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One would have thought the FBI would have examined the chute to verify what they were told by Cossey. It is still NOT too late as the FBI still has the amboy chute. Surely there is a simple test to perform to verify - silk or nylon! I feel no one was given actually access to this chute other than the FBI and Cossey, I wouldn't be surprised if they had "lost" the chute by now...just like they "lost" the smokes. I was never able to pin point exactly where that Chute was found....and like many others was under the impression it was Pink. Would someone please explain to me where the Damned Pink Chute came from - the one with the numbers certainly is not pink? This is ALL twisted up. I stayed out of the Amboy discussion because what I know about chutes you can put on a pin head. If the public was lied to - WHY? Or does Silk versus Nylon mean anything as far as Cossey not identifing the chute? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger Stated: So you ARE FBI or where involved with the research - Liar Liar Pants on Fire.

Georger said:

Blevins stated: Please let me know what your source was on this paper bag statement. I believe I am NOT the only one who is interested in this...as NO container has been listed publically regarding the Tena's Bar finding other than what I said happened in 1979. In 1979 is when Duane and I went to WA and when he threw a paper bag into the Columbia from the back of the Red Lion Inn at the foot of the I-5 bridge from the Vancouver side. NO one has ever substantiated to me that the money found had actually been in a paper bag. What is your source on this story? The Guys who where at the river and studied the money have not said one word about this in the forum or publically else where that I am aware of. Do not know if this was in the 1980 Palmer report, but if it was - that also has never been disclosed. I think you are BS'ing or someone is FEEDING you something laced with fiction or hearsay. Perhaps you have been caught up in the fiction versus fact syndrome - this is something I see happening over and over...until someone says as Georger has stated "where's your proof". I don't remember if that is his exact quote, but something similar. Sorry Georger if I don't have it exactly right...I know you are touchy about those things (just didn't want to search for your exact quote). Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The BS surely does stop at the door. Parachutists know this well. Georger has jumped. He knows the feeling. 377

Days of Wine and Roses - Andy Williams 1963.

What-ever it is I can't open it. I was not even beenable to open anything in DZ except this thread. Something about a "fetchrow hashref" and I have no idea what that is or what to do. It costs me $125. for a guy to come out and fix these things. I went to settings, but don't have a clue what to do. I knew we had a picture and somethings on Rakestraw in this thread, but what I need to find out is if he ever spelled Rakestraw and not Rackstraw and where he was living in 1980. It is not that I am NOT reading, but I can't open the sites. One of the threads in History and Trivia has a list of jumpers and I have some names to compare against that list....but this is the only thread I can open. I know it is ODD - I am asking where this guy lived and if he was alive in 1980...but it is NOT like I am "writing" a book that is being published with "Obvious" mistakes. For Heaven's Sake, Sluggo this is what Orange always did. I corrected Blevins in a NICE way - because regardless of my opinions about his Suspect, the facts need to be correct - if you fictionalize the Facts then the complete book becomes Fiction. You will note that I only point out the obvious to him. If he was unaware of what has been going on in WA the last couple of Weeks then he has his head in a bucket or something. I live clear across the country and yet I knew what was happening on Blevins backdoor. PS I finally got that site open on sluggo's site, but somewhere there was picture of him and I need to know MORE about him. If he used variations of his name and the locations he may have lived in around 1979 and 1980. Rakestraw came up in something We are working on - not Rackstraw. But considering he was a con man - I need to know more about him...and the fact it is an unusual name. Anyone know any jumpers with these last names living in WA. in 1979 and 1980. Benny and Brent Ray, Bob Reynolds, Bernice Renenker, Bill Richardson, Bud Richey, Bob Roberts, B or Bobby Ross and Bob Rutledge. We have been chasing something for a while now...and these are some of the name that came up. Mostly common names - but if anyone knows about any of these coming up in regards to the Cooper investigation I need to know. For the most part the names are so common they mean nothing to me, but jumpers in the WA area might if there is someone who fits the name and what location they were in around 1979 and 1980. I just think this is a waste of time, but someone who is helping me thinks it is important. I need to find a jumper and/or pilot who lived in Wa around 1979 and 1980 and who probably lived in the area prior to that also. His or her initials will be BRR - it is crazy and it is a long shot. Maybe there was a suspect questioned with those initials. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yes, I am asking for help. Does anyone remember the name of a suspect who was questioned and then released. The name was something like Rakestraw. I don't remember it and cannot find the reference we made to this individual in the forum. HELP! I am not good as searching the word thing for the forum - it searches all the threads...and that was to much. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins said: Jo says:

Blevins stated:

Mr. Blevins:

I will settle just for finding the truth about the man I spent 17 yrs of my life with...and I am not a writer. I would think if one was so desperate for love or attention - there are other ways to acquire that. I know there have been lots of individuals who have made claims about Cooper and have written books, so I suppose they could just be looking for fame or attention......most just fade away in time...or their books end up collecting dust or being read by others seeking the same answers. Most of the individuals in this thread - just want to know the truth - regardless of who Cooper was. Since I have a personal interest - my drive and persistance is very annoying...to others who want only to write a book or toy with the theories on Cooper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Don't go yet. Was your above response to my post or someone else's? It seems to me we are both saying the same thing. I know I should have stayed away from this thread. Guru, You are right - both of you are saying the same thing. I didn't understand Councilman's retort either? Since he is new to the site maybe all this going back and forth got him flipflopped. I know they have me Totally Confused - but, for someone with Blonde roots that is REAL easy. Now they got me where I don't even know what color the Found chute was. You are right Guru ... I keep asking myself why I even bother to post here. I have a question for you, but I will P.M. it. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger,why are you so insulting? I have stated before I know nothing about chutes or jumping. All I did was ask a simple question for clarification since I did not understand what was being said. At least Guru understood what I was trying to enquire about and addressed the situtation without insulting me or making snide demeaning remarks. Guru is a jumper and you Georger are not. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Taking the above literally is questionable and confusing. I question the knowledge of Hanson and historian Laramie. Unless protocol was different in 1946 than it is now--which I doubt was the case--packing dates and repacking dates are not stamped on a parachute they are written in a packing data record card which is placed in a "pocket" of the container the rig is packed in. The only date I ever recall seeing stamped onto a canopy is the manufacturing date. All packing and maintenance data is on the packing data card. I defer to any Master Rigger who can correct my thoughts on this since I have only a Senior rating. Thank you for a good sensible answer - I just do not know why some people get so out of sort when I ask what I consider a reasonable question. If what they were saying about a packing date - was correct then the chute could not be Wallings, then who's was it? This was all I was enquiring about. Was simply asking for clarification of what I had read and what I thought I understood... and to find out if there could possibly be a misunderstanding about the dates that were reported and what these dated meant on that "pink" chute. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Really??? Isn't this the guy who put his first edition on the Internet FOR FREE in an effort to solicit responses which would improve the factual accuracy of subsequent publications? There is nothing wrong with being "JUST a writer for profit." You don't have to be a starving zealot to be a credible journalist. 377 You KNOW that is not how it is meant - What are you? Blevins promotionalist. I am stating his motive is entirely different than mine and that of others - he is a writer and not someone with a heavily invest effort in this in terms of yrs and peronal research. Blevins did not enter the Cooper story because of personal interest - his motive was to make money. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, Lawsuits rarely result in defending honor or a persons word. They just create a lot of expensive paperwork and enrich your counsel. Unless you are a movie star your defamation case is totally ignored by the public. Stop threatening suits. Either bring them or stop the bluffing. 377 Outside of one character who was abusive to me outside of this forum and the Scotts who hijacked the BuDop thing - who else have I yet had reason to sue? I believe those are the only 2 things within the context of this thread. There are a couple of other things certain individual know cannot be published and I am sure they will abide by the rule - but, so far they have been decent to me...and nothing has been published nor blabbed to the media. You can agree to disqualify any subject without causing damage to living parties. You do not do that by calling them names or smearing them. I have my personal opinions about Blevins, Grey, Tosaw, Himmelsback, Gunther, Cook and Mr X among many others who have written some pretty sleazy books on Cooper. Most of the writers had a long term personal interest in or were involved in the aftermath of Cooper. A book was just the end results due to demand or where the writers research took him. Some went too far - such as the writer whose name is not part of my vocabulary claiming McCoy was Cooper. He could claim McCoy was Cooper, but he should have drawn the line when he accused the wife of being a participant. You know she sued and it was settled out of court. Because he was so blatant and ball'sy in regards to the wife - his book was never a "have to read" regarding research into Cooper. I don't have a problem with Blevins other than his only agenda is selling a book for profit and he will write whatever it take to sell that book. Any writer who does that without doing his research is defacing not only himself, but the individuals he portrays in the book...without the proper research these people may have been led astray. Unlike Grey, Cook, Himmelsbach and Tosaw - Blevins is JUST a writer for profit. Cook got hooked yrs ago on Cooper. Grey got hooked accidentally and I think his book will be about how Cooper has affected the lives of others and not about solving the crime. Tosaw - it was all about the search for the money and of course Himmelsbach needs no explanation. There are countless people who have contacted me over the yrs. with their stories about Cooper and Weber - but, most of them did NOT pan out. There are 2 writers I could have let write Duane's story, but as you know I would NOT allow mistruths just to lure the readers. The first one was "On his deathbed he whispered". Please! That is NOT how it was. This man wrote 3 pages with hardly a word of truth. Just because I have principles does not mean others do - I will NOT allow something to be written that would cause damage to me or my children. What will be the Cats Meow is this: What will happen if the REAL Cooper is revealed by the authorities or by someone who was on the plane just about the time these books are on the store shelves. It won't be cats screaming, but wolves howling. Imagine what the public and media will do with that one - 3 books sitting on a shelf and suddenly the News Headlines read: "True Identity of D.B. Cooper Revealed by the FBI". "Witness positively puts 'subject' on the plane after new evidence revealed". Wake me up - I have to be dreaming! Oh, but I am awake. It must be someone else's Nightmare, Whew!

Terry, I caught that also, but figured someone had just made a mistake or that the chute did not belong to that pilot who walked out. I have heard of Old Chutes being used for shelter (from the sun or as a tent) when they were not useable to jump with. Would be interesting what Cossey has to say about this and to see the actual FBI documents on the found chute. It got very confusing when they talked about the belly packs. One was cut apart in order to obtain cords to secure his package. What about the chute inside - what did he do with that? Maybe he tossed it out the door. I got lost in that discussion - obviously as I have never even been close to a chute. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

yeah... all this tough talk about lawsuits but nothing ever happens. That's OK though, most litigation is a huge waste of time and money. It's better used as a threat than a weapon. I welcome Blevins and still support Jo's right to be here, although I disagree with her all the time. It's a numbers game. Cooper was a real person, not a Sasquatch. He lived somewhere. He had posessions. He had friends and relatives. Somebody somewhere has a valuable clue that has not yet been processed in the investigation. It could be a vehicle that was deemed abandoned and towed, a person who went missing right after Norjack but escaped FBI attention, etc. All this digging, even by Jo, widens the net. It doesnt guarantee that we will solve the case but it ups the odds as more people are contacted and are asked about events that occured around that time and in that area. I do think the Norjack case will be solved in my lifetime and that Amelia E's plane will be found as well. Just hunches from an optimistic jumper and aviation nut. 377 Georger said:

Note: You guys here at DZ know I do not usually defend someones position - but, with this I just couldn't help myself. The Devil Made Me Do IT. I caught the edit out part because it happened when Blevins was making some statements that I knew where NOT true. I have spoke to individuals interviewed by both Blevins and Porteous many times over the yrs. No, I do not mean the "characters" in his story. The characters he defined as "witnesses" - they were either accomplices or individuals who know the subject, but not "witnesses"...unless they were on the airplane or at the scene when it happened. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber