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For someone who developed another site because of JO - you sure do spent a lot of time on this thread...with trivia and not with anything of substance. If you want substance find the post I made last night or early this morning! You wanted to be able to discuss Cooper without JO, well you have your OTHER site so why don't you just post there. It is the same problem you had from get go. Bruce, you and Blevins deserve each other. I would like see a category on the other thread so those who think the jumper had connections to the past could post. Explore Cooper's motive and you will find Cooper! No crazies or unexplained one liners. 4 paragraphs with a line or word max....Jo Weber should be allowed to post only in that category. What was Coopers motive? In other words they have to find something that might show a connection. No subjects out of the age category & description category...THAT WOULD RULE OUT Blevins and his subject. Such as Mafia - a spook for an underground operation to infiltrate the Mafia & the unions, was CIA, was covert, was a lone man, was a terminally ill man, was part of a N.W./CIA operations, was covert and/or was connected to some organization or group. No long rambling conjecture - but in 4 paragraphs not to exceed a certain # of words or lines to support their claim. Gotta Go, but I will be back later tonight or in the morning to see if anyone has any ideas about the post I made last night after taking my pill. OUTSIDE of Don't Post after you take your pill! The truth has been right in front of the FBI and U guys all of these YRS, but it was a CKRET! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

FUNNY Georger! NOW another serious QUESTION. I have what I think are the record of Richard Peterson who became known as PaperLegs. His history and background match with the history and background of Weber (leaving out the prison stays). Army Serial Number 35345519 Richard E. Petersen Ohio, County Ottawa Place of Enlistment - OHIO Enlisted Oct 27, 1942 - same as Duane Weber - both in OHIO. WAS this statement standard: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or other wise according to law. Nativity OHIO / Duane was born in Lorrain, Ohio. 1 yr of high school I am NOT supposed to KNOW this! RIGHT!. YET, the FBI nor any of you folks could connect Weber with Paperlegs. Duane was there because Paperlegs requested him...No one even wants to discuss Paperlegs and the work he did. Why did Duane pay him a visit in 1980 after our trip to WA and Why was the money found in Feb of 1980. Why did Weber skip out on a good job in 1980 leaving his family behind. Weber had already left a little gift at the home of Paperlegs. Go ahead and cause this is probably not even the right Petersen. I am just tired of all the F------around the FBI or what ever Goverment office conceals secrets. What the hell does it mean now - Intermountain was how many yrs ago? 1962 to 1971 - isn't 43 yrs long enough to keep SECRETS. Why do you guys think the FBI allowed an agent to come on a public forum and use the code word for CKRET. Intermountian trained guys ended up on Covert operations. They could NOT be military - the had to be renegades...BLACK OPPS would be a good name...but I think that applied to something else - I forgot What Black Opps was! Talk about the Nine Mile Training Camp in Missoula, The Golden Knights, find a picture ofWalter Clark regard University of Montana, Trinity Alps of N. C. (Duane went to N.C. supposedly because of a guy who came to the Atl, GA office in 1970 who knew Weber as John Dusty Collins. Vince - said Let get this show on the Road...same thing Duane said before he died...with a storm raging out side - For 2 nights straight the rain poured and the wind blew...Duane died on the 3 day when the storm had passed. Talk about the GRAND Cooley Dam & Soup Lake and Sgt Mike Murphy and Bob Brady and Vince Greco and Grant Olson. Vince Grecco expelled Rusty Pyser because he was farsighted why he over shot and someone died - I think a man by the name of Murphy. NOW guy are you prepared for this? DO your own DAMN research and maybe things I just mentioned are ALL true - I have a pill in me right now so forgive my errors - I am tired of all of the SHIT our government has thrown out & WHY the hell hide things at this late date. They are still hiding stuff and our boys come home all messed up - we just had another one kill himself. Enough is enough. The ones incharge blame themselves when this happens...and a lot of it is because THEY can't talk about WHAT they did over there. Well if they can't talk about it - maybe the GOVERNMENT needs to rethink what they are doing to the guys the send over and how they come back. YEA! Jo is mad as hell tonight and looked back at what happened 40 & 50 yrs ago when it all began - the secret stuff. Well, with those secrets & the images in their minds, they come home & get in their car and blow their brains out...leaving a wife and children behind. OR they just go berserk & start killing anyone in their path untll some one takes them down. Sick world and we sit here on the computer trying to solve an 43 yrs old case becuase of SECRETS! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

