thread I have merely pointed out what international law says. However as a general answer to a general enquiry I hate any soldier of an imperial force who do the power and economic dirty work of their nation state for over a century and rack up a kill tally of millions and millions of people and I consider them pieces of human garbage, it just happens the only imperial force lately is the U.S. A few hundred years ago I probably would have disliked the English, French, Dutch, etc.

They are examples of following the party line

Yes there is, all occupying forces in Iraq are breaking international law. Soldiers as established by Nuremberg principles are not exempt from these laws under the pretext of following orders Yes that is aggression, if you have invaded and occupied his lands, which you have.