File reduction - Catch it if you can - maybe they lead to the finally of Dan Cooper. This may have been discussed in the thread. I was chasing the name Ken Neustel and Craven - names from the past of Weber. This was in an old article by Bob Jones called MidWeek - Jump & Hope. This may have been provided to me due to an inquiry in this thread. Dated April 28 2006 & I printed it in 2010. ThI am only going to gloss over what I found important that connects to the life of Duane L. Weber & things and people he mentioned. I was looking for the name Ken Neustel and the name Craven. One of you guys sent this to me in 2010. The man is talking about skydiving & some of the odd MIS-Haps along the way. He mentions individuals & incidents from his past that went hand in hand with things I was trying to find since 1998 after the FBI basically rebuffed me. Remember I found faults with the investigation & the FBI had to address some of these in 2001 - and as late as 2007. SOME they have NEVER addressed. Mr. Jones talks about his experiences & mentions having damaged his knees when the ancient TU-7 parachute didn't land you on tippy-toes as the new para-sails do today. The parts of his article that interested me are "I still daydream of April 29, 1967, when I leaped from 22,640 feet over Kunia on oxygen with

It's easy to get into a game of semantics here. Technically, it would be a hypothesis and not a theory. Much of your case, though, could be used to link Kenny and Bernie to ANY unsolved crime from that weekend. However, you're still stuck with same problem. Kenny was too short, too bald and had the wrong color eyes. (edited for space) I'm not saying it's not possible, or you're not allowed to have your own hypothesis. You are. I just wish you were more tolerant of others' hypotheses. Very WELL stated Mark! If he would just STOP trying to sell his book I wouldn't have any problems - but it is promotion after promotion which is the defense of what he wrote - which HE has to KNOW is SCREWED up or enhanced to make a story. GUYS! Sorry about my post being in all blue I couldn't sleep and made the mistake of getting up and getting on the computer! BAD THING! To late to fix the post. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Damn SHAME! You and I are continually attacked by Bruce & I was on vacation because of him. He started another site & I was TOLD it was Bruce who didn't want me there after Shutter took over. I only want to read & that is available to me. I thought Bruce would mind his manners, but he comes to the DZ & continues his insults regarding JO & others. Thought that was why he was building his own site! He comes here and does NOTHING but TRASH Jo. As for my speaking of myself in the third person - what is wrong with that when Jo needs to make a point. Bruce only comes here to agitate! He doesn't wear his social mask in the DZ. Cook and BS deserve each other! Bruce does not make insulting remarks in the other thread - he uses the DZ to do that. The flight path study is great & those guys do NOT agree, but they converse without insults & are working to solve technical problems without interference from the man on the street selling his wares. They are trying to make the flight path a little more concise & after they finish hopefully they will post a summary on the DZ. Both of those guys are brilliant & grounded. They can have civil productive disucussions about subjects they are familiar with....and with NO insults or Name Calling. Bruce - if you can't be nice go home! Keep the opinionated negative agitating postings out of the DZ. Get a life! What you do HERE is why U do NOT have a girl friend. As for my driving - I was driving a rented SUV with controls in the wrong places for me. I have my gears on the steering wheel. A very bad right shoulder & the movement with the gear on the floor require shoulder movement and neck muscles. When you get older you might find that movement rather difficult eespecially if you have had an auto accident with mulitple injuries to those part of youy body. The new car designers forgot to make a senior friendly SUVs why there are so many accidents with new cars and seniors. The seating is also NOT senior friendly - the rise on the sides of the seats are very painful for those with sciatica nerve problems.....very few make it over 70 without sciatica problems. The contour of the seats are not right for old curved spines and too hard and have a fabric that does NOT allow us to slide other than leather and leather does NOT give enough for old hips...and nerve damage. So I just keep putting money in to my old 10 yr plus SUV. She has 76 k on her and she needs a new differential - 4k plus if they can find one. Problem was they were aware of this BEFORE she went out of Warranty. I contacted the Buick manufacturer but the haven't done one thing about it - offered me 500 off a new car....Well, you know what they can do with that offer - plus I do NOT need all of the distraction on the new cars. but I need the power seats....SEEMS like I would have to spend 10 K plus just to get the power seats and telescoping steering wheel. The other technology I do NOT need or want and cannot afford. First 25K SUV to offer the soft powerseats and telescoping steering wheel and give us senior an option on the gear location...I will buy it. They want 25 for a vehicle that is 2 yrs old with 60K on it... New differencial, New shocks, Reline the breaks and replace the VALVE GASKETS - 10 k and I got a new car... The only seat with any wear on it is my seat - maybe I could get it reupholstered. Garage kept so the everything else is immaculent. Guess I better replace the belt considering its age. Need a new car, but the manufacturers are NOT listening to the seniors. All for the kids now. With my luck I could spend 10 k on my Rondy and someone would hit it causing enough damage the insurance company would total it. Then I would be out that 10K and no new car. I founnd on I can drive but they want 55 K for that baby. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Young Man - I do not think you are actually a teenager with a problem. I think you are Blevins or someone he knows feeding this to the thread, pretending to be someone with a disability. I know a lot about the erratic behavior & speech that goes with certain problems & YOU are NOT fitting the profile at all. Just how or why were you at the site when the program was recorded? This defies most logic unless you are the son of one of the film crew or who currently owned the land & house. Surely you do NOT drive because NO way would we let my 24 yr grand-daughter drive. She's quick with the computer & gaming, but lacks COMMON sense about certain things. She also has a growth problem so she is only 4'5" and with many health issues on top of the disability. She could not get a diploma because she does not comprehend math or count money. She is not big enough or strong enough to stock so no one will employe her. She volunteers for the childrens theatre helping with the sets and the prompting... the rest of her life evolves around the computer. She games all over the world. She also is a very good artist, but without the diploma or its equivalent she could not go to art school. She wants very badly to advance with her art and she could probably support herself with the art as a free lance. She reads the newspaper from front to back everyday -and talks about these things with others. She gets distracted & then she can't focus on the common sense things the simple things in life. You do know that Kenney was only 5ft 8in & had hazel eyes and and had a serious receding hair line...NO toupe in those days could have provided on his head what the artist drew....there was NO indications Cooper had on a hair piece or wig or platform shoe or any other item that might indicate a disquise in height. Pretty hard in 1971 to miss a man who was about 6 ft. I was 31 at that time and I wore heels very much like the steward did but at 5'7" myself in 1971....believe me I knew when a man was only 5'8" I married one! He had a complex about it and referred to me as a GD giraffe....so I personally vouch for the height of the skyjumper and stewardess wearing a 1-1/4 inch heels which was the standard for a stewardess in 1971. They knew when the man was under 5'9"... If you are truely what you say - then think about this. A plane is a confined area...and Cooper stood up and the girls had to look up at Cooper (simple deduction - Cooper was much taller than 5'8 ") My pm's are open to you if you really want to talk and I don't mean about Cooper. I also want to KNOW the answer to the question I asked you about why you were present when the crew was filming! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Listen up BRUCE SMITH - I am not allowed to post on the other thread because U refused - it was YOUR CHOICE. You come here & SAY BAD things about me - remember you got put on vacation. They created the other thread & I can't post there because of you won't sign off. You come here to the DZ to aggitate...I RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED U not say one word about any post I made on the DZ & not to reference me in anyway. Your posting are now getting as sassy as they were before. I personally spoke to Lyle not one time but several times over the yrs - and he stated more than ONE time that He was watching a TV program about Cooper and he thought it would make a GOOD STORY...why he mailed his request to a movie producer who turned it over to Skip. By the way MAYBE part of this is on a RECORDER! You know he has had surgeries and that his mind is not as good as it used to be. YOU also know his wife is a writer...but, you will use anyone U can. "There is NO one to defend him - even Kyle his own brother says he was NOT Cooper." "He has repeatedly told other(s) - He thought it was a good story...why he sent his letter to a movie producer and not to SKIP or maybe SKIP is behind all of this. Maybe SKIP set all of this up - knowing that someone someday might want the crime to appear to have been solved..."] Maybe I have those statements on a recorder! You THINK? NONE of the people need to apologize to anyone - YOU are the ONLY ONE who has inflicted damage on the VICTIMS! You will say anything to get what you want & U only want to sell your story and why U are here along with Blevins. YOUR tactics are for the ENQUIRER - not for a book about REAL - everyday people. In fact the Enquirer has cleaned up their act - doubt they would even hire you as you would violate the protocol they use and they could get sued. TINA is not a public figure just because U think she is and that she OWES U an interview - SHE OWES U ZERO. U have not sent even ONE apology to any of the people whose lives you disrupted and for the lies & bad things you said about them. Does Tina and her family know about the THINGS U wrote about them in your BOOK and have they signed off? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

To everyone: PLEASE HEAR ME & WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY! PLEASE LISTEN * TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TELLING YOU. I WILL NOT HAVE A VOICE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ASK THEM NOW! To Blevins: [RED]BLEVINS SHUT UP! You do not care about this case being solved - all you want is the fame and you have no scruples - you are accusing an innocent man of a crime he did not commit.[/RED] WHAT IS THE CRIME? YOU KNOW HE DID NOT DO IT AND THAT HE DOES NOT EVEN MEET THE NECESSARY CRITERIOR OF EYE COLOR or COMPLEXION or HEIGHT! There is NO one to defend him - even Kyle his own brother says he was NOT Cooper. He has repeatedly told other - He thought it was a good story...why he sent his letter to a movie producer and not to SKIP or maybe SKIP is behind all of this. Maybe SKIP set all of this up - knowing that someone someday might want the crime to appear to have been solved. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Remember all the places I tried to describe & talked about over the yrs. I was describing them in the sequences Duane showed these area, but never knew they were in the flight path. NOW will try to do this as I have an overlay of the flight path on a map which I then marked the specific places Cooper took me to, but NOT in the order they appeared on the map. The Vortac is in Meadow Glade. Duane took me there after we had gone to areas East & North of there. He commented about an airstrip North of the VOR, but I did NOT see it & we had were then East of the VOR. I did not find the airstrip on the maps but was told it existed - perhaps for small private planes - a field. The Vortac was in the flight path. When we left there We passed a road that went SOUTH & Duane commented about Homan & he knowing someone who left a car there one time...but that "we were NOT going there". He goes EAST which I now believe to be UNION NE 119 and we ended up in the Orchards area. In the Orchards area he mentions a BAR (the name of which escapes me at this moment}. "A place the GUYS used to go". Then we go East again on the main HWY (the LOOP from Washougal to the Express Way) & we are going back toward Sifton which he had pointed out earlier on the leg of the trip going WEST (when he told me about the China Ditch earlier that day).... He again mentions the Airport on the South Side of the hwy. A small airport and what was South of that AIRPORT. The intersection of LARGE POWER LINES What else was behind it? It was the Green Mt. he had taken me to earlier that day...the ONE JT claimed did NOT exist!The tower Duane claimed he put something on one time...the Ghostly place at the top of a trail with a Wire fence (the old fashion kind) with big squares and a wooden gate. Tall ghostly Trees and large Rocks - made one think it resemble an old indiane burial ground. From the main highway I could see the airport.... a special kind of airport - you guys said did NOT exist until someone explained what it was - I was NOT delusional....and my Green Mt was behind it. We went EAST past Sifton & then we ended up going WEST again, but do not NOW remember where he turned around. We are on the new Hwy going EAST when he points out an area that was still vacant at that time. He mentioned there used to be a jumpfield there & he again mentions another car being left along the highway at that location. There was an airstrip near the jump field I could NOT see because of the trees. This was North of the Hwy....but Duane told me it was there. I found ALL of that DID exist as I saw it in 1979. In 2010 it was all built up. The man who owned it tried to help a man who tried to contact me in 2001...the man wanted immunity for information about Cooper. The state said he had to apply thru WA DC. He died in 2004. The name was the name - of the person I had searched for but the spelling was not how it sounded...so Margie and I dissed it. Even today the name escapes me - it was Indian for Jack and then the last name was a sound alike that I had searched for yrs to find in my memory banks. I finally learned the name - I have to look it up....& Georger did make a post which he deleted many yrs ago about this man. We continue on the road toward the Interstate & he AGAIN mentions Homan ....before we get to the access to the Interstate. Remember this & it does NOT take into consideration the things he showed me on the first leg of that trip when he took me to Heisson and north of there and the tower in the wood that was no longer there. WHY am I going to this part of my mind and the trip again....BECAUSE of the maps being used to retrace the flight path! THINK about this - the plane was in that area & making a turn in the Orchards area. Now consider the wind speeds & directions. Right before Orchards the plane was turning to the West just ever so slightly which then made the plane cross the Columbia in Vacouver. COOPER was ALREADY GONE BEFORE the PLANE reached the Columbia. I do not know how this explains the sighting of flares in the Mills Plains area, but COOPER was already gone. For YRS you guys have told me there was NO way & many of you have probagated the Columbia and Tena's Bar as the location the plane went over the Columbia. The plane would have had to make a drastic turn to be on the West side of the Interstate. Cooper was already gone by the time the plane reached the N.E. Plains road. If the lights were on in the cabin maybe the witnesses saw that - not flares. Cooper needed the lights on to prepare for the jump. Seriously doubt he would announce the time and location of his jump! THe money on Tena's bar was put there by Duane L. Weber in 1979. Does that make him Cooper? NO! Also NOTE the place Duane took me to on the return trip from Seattle. The place he went down to the RIVER where a house used to be that was not there in 1979. The FLIGHT went RIGHT over that per the flight maps. NOT Tena's bar. The flight wanted to put down in Portland, but with the fear of a bomb on board they could not...and they were NOT certain Cooper was gone..... PLEASE SOMEONE HEAR ME BEFORE I AM SILENCED & CAN NO LONGER TELL WHAT REALLY HAPPENED! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Portions of the above post have been edit to make this more brief and to the point. My health: I now sleep a lot and I am having more tests, but the out come will not be favorable....I am just a little more perceptive about my body than others. The surgery they would end up requiring is NOT one that I will do, because it only delays the inevitable and with serious debilitating consequences. We knew the Cancer Markers have remained high - now it looks like the focal point is the worse case senario! NOW about COOPER: Do you guys remember the places Duane talked about on our 1979 trip and all of the things he told me...well, they have ALL just fell into place. These points will not be in the order they were shown to me, but in order with the flight path and the possible landing zones for Cooper. I had NO idea the flight path went over or near these places until last night and then my vivid 2 part dream this afternoon (NON Cooper related dream), A two part dream was about a wonderful man who I fell in love with before I met Jim, but just let go of as he seemed to have a life that did not include me. He recently came back into my life and I concieved it as a final Goodbye to all of the people who had touched his life over the yrs. I did not verbalize this to him, but changed the subject. NOW back to Cooper and Duane L. Weber. Think I will put it in a second post as I need a few minutes to compose myself and I am crying right now. WHY so much so late! Damn the Government, just Damn them! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

After 3 evenings without a computer - I really do not feel I have to update others about what is going on. I am going to say - Duane Weber was telling the actual Truth when he said "I'm Dan Cooper!". In recent conversations with an old friend & my daughter the consensus is I have thrown way the last 17 yrs chasing this....A time I should have been finding new adventures & exploring & enjoying my life. In 2007 when my last husband died - I should have moved on, but there was this necessity to clear my name & prove I was not lieing about any of what I have told. It is now April 8th 2014. I wish Duane Weber had never told me "I'm Dan Cooper" and I wish I had never learned D.B.Cooper actually called himself Dan Cooper. It is bitter sweet & a double edge sword situation. All I have told is the truth so HELP me GOD! These last 8 yrs I should have been enjoying my life & living it to the fullest. Now I am in the very last phase of my life & with my health compromised to the point what is left of my life will not be much fun...therefore I have made some serious DECISIONS! I sacrificed the quality of my life to seek the truth. It is evident the system is so broken it cannot be fixed. Hopefully the USA government will finally reveal WHY they along with N.West Airlines felt the need to conceal the truth all of these yrs. The Government knew who Cooper was, but found it necessary to continue their charade. The FBI just didn't have a clue...the truth was put infront of them, but they did NOT GET it! Some of them GET it now! Cooper was not just the SKYJACKER who GOT away! It was a STATEMENT that flies in the face of the government. There was more than ONE man involved! More than ONE man pulled this escapade off! They did IT in the FACE of the government - knowing full well that Cooper could never be prosecuted without revealing the Governments dirty hands. How many of them were actually involved? One thing is for certain - THE Government was NOT going to touch them....if any of these guys had been revealed - our government could never SAVE face! As long as one of them was alive they could NOT tell "What Really Happened!" That is the story that Gunther should have told in 1985. Duane was the last man down! Or was he? Odd that certain ex-cons had such good jobs in their later yrs. They weren't rich, but they didn't lack for anything. One had died before 1979 and another died around 2004 after Duane died in 1995. He like Duane tried to tell his story, but didn't want to hurt his family in doing so! The public will be the judge and jury....America's Foundation is on trial! The truth is so bizzard NO one WILL ever believe it! Is this what Uncle Sam is banking on? With what is going on right now in DC - and world affairs - the last thing the Government needs is more of their DIRTY past thrown out there for the rest of the world to see and read about. Going public is the ONLY way the truth will ever be told! Not sure I have the time, but the story NEEDS to be told and it will be TOLD! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I can read the other thread, but I do not understand where the conversation is coming from on the Flight Path. Evidently someone (Homid) has overlayed a correct map with the co-ordinates. Can som one - Robt99 or Homid send me that map by regular email. Evidently it is different than what Sluggo had on his site. I need to be able to see what they have the site over laid with and to be able to have the roads below it the different parts. I want to see if any of this puts the FIGHT with the wind drift in the places Weber took me to and talked about. If someone will help me with this I would appreciate it. It may have to be done in segments to show me all of it. Please help me with this...I have detailed maps of the area and I want to be able to on my map to over lay the flight path. I also want to know the directions of the winds at specific points the flight was at. In other words I need for the roads with names to show under the flight path marks and then the direction of the wind at various point. You can send these to my regular email in segments I can print and then past together. I will appreciated this very much. Homes4ubyjo@aol.com. Also who is this VERN. Remember I have been searching for a Vern - but maybe I only used the last name. A guy contacted me - who scared me about a VERN, but he was on a fishing expedition to find out the last name of my Vern which I did NOT give because I didn't know if the son & the father had the same last name... I just thought it odd up and pops a Vern in Galen Cooks and Georger's story. There is a sucker born everday and some of them are so hungry for a story they will bite on anything. The man contacting me used many names and finally I got rid of him. Then he showed up in the thread using two other identities, but kept changing his story. I will be more than willing to provide copies of ALL of the crap the man sent me...and I played along with him to see how far he would go. He first contacted me in the early part of 2013 and then when Gossett got killed he went under for a while and then started up again. Then later in 2013 he showed up in this thread with 2 other indenties...both on a fishing expedition. Now he is on the other site fishing if it is the same man. Might have been GC all of the time - I had a suspicion about that but did NOT voice it. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

If you posted my remark I hope U clean up my grammar and other words. The guy asked a question and I didn't like YOUR bias self promoting answer. Per what you sent me long ago about what you said about me in your BOOK - Weber was glossed over. So I took the opportunity to have my say. NOT much time left to finish my mission and since I had NO other VOICE I was going to use your Mountain News...how much did you change it if you even posted it? Maybe you have a reader out there in WA who might be interested in seeing the Jeffernson frontal versus a sepia of the Composite ( the good one ) and another picture of WEBER of MY choosing. ALL three side by side....someone might show it to their Grandmother or grandfather and maybe someone will remember that man. The general public has never seen that picture with the one composite that is reliable and another picture of Weber before the crime....PUT them together and they are STRIKING. I DO NOT mean the BING composite..that one is very far off and the artist will tell you it was NOT the one the witnesses chose. My computer is being picked up tomorrow so I won't have a way of doing them & it will take some work - to do the 3 in one row - I believe MIGHT get someones attention! IF you posted the pics in the format that I would provide - maybe just maybe you could help solve the damn thing - but not with opinionated remarks. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

DARN U Georger! U would have to pick on a song Duane sang so very well! I was already crying and now I am bawling. But, it did make me smile remembering Duane singing that song. He sang it better than Sinatra or anyone else who ever recorded it. His voice was powerful and he did NOT even need a microphone. Remembering his singing - is one of the GOOD memories I have. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Guess dial up and my old windows XP are obsolete, but it is all I have. Can't afford anything on top of the unlimited long distance on line and do not want to be without phone service when there is a hurricane....land line is all we have during and after a hurricane. Technology for got about MOTHER NATURE and how isolated we would be after a severe hurricane and with no power or towers for days. I do not even know what is wrong with my browser or what it is. DUMB old me! Just do the same ole thing all the time. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

It will TAKE discipline on the part of those who drove the general population away! How do the rest of you feel? THE most important guys are the ones working on the flight path....I personally would like to see their work in a public thread like this one with a specific goal - one open to be read by anyone interested...not just a select group. If the public can't read their site - then what is the point of such a site? The focal point becomes very narrow and the results will never be known to those who really want to know - HOW Cooper GOT Away! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I'm sure at the beginning of this thread, it was started with the best intentions. But take a deep breath - try and look at the last X number of pages objectively and I hope you can see that the DB Cooper thread has turned into a train wreck. What do we do about it? If NOT for Blevins the guys with the knowledge & intellectual & technical conversations would be able to discuss things here. When the discussions became technical and interesting - I tried not to interfer... others including myself with our banter would enter breaking up the line of thought. I tried to stay out of those discussions...because these guy at least KNEW what the were talking about. Repetitive promotional postings destroyed the purpose of the thread. Attacks made by certain individuals became more agressive & required defensive postings. The Fight Path is the most interesting thing to come down the pipe in a long time - and the general public cannot even read what is going on with that site because of BLEVINS. It had to become a PRIVATE site that the public will never see. Spending all of that time on technical aspects of this crime could not be done here - because of "others" is such a waste. Those discussions should have taken place here at the DZ in the first REAL Cooper thread to exist to serve that purpose. Perhaps even Sluggo would come back if "others" including myself let them explore the things needed to have been discussed yrs ago. Such a waste! All of that research will never be seen or read by the general population The DZ is & remains the RIGHT place for it to reach a population with the interest & the knowledge to finally solve this old crime. Such a waste of a lot of aviation talent. A Talent which needs to be combined with the expertise of the jumpers in the DZ & those who are familiar with the WA area for jumping. A site available to the general public and not a private site for only those who are posting. The flight path information should have happened here at the DZ. The DZ has the exposure these guys need ....and with the input of other & pilots in a public place to offer their assistance. The General public will never have access to all of the information regarding the flight studies nor the input of older jumpers and other pilots who are able to offer their opinions and techical assistance here in the DZ. I want them back at the DZ! If some of us have to sit out & limit our postings I am all for it. Promoting a book other than the initial annoucement should NEVER be allowed. Also doing a copy of the entire posting being replied to is a waste of space...choose only those part being addressed. If someone wants to promote a book or a movie - the DZ I am sure could use the income for paid advertisements. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Knoss, YOU damaged the cause more than any one human being ever to broach the subject of Cooper, outside of Blevins. You were FED falsehoods & bait by me to see exactly what you would do...your story was unbelievable. I can prove every piece of bait I threw you - I copied every email I sent to you to DOUG. The bait was highlighted! Then your replies that usually came weeks later after you dreamt something up. My mistake was doing the TRUTH GAME with you. BUT, I made sure Doug was aware of everything I fed the Monkey. Doug was WELL aware of this & I was told you were a MENTAL case by parties I will not name, but I kept hoping there was a small amount of truth in your TALES. Like Pinocchio your NOSE GREW AND GREW AND GREW! Pinocchio, the monkey is REALLY a weird looking character. UN-DESCRIBABLE other than as a Cartoon Character who SQUAWKS in gibberish. GO back to BED. This is almost over and the last thing needed are your psychotic ramblings. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

At least my rent would be paid for. I have a question for you - in case of my incarceration, do I still receive my social security check? That is a question for 377! I want the bickering to stop - this is my only voice and it is your not wanting me to be registered on that thread that keeps me from viewing. I do NOT want to post as I can contact the individual I need to speak with thru a PM on this thread. The only section I want cleared to read is the Flight Path! What gets you in trouble is your being a BULLY and yet, make like a baby if someone stands up to you. Bullies are the first who get accused of abusive actions, but others usually pay the price. YOU are the only reason I cannot register at the site! You denied me permission to do so. So do NOT be offended when others who have spent a large majority of their livelyhood investigating this old crime become offensive toward you. When you abuse others - expect to be accused of actions you might not have committed. I did NOT know until tonight you had been accused of making the calls Blevins stated...U need to ask YOURSELF why you get picked on. Maybe it is because you come across as being offensive and your tactics with interviews leaves little to be desired and definitely NOT productive. When you change the events of the actual interview & appear on someone's door step without notification - that is crude and rude and offensive. U are the one who needs to publically apologize for your past & current actions. Most of the people you have attempted to interview have rebuffed you - ASK yourself WHY! You should also send a letter of apology to each and everyone of them. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins & the bickering with Georger is why they have another site. BRUCE does NOT want me there, but he does NOT seem to have a problem coming to this site to quip. They had to BLOCK Blevins from doing the SNAP Shots of their pages - Shutter hasn't figured out how to keep Blevins out & allow me to view only (I do not want to POST there). The only part I want to view is the Flight Path...It is way over my head, but I enjoy reading what they are doing. I have Maps Sluggo gave me & Maps sent to me by another party - NO WAY to scan those huge things and get into a format for them. Health permitting I will be making one FINAL trip to WA. The flight ticket will be all I can afford & will have to depend on the hospitality of those who live in the area....and some kind of cheap transportation. If what I learned today is true - it might be all expenses paid. I am interested is what the other thread is discussing with the flight path that falls within the area's Duane showed me and took me to. This time I want a historian and people with pictures taken from 1971 to 1979...I have to do this for peace of mind. Then I will leave a little of Duane in each of those places and the rest thrown from a plane. He will be in the places he seemingly experience the best parts of his life. I have asked on the thread if anyone could do certain property record searches for me but no takers. Topper Dr, Lieser Point and Image Lane - all three along the Columbia river...name of property owners from 1940 to 1971....no need for property owner after 1971. Blevins and Georger: I am kindly asking the two of you to stop engaging each other. The continued bickering will only cause me to loose the only voice I have had in the Cooper search. Blevins - KC was NOT Cooper and you know that....and the longer U make the claim the worse the FALL is going to be. The witnesses are tired of being hounded by Bruce, Blevins and Knoss and others. Not one of you put yourselves in their shoes. Blevins - you do KNOW that your witnesses have disputed your claims? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You tell your ridiculous stories anywhere about the witnesses or your projections about their mental health you are going to end up in JAIL....fair warning! Jail food is NOT good for you health & the process to cease and decease has already started. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What a mess. I have been busy with important things & old friends, but you guys have your hand full with Blevins. His postings are so damn boring & repetitive, he has driven everyone away...including me. The guys working on the landing zone the last time I read the posting over there was really good. I do NOT agree with all of it but, at least it is an intelligent conversation without all of the prostelizing of an UNLIKELY suspect. Jo Weber was open to seeing resolutions in this case...but, now I have officially been informed that the truth, NO ONE ever will know. Today was a bitter sweet - AND no one will ever know the REAL truth about Cooper. Saying good bye to an old friend is hard to do. I have 2 more tests & if those are CLEAN - I am hitting the road. Wish I had the nerve to sell everything & live out of an RV pulling a small vehicle and just go to all the places I want & places I have been. I am not able to do that alone - ANY takers out there who want to do the same thing and just see the world until time comes to an end? Must be financially sound and not have heavy family ties. To just go where the wind takes us. Just live each day to the fullest and not look back, but have each other to depend on till it is time to leave for a better place. Yea, I am a sentimental jerk, but tired of being alone and tired of fighting this endless battle - especially with the propagators of myths such as Blevins. Wasted a lot of good yrs trying to make the truth known. The real truth is something you guys will never know - and you can take that to the bank. Our government has kept many secrets. NOT just about Cooper, but other things linked to Cooper.... The real truth is buried because it has to stay buried....as the truth would only open up things that can never be revealed. Not only is the truth buried, but any files pertaining to the backgrounds and activities of certain individuals have been destroyed. Blevins time to move on - Kenny was NOT Cooper. One might hope there are clues left that where hidden. I stupidly revealed locations of clues & they were found & destroyed. One person involved in this chase from the time I became public - made sure NOTHING survived. NONE of U will ever know or believe the truth! There was only ONE Cooper & he will remain an unknown till the end of time. How appropriate today was for the Cooper Story. Write all the books you want and spend you life searching for anwers - but, no evidence remains and the "witness" cannot help you so leave them alone! What they had to say & what the FBI made public is ALL you will ever know! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have that map and everything Duane told me was right there. I drew the lines on another map I had and it is right there. Basket Flats (not going to look it up to see if that is the correct name). I just above the Heisson Store and the Heisson store was broke into thru a bathroom window. Then it is easy to see how Cooper made it out of the area as fast as he did. I am not capable of doing the overlays for a computer and the maps are very large. I just took the lines and lined them up on a real map and it is ALL there. I did this YEARS ago....with Maps Sluggo gave me and with other maps I acquired. NOTE that Duane was specific in pointing out towers and creeks and trails - maybe he was part of the search crew - HOW unlikely is that? Oh, Well, just dumb stupid old woman - what do I know? I have told about the China ditch and Matley creek and a cabin there....but this was a couple of days later. You know the power lines are all there and the pipelines - much of which could be walked thru because they had NOT over grown. If Cooper made it out of the search zone undected. He was clear and on his way to a phone to arrange a pick up...All he had to get to was towers he had stowed away transmitters so he could contact the others. The oddest thing Duane said was that at a specific - a tower on a hill that he put something there one time. It was something on that tower at one time...a signal transmitter is how I interperted it but do not remember the words he said. If someone said the words I might come back to me. Locator maybe, but that doesn't sound right. Hell, none of us know what Weber was capable of - but he knew his way around equipment and CB's, walkie talkies, ham radias and Tower transmitters and power lines and creeks and places of interest in this case. There was NO way this man made up the things he told me and they all come into play with possible ways Cooper escaped. Every one of them are there. If he made it to Basket Flats there is a creek just east of there. One could walk that creek all the way to places there were jeep trails in 1971. The jeep trails in 1971 connnected to road that cut over to a road that went to Elkhon Mtn and froun there you could make it toa a road that went thru the old Camp Bonneville Reservation and right on down to Ireland. ALL places Duane talked about. He knew some who lived in Ireland and Ireland was in the cross roads of the power lines. At that point you could go East or west walking under the power lines he chos to go West which put him at Green Mt and then take the South East power line down to Green Mt. which was in walking distance of the 3 fishing cabins and the Old mansion on and remember he said he knew the care taker at the Mansion farms. All of this is where the OLD grave Yard of Rock stood about a hill - The green MT that Jerry claimed did NOT exist. Maybe in 1945 Duane Weber helped build all of that stuff, but some of it was not there in 1945 to 1949 much of the time that seems to be lost in his history. He was a runaway from a camp - so where did he go. I am just rambling in my thought tonight and that damn Map you posted Georger I have....I believe it was Sluggo who gave me this map. Cooper could have been in the area for days hiding here and there in this or that old empty hunting cabin, but always keeping on the move....till he got to LaCames lake. If I was to put the rest of the story together he then made it to the marina thru the land on the other side of the lake and down to the Marina and stole a boat ---- but that story was supposedly with the boys. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber