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Blevins is OK, but he consistently uses the same thing - he never adds anything new. He will go back and recite the same thing over. I am sure he is very astute with computers and just goes does some kind of search on his statements - and just goes too FAR with the promotion of his book instead of exploring any possibilites of why KC might not be Cooper. I cannot write a book - I wouldn't know where to start and do not have enough life span left to do so. This is WHY I decided to go back to my old emails and logs and post things I have never posted before. It is MY WAY of making sure or hoping that someday someone will find the clues the FBI missed and realized that Crazy Delusional OLD woman was right. The only other suspect I have seriously considered is Coffelt and later in my logs this will become clear to you. Not that Coffelt was Cooper but that he knew who was or Brown knew who was. I have noted the FBI and this thread has NOT actually addressed the Coffelt thing. I am the only one who had brought it up in the past few yrs. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger you are dead on! It has been 40 yrs and I believe the public has so convoluted the actual testimonies - to the point they might as well NOT exist. Tina's testimony never existed or that is what the naysayers would have us old folk to believe. I hope the picture I posted from the Fortune Magazine will make some of these individuals understand - that their way was NOT Cooper's WAY. Perhaps they are NOT OLD enough to know what the OLD WAY was. Posting the pic one more time. Matt - eat your words on this one! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

IF, "Cooper" had Military or Smoke Jumper training he would not have used that technique. IF, he was "trained" he would have kept the bag in place though out the landing as per the Standards for Rough Terrain Jumping. Lower the bag to hear the impact to prep for landing is a bit of a hit or miss "old wives tale", "urban legend". The lowering lines in the military and Forestry service are approximately 15', the rate of decent in 18' to 22' per second. You would have less than a second to react, your supposed to be prepared around 100', so you have about 4.5 seconds. Can one hear the impact? Sure, some do. Can some react to it? Sure some do, but it is a rarity. It is not even taught now a days, it is water cooler talk. If one made a rough terrain jump, and lowered the equipment as they drifted over the trees, the bag could catch or entangle, the parachute would continue to drift, and the jumper would be laid out horizontally from the bag to the canopy. This is dangerous to recover from. Jumpers are taught to keep all equipment on, for their protection as the pass through the trees! If they did lower the equipment prior to passing through the trees, they would jettison the gear to avoid the horizontal issue. I think the Felon may have had some training, but it was old and out of date, hence the old chute choice. I also don't think the bag of money was prepared for anything other than being carried all the way to the ground on the jumper. Based on the feet of cord used, it seems the Felon tied a sturdy knot or dozens and used a few wraps to hold the bag in place, but not enough was cut to make a lowering line or self extraction line. Matt Matt: All I did was state what the writer said in the article - BUT, you are wrong - the picture below is how they did it in 1968 - the picture Was in article about Vietnam that Duane left in a safe deposit box I had NO knowledge of until after his death. The receipt was in the found wallet in Duane's van. I had NO key. I presented myself at the bank with our marriage certificate and his will and his death certificate. There was ONLY one thing is that safety deposit box. A MAGAZINE - one with this pictures about Nam. View that photo and you will understand what I think the writer was actually trying to say. Worlds Greatest Jock Carrier was Duane's CB handle. I think of this everytime I see the attached pic...from Fortune Magazine. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I let them know I had an obligation to Doug Pasternak if I decided to travel that road, but first I wanted to see what the FBI was going to do....the 90 minutes segment had not even been done. In other words I was NOT going to leap on something and be made a fool out of. I put them off, but did ask a LOT of questions - I guess this pissed one of them off. There was one writer a friend of mine wanted me to talk to and put me in-touch with her. All I did was feel her out - I did NOT know what kind of writer she was and I was holding my own and so was Doug. We needed more information and you guys know I have held to that for 12 yrs ever since I went public in 2000. This writer started talking contracts and money and I was NOT ready for that. One individual - was gutsy enough to make it sound like I had ASKED he or she to write a book. I really pissed some people off. I knew nothing about books or contracts and I wanted to WAIT! Geeze - now I look back and think - Hey, I could have done a Blevins or Marla thing! I chose my ROAD and did it MY WAY. Might NOT be the RIGHT WAY, but it was better than the WRONG WAY. When I look back at what MARLA and BLEVINS did - I have NO REGRETS. I have taken Jo's road and at least it is honest and every word of it is true. If I embelished as others have done or encouraged me to do - where would I be now? Weber maybe forgotten except for the people who read this thread - but, it was MY WAY and it was the RIGHT WAY.... but, NEVER say NEVER! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I don't know if one of you computer astute individuals can find this old site or if it still exists. D.B. Cooper - The legend live on - by Make Machat. I printed the article, but can no long find it on the computer. If someone can find it and provide a link - there are some interesting things there. An account by the author with the co-pilot hand-flying the arcraft at 10,000 feet. In this article there is a section called Parajacking.101 Talks about the Vietnam War and the first use of Douglas DC-4's and eventually Boeing 727-100s for arerial operations in support of the CIA. He is talking about 1968 inot Laos from Taklkh Air Base in Thailand. There is mention of his conversation with passenger Mitchell and his noting what appeared to be thermal underwear showing below the cuffs of Cooper's trouser. This man even explains the ropes and how the package Cooper had was allowed to hang below him as he jumped. Even the artist depictions of Tina's accounting from another source shows this. WHY they went looking for CIA and Smokejumpers! He explains that the sack striking the ground in advance gave him just enough warning to brace for impact and execute the energy-absorbing PLF manuever. Even this article mentions a canvas bag - which seems to be lost in todays reports. The authorities were bound and determined to make the public believe the money when out of that plane in a whitish bank bag! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Duane's ex boss has been in contact with me and wanted to know the name of the man in Mobile. According to the records I had - both Duane and this guy worked for the same company for a period of time. No one ever tied this down....???? This man's motive would later surface....because he later approached me about doing a book or movie. He was projecting himself to me as changed man...one who found his way and changed his life - but, I had NO idea what he was talking about...or how bad he was, because I didn't know anything about him. In this correspondence I am explaining to Doug what happened at the Veteran's Office. I ask Doug "What Does Access Denied, mean?" Duane had actually drove me down to where Camp Siebert USED to be on one of our trips. At Ft. Benning I couldn't find the building he showed me but, did find what appeared to be the same in old pictures of Ft. Benning along the public highway. Was never sure if I was in the right place. My car was old and my time was limited. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Doug Pasternak put a lot of research into this. I had been contacted by the Night Clerk on duty at the the Rodeway Inn the evening before Nov. 24, 1971. The nightclerk had given Doug accurate information that ALL checked out - right down to who the owners/manage were. Doug is freaking out the same as I had been since I first spoke with the Night Clerk. I am the one holding Doug back and I regret that - I was terrified about having to go public and was already feeling the repercussions. Nothing my life had prepared me for this. I was an ordinary woman and lived an ordinary life. Doug mentions this is only one GUY's recollection 30 yrs ago, but one thing the forensic artist had told Doug the day before - was that an event like this (D.B. Cooper Hijacking) the face would tend to stay in people's minds for a long long time. I believe this is may be the point Doug was told by the artist about something odd one of the stewardess stated to him about a motion or action Cooper made. I think Doug did go visit him at a later date for about 2 hours. The emails will speak for themselves and you will rediscover all of this with me. Perhaps the conversations and description between the composite artist and witnesses were recorded. I expect they were not, so the witness would be completely comfortable with the artist. I do remember that when this action or motion was mentioned to me on the phone by Doug I STOPPED him by telling HIM WHAT it was. Both of us freaked out that night. He started to tell me what the motion or action was - I stopped him and finished his sentence for him. I hope Doug recorded that conversation with me. Both of us were trying to trace Duane's ex's connections to WA in 1971. We did manage at a later date to do so. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Think Quade NEEDS to take this down a notch or two. Start by deleting Blevins' post with an advertisement to promote one of his books. Then place a warning that the bickering among some posters must stop. No one can post anything without Blevins stepping in to PROMOTE his book. That is all he does. Georger doesn't help with his snippy remarks and the two of them just end up back in the same old argument. All I am trying to do at this point is just prove the consistency of the story I have told by reviewing things in writing and in emails prior to my coming to this thread. Prior to 2000 - all I have are notes and tapes of phone conversations. I hope to make a summary of the yrs up to July 2005 when I came to this thread. Then everything I know will be on one site....4 more yrs to go. The last thing I will do is something with the tapes from 1996 to 2000 to include an old tape with Duane on it. Will need technical help with this. I might be able to go thru the 2 large volumes I have of paper communication from 1996 to 2000 and have some of those scanned to put here. Again that will require some technical help and I could use a volunteer. Another Storm (lightning and thunder) so I have to go. Seems like Mother Nature does not want me to be on the computer or go to the store lately. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Don't Fret Blevins - this offer was in 2000. Unlike others I refused to do anything until the FBI came forward with their investigation. The offer was pretty decent for 2000. There is a confidentiality statement with it so I cannot divulge what the offer was or from whom. I think Doug was perhaps upset we did NOT go forward at this point. But, I made my stand - We had to prove he was Cooper and here I am 12 yrs later still trying to do that and at this stage of the game money doesn't mean much other than providing me with nursing care in a decent enviroment. At this point I think I should have done it. IT would have FORCED the FBI to investigate more than they did - what they have done is shabby...and I have the records to prove it. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Duane Lorin Weber Navy #283 56 96 Army #356 08 905 In 2000 there was an army CLAIM number for Weber #214 95 834 - the Veterans Center would NOT tell me what this was about - because I was NOT listed a beneficiary. The man told me he would have to get access numbers from his superior and then he came back and put them in and it comes UP CLASSIFIED. When he tells me I am not listed as a beneficiary and he could provide me with NO information. I just looked at him and said I was only 3 yrs old in 1943 - I had never met my husband and would not until 1976 and he was 17 yrs older than me. I was NOT told what this claim number was about. Doug Pasternak did most of this, but I was the one who went to get the at the Vet Center and GOT no where. The man had me fill out some papers and said I would get it back in a few days....what I got was the same things I already had. There was NO discharge date on the Army record - that would NOT appear until I contacted the FBI after HOPE told me Duane was NEVER in THE ARMY. I cannot remember what Winnetka near Chicago means - I am drawing a blank. The Agent Jim Theisen was the FBI who showed the tie tac to the McCoy Family. The one legged guys worked at one time for Howard Hughes and it was his right leg missing just below the knee (supposedly cancer). In 1979 he was driving a Yellow Tornado and he lived in a small area below Denver - I think it was called Castle. We never found this guy, but I expect he finally died of his cancer. I could never remember his name. This man and Duane knew each other very well - and had a past together. This was another person Duane seemed protective of and would have done anything for him - There were 3 people in Duane's life - I believe he would have taken a bullet for and this man was one of them. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I agree - Cook has NOT jumped into the fire with a book and that I do respect. It is debatable who has been searching longer - Cook or Weber. I am NOT an attorney nor a man - so I don't ask questions that obtain the results I am looking for. "His patience" Well, I will tell you he is NOT patient when he wants to know something...and he will pull out his bag of tricks. Frankly I don't think Cook has ever been able to shake Weber out of his thoughts and I believe it haunts him. I agree that Blevins really makes issues - and that is because he put a lot of money and time into this - and he was skating on thin ice the whole time. Cook went out on a limb with the Janet story and he does fabricate things....and borrow things without asking. Galen could tell you a thing or two about Ice. He has NEVER figured out how I knew about Glacier ICE. He does respect me but not the only supporter of a subject out there who has demonstrated this. He usually (at my nudging) provided correct information regarding certain issues...he and I did have issues...but, he figured he had drained the pond dry (so he thought). Perhaps he was fishing. I will agree he has been an imparticial participant....but he still pulls the little boy in the corner act when he wants his way. If he makes me mad then he is a sneaky snake. Strange as it may sound I would really like to meet this guy....the Glacier Ice thing - well, it showed he was smart, witty and motivated as a kid and he still has those characterists. Cook and Brown - just another puzzle for you Georger! One is in Alaska and one is in Florida and both had connections to Unions, but both are connected to a midwest state involved in the death of a president and a common denominator called Unions. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger, I realize my story is repetitious and boring, because I feel the same way about Blevins story. He does take the attitude that he has proved Cooper was KC...and that is the end of the subject. You sounded hesitant when you said "and many others maybe even including Mr. Cook". Why would Cook deserve any special consideration? His subject came as a phone call while Cook was on TV talking about Cooper. Cook was in touch with me long long before that (I have a letter to prove it) and he enclosed a picture of "his" suspect. Do not know who the guy was, but I still have his letter and the picture. Cook wanted Tina's location and I said NO. (This was 2003 or 2004 without digging up the letter). Cook and I had some words! I will not make PEACE with plagurism or using someone elses' story. You do know he would NOT have found Tina had it not been for my having a Weak Moment. Remember back when Sluggo or someone published a name and other information about a man who was supposedly Tina's ex husband. Then there was a supposed telephone interview. WELL, WELL, I was laughing my pants off. I knew the name was not even correct. I just rode on the wave and tried to act interested - finally I told Cook after being hounded and hounded how to find Tina. I told him what county and what state she obtained her divorce in and bingo he was on top of it. If I had known he was going to use that information to hound her and take sneaky pictures of her, I would have taken it to my grave. He is an attorney and he couldn't find Tina! She was hiding in plane site! Cook promised he would NOT harass her - but he did his usual Sneaky Snake in the Grass business. Never understood why it took people so long to find her. A news article way back when mentioned where she was living and what she did after her divorce. Did NOT take a ROCKET scientist. Of course I had an ANGEL on my shoulder so I can't take the credit for it. Note: Cook has chased lots of subject previously for a long time before GOSSETT's son contacted Cook while he was on a Coast to Coast program talking about Cooper. I classify Cook with Blevins. They both try to force their subject into a mold as Cooper. Did you know that Cook was talking to me long before that and that I am the ONE who had to CORRECT him on certain things? I kept the damn emails just so I would have proof. Cook has not "discovered or provided one item of physical evidence which links Gossett to this crime". Excuse me for borrowing your phrase and changing one word to Gossett. Cook likes to PLAY GAMES! If you don't know that about him by now you are a poor judge of character. Cook went so far as to fabricate an exchange between Gossett and a judge about leaving prints on the plane. Cook and I talked about this yrs and yrs ago and then he adapts it to his story. Not exactly the most scrupulous person in the world....ever known an attorney who was. I think he is a Sneaky Snake in the Grass and before he was ever mentioned in this thread - I was calling him that from get go. Cook RIDES the back of others and his story is weak. As for JO's Story - I may never be able to prove Duane was Cooper, but what happened was real and I lived it. I cannot erase my past with Weber and I believe he was REALLY Cooper. I am not a writer trying to make someone Cooper. I actually lived with this man - if another person out there has lived with what I am living with - why didn't they come forward? I have NOT taken a sequence of things and MADE them work like others have. What happened really happpened and that is 1st hand knowledge. NOT hearsay or she said this and he said this. It is all first person....I am not an investigator or a writer - just one woman trying to be heard. Hard to believe the FBI missed so much - but it is obvious from what I and others have actually found. Makes the FBI really look bad and they don't like that. I am going to make a statement that only you will get. Who was RobbieClampett? I will say NO MORE than that in a public forum. You know how to reach me. I am FED-up w/the game. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

1. She tells me they got married in St. Louis (I had been led to believe it was a common law marriage)...so not sure she was telling the truth. Remember she claimed NOT to know he was Duane Weber, but John Collins. Question how do we find her marriage license? If there was one and what name was used by Duane at that time. He met her in 1962. If she lied about NOT knowing he was Duane L. Weber what else might she have lied about? 2. She mentions Duane getting arrested in Underground Atlanta and being taken to the hosp by ambulance (broken ribs). I suppose the FBI never checked this out. (do not know the yr.) If this is true there should have been some kind of records the FBI could have checked. I have to assume this was between 1968 and 1972 because the kids were with them and I have the resident addresses on the tax forms. Wonder if the FBI was ever even told this or has any knowledge of it. There had to have been an arrest record? At one time I tried to check this but they gave me little information. 3. She jumps back to St. Louis and states they went to Wichita, Kn to learn maintence and switch board operations. She mentions they were sent to Detroit, but could not remember the name of the hotel, but remarked it was in a bad part of town and Duane would be gone a day or 2 at a time. She would not venture too far...from the location This sounds like they were in some kind of program to learn about managing hotels or motels or work within the industry. There should be some kind of record. 4. One day he comes back from a trip out and announces they are leaving. They go back to St. Louis for a few days and then to New York and then to Chicago for 3 days. She said they stayed near an Artist School on Lake Michigan. This was the only time she was in Michigan and they traveled by train. She was on a streak with this, but someone should be able to find out if there was an Artist School on Lake Michigan. Obviously the FBI did NOT question her about her also using aliases during the yrs the 2 of them spent together. I was NOT privey to that, yet I had asked them to allow me to go see her and for them to wire me, but they went on their own and it was a long time before I could get her to talk to me after that. 5. She mentions Duane working for Pyramid Life insurance Co. in St. Louis (note this company would NOT talk to me about Duane Weber or John Collins and the FBI did NOT contact them). My ex-husband had been in the insurance business - and the offices keep old fliers, but the company would provide me with NO information (again I could NOT prove I was the wife of John Collins). John Collins was not licensed in either of the 2 states and I was able to check this out. Per the ex - that is why they left because he got found out after several months of making good money, but supposedly he was taking company money. Seems like Pyramid would have a record of individuals they charged with taking monies? Why did the FBI NOT pursue this? 6.. She mentions the heat being on and they head to CA. - no time frame. They stayed in Arcadia, CA and soon head back east to Cleveland, Oh. (Duane had family in Arcadia, but I would not know this until later and just caught this from my old notes on this day in August 2012). 12 yrs since I revisited this as I am doing now. Sure makes one wonder what "investigation" the FBI actually did on Weber. 7. She tells me that when they return to OHIO she started to use her REAL NAME and SS#. Wow, I had forgot this also. She had to have known he was an ex-con - otherwise why would a woman agree to run all across the country and pretend to be someone else! The children were living with their father. I don't remember if she old me where in Ohio. This would all be prior to his being arrested in 1966 and sent to Jefferson in MO. I assume the crime was committed in MO. She did live in Jefferson while he was in prison and had the children with her part of this time. This is the period of time she claimed to have known a woman connected to James Earl Ray who lived with her for a brief period of time. She couldn't stand the "smell" of the woman's cooking. This was 1966 during the first few month Duane was at Jefferson as John Collins. When Duane got caught in 1995 obtaining a drivers license for John Collins - he told me that he known James Earl Ray and his story matched her story. Remember - 1995 was my first knowledge he spent time in a federal prison, but due to the circumstances the pshycologist must have told him to fess up...and he needed my support to explain WHY he tried to get a drivers license under John Collins. I did NOT question him - I gave him space because the Dr. told me that is what I needed to do. Duane informed me he took funds from his employer - this made sense because he was doing debit insurance collections. Again I had NO KNOWLEDGE of his prior residency in other establishment. The other time hementioned any kind of incarcerations was in 1978 when he had the night mare screaming "I left my prints on the Aft Stair - I'm going to die" A blood curdling scream. His explanation for aftstairs was what they call the steps in jail and admitted to having spent a couple of months in a county jail. He KNEW if I found out he had been in prison it was over for him because of my background. I will never get rid of the gut feeling I have had since learning an alias he use was Collins. My maiden name was Collins. He did ask me a lot of question about my parents and their family. My Grandfathers name was John Collins. Believe me this was no ordinary man - but, now I realize he had the charm of a snake except it back fired on him. He actually fell in love with me and my family, Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I hate all the repeat posting, but below I am going to repeat parts of a post I made which was a summary of my conversations to that point in August of 2000 with Duane's ex-wife of the day. The conversations took place in 2000. The reason I am doing this is I AM ASKING for HELP. I do not know how I can even acquire any information - unless the FBI or a retired FBI agent or a retired investigator who is willing to donate his time. If anyone knows some way to acquire information on Duane Weber and John Collins during those yrs - please help. I will just re-post the things most important to me and make them blue. They did NOT offer her any kind of immunity for any involvement she might have had before or after the fact. Before they went to see her it was found she had a FIRE in her shed after the FBI contacted her to arrange to meet with her. I have been told several stories about this. My first knowledge of this was from none other than an FBI agent. She was burning some things in the shed???? She even tried to blame it on one of the kids, but I was told later she did it herself. Was she buring evidence - or what! She herself told me 2 different stories about this once I felt comfortable asking her about it as I felt I gained her confidence. Will do another later right now there is storm - lots of electrical activity. Worst show of Mother Nature bang her pots and pans I have ever experienced. Just correcting this post and will move on. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins take this in the manner it was intended: Having fun, but On the serious side until the FBI actually looks at KC as a suspect you have NOTHING. 1. The tie - probably did NOT belong to Cooper...that is the only possible answer - right! 2. Why didn't the FBI check the cut cords for DNA if they were SO sure they had Cooper's DNA? 3. Testimony (that can stand the light of day and be verified)! Just exactly what would that be? You mean statements made by you (Blevins) to others who were misguided by your greed and/or your questions and the answers. 4. NOT on of the stories supposedly told you to can be corroborated. You have NO confession or evidence. 5. Little boy playing games. You are having a symposium and then you aren't. You are the one who has lost your objectivity! 6. If the FBI had an inkling Geestman was involved they would have been all over it like bee's in defense of their hive. 7. The "plan" you put together does NOT hold water for 5 minutes. Believe me on this anything beyond 2 will not a secret keep...even then one will hold their breath at times...there is only one thing that will cause 2 people to keep a secret - LOVE until death do us part. 8. Perhaps Geestman was in cahoots with Weber. You know your story could back fire - Geestman and his wife may have known who Cooper was - Her riding those horses standing on their backs....exactly were all did this lady do this show. Perhaps SHE is the one with something to hide. 9. NO one could put all the dates together this many yrs later - believe me if anyone of those "witnesses" actually knew Cooper they would have gone public LONG LONG before Christiansen was ever presented as a suspect. 10. You go into such detail about the purchase of the ticket and stashing in the chute and making a phone call. You are just shooting into the dark. 11. No way to prove Kenny laid low or that he was even involved. It has been explained to you over and over the money KC had was NOT extra-ordinary for a single man who liked to collect things. 12. The picture proves NOTHING. Just a party gag thing if it was even that. Lots of people put pictures over pictures - I have some like that. 13. Geestman approaches Kenny about a $5,000 loan to his sister Dawn so she can buy her own place in Buckley. The only thing interesting about that is that she lived in Minnesota.

I had a series of phone conversations with the ex-wife who the FBI had already interviewed and had scared her to death. They did NOT offer her any kind of immunity for any involvement she might have had before or after the fact. They scared the "shit" out of her. If they were on a fact finding trip - they didn't even know the right questions to ask. They should have been terribly suspicious of some activities that occurred before the interview - this incident and the timing of it should have been reason for them to have been cautious in how they approached her. The FBI did discuss this with me AFTER the fact. It took months before she would talk to me. Finally I broke the barrier and when she talked she talked --- she would call me after she had pulled far too many tabs. I would call her back because I knew she could not afford a large long distance bill. What I am about to relay is in pieces and notes and I do not remember the sequences but the summary was done in August of 2000. NOTE none of this is in order as per my statement above. She was all over the place in her conversation. 1. She tells me they got married in St. Louis (I had been led to believe it was a common law marriage)...so not sure she was telling the truth. Remember she claimed NOT to know he was Duane Weber, but John Collins. 2. She mentions Duane getting arrested in Underground Atlanta and being taken to the hosp by ambulance (broken ribs). I suppose the FBI never checked this out. (do not know the yr.) 3. She jumps back to St. Louis and states they went to Wichita, Kn to learn maintence and switch board operations. (Note: Watch BK jump on this one!) 4. She mentions they were sent to Detroit, but could not remember the name of the hotel, but remarked it was in a bad part of town. 5. She would go to the bar at the hotel, but Duane would be gone for a day or two at a time. She was afraid to venture too far from the location. 6. One day he comes back from a trip out and announces they are leaving. They go back to St. Louis for a few days and then to New York and then to Chicago for 3 days. She said they stayed near an Artist School on Lake Michigan. This was the only time she was in Michigan and they traveled by train. 7. She mentions Duane working for Pyramid Life insurance Co. in St. Louis (note this company would NOT talk to me about Duane Weber or John Collins and the FBI did NOT contact them). 8. Some how he acquires monies for a car. 9. She mentions the heat being on and they head to CA. - no time frame. They stayed in Arcadia, CA and soon head back east to Cleveland, Oh. (Duane had family in Arcadia, but I would not know this until later and just caught this from my old notes on this day in August 2012). That is how many yrs since I have looked at this old stuff? My notes of conversations with her. 10. She tells me that when they return to OHIO she started to use her REAL NAME and SS#. Wow, I had forgot this also. She had to have known he was an ex-con - otherwise why would a woman agree to run all across the country and pretend to be someone else! 11. She continues to jump back and forth in time. She mentions that he went to work at the Muelbach after prison. This corresponds with record I found from the old tax forms. 12. From there they go to CO where she had family and I have told this part of the story before. When the FBI came knocking on the door of her relatives looking for him they fled to N.Orleans. This is AFTER he was released from Jefferson as John Collins. 13. A trip to Scottsdale,Arizona and CA and WA is mentioned during this time frame. It gets all fuzzy - I think she is jumping back to before he went to prison, (1962 to 1966), but my memory nor my notes manage to organize their life together. She had lost custody of her kids until 1967 or 1968 so I think she jumped back in time...rather difficult to do that kind of traveling with children. 14. Her story is scrambled - I think she is lieing to me. Such as she wrecked her car in Nov of 1971 and goes to Loraine, OH. She backs up and mentions they rented a house from a Pentecostal Preacher who traveled and it was fully funished(1969). Then she mentions they bought a Mobile Home in the same area. Duane has no credit - how did they buy a mobile home on a lot on Scott...the location they lived at when divorced in May of 1972. 15. She is scrambling - because then she mentions she goes back to him in Feb of 1972, but I am told by a second party on a later date that was not true. The FBI was having NONE of it. 16. She and Duane divorce in May of 1972 and he remarries in June of 1972. FAST work! He and his new wife purchase a new home after the new wife's home is destroyed by fire that same summer. 17. She then mentions Lyons movers pack and move her to CA. Where did the money come from? 18. Then she DROPS this one on me. Claimed that in 1977 Duane came to see her (I knew that because I put him on the plane - it was my idea), but what I didn't know was he helped her by a new car. #20 - Just because? The ONLY thing Tommy Gunn would tell me about his connection to Duane was that he met him in Chicago! [RED]Also NOTE: I would not know until August of 2000 that Ralph Hope was NOT the agent of Record. I had spent 4 yrs telling my story to him and he was no longer assigned to the case.[/RED] What the Hell! It was Ralph Hope who told me Duane was NEVER in McNeil or the ARMY in March of 2000. NOW DOES THIS START TO MAKE THE FBI LOOK BAD? Or is it just how I want to make it sound? I did NOT go back to my old records - and NOW realize a lot of what is here is VERY IMPORTANT and it appears the FBI really did drop the ball. Hopefully one of you out there reading this really cares and knows that I do not lie - I may un-intentionally mix-up somethings, but I have been keeping this shit in my head for 17 yrs. Going back into the old files is actually making the FBI look really bad RIGHT NOW! I will continue for as long as I can to revisit my old research and my journey on this thread. If anyone objects to that please speak up now. A lot of it is things I have already told you, but this is from journals kept by email on my computer - some of which have been lost forever except for the hard copies I am taking his information from. Maybe my computer crash in 2004 was intentional - you think. Nah - just dumb old woman trying to learn new things out of necessity. At least now most of 2000 has been made public - at least what counts. It is 2 inches thick - so what I have recounted above is the highlights When I reach 2004 - I will stop because the rest of it is on disks and on paper or in this thread. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You have absolutely NO credibility! I have spoke of a SATCHEL since 1996 in my discussions with Himmelsbach and the FBI and OTHERS. I had described it many many times. I was talking SATCHEL for a long time before you ever came into the picture! Yes, because I mentioned SATCHEL in the thread you did SUGGEST I look at Flight Satchels (that much I will give you credit for, but NOT CREDIBLITY). IT is the only thing you have been on target with and it was a lucky guess. I had NO idea there was such a thing as Flight Satchels. Major SCREW-up. I never said a man took the money onto the plane. It was a man (he has been named in the past) who took the money OUT to the plane AFTER it arrived at the airport and Tina retrieved it from the bottom of the Stairs! This is just a SAMPLE of how you SCREW everything up. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Matt, I for one would be willing to work with a REAL documentary group with investigators that will actually study the file of Duane L. Weber (individuals who actually find documents - like the ancestory program). I have most of them, but NOT all that is needed. Individuals who do NOT take for granted what the FBI tells them, but research such things on their own. Such as it is documented the FBI claimed they used prints for Weber from the McNeil file (by an FBI agent in this thread)and yet, I can prove that in 2000 the FBI claimed Weber was NOT in McNeil...I got part of it on TAPE, but my memory doesn't let me remember how much and I am afraid to play those old tapes without an expert - placing them into a different medium...someone who knows what he is doing. The purpose of this is to show the FBI did NOT sufficiently investigate Weber and made a lot of errors - What disqualifies him other than prints and DNA? Can the FBI PROVE they have prints and DNA that they can positively prove belonged to Cooper?....The answer to that is NO. Where was the dam tie for 4 days? Where are the minutes that show the tie was taken into evidence immediately after the crime? It was per rumor 4 DAYS later they claimed they had a tie that belonged to Cooper. Cooper was known to take anything with him that he had touched. Books and matches. The FBI never did ask Tina if Cooper continuely placed his hands in his jacket pocket or how he handled his smoke....and which hand he held it in. The FBI should be able to produce a photo of how the money went out of the plane, but the man who delivered the "bag" to the plane is the one who might know the answer to that. This FBI agent did NOT want to make "Cooper" mad by delivering it in a white bag..was my original thought. Ask the co-pilot about the bag he claimed he saw. The co-pilot was as detailed as I was about it....and OUR descriptions matched. Ask the Stewardess what the money was in when Cooper strapped it to himself? Note I said strapped it to himself not how it was delivered. I could draw a picture of it, but have NOT found one that matched it exactly. Flight satchels are the closest I could find. Before I had looked for briefcases and bankbags and satchels...but, why would the money have been placed in a flight satchel? Well, perhaps I and others know the answer to that one - it was the closest thing anyone had to a knapsack. It had straps and it was sturdy with a handle that would not fly open...it had loops on it so Cooper could secure it with the rope available to him from the extra chute. Cooper did give Tina a look when the money bag was delivered - I have always had to guess what this "look" was all about. It was the reason I doubted the "satchel" story, but the co-pilot and the pilot and other members of the crew may have had a flight satchel! Perhaps the satchel belonged to someone else on that plane! I had surmised perhaps the co-pilot saw it as it passed the door to the inside of the plane - but he did NOT say that. Yet, he and I both described the SAME bag. I have black and white paper and computer journals since 2000. Prior to 2000 it is journals and notes and my work planners and old phone bills. They might check out Tony Wong and Tommy Gunn - perhaps learn something about Weber in the process. I have made some mistakes and have made assumptions, but do NOT have a problem facing anyone with what I have. It is known by me the post was NOT directed at me - BUT, my answer is yes. I cannot and will not sign away rights as I took care of that yrs and yrs ago and my children retain the rights after my death....but, I am OPEN to a documentary without my giving up any of my rights. This should be a group of people who would like to prove Weber was Cooper, but if in the process they PROVE he wasn't - that is OK. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Old Research: BK need NOT reply to any of this as this is confidential research I and is in black and white: If he makes up one word about what I am stating belown he will be exterminated - hopefully by Quade or the DZ. What do the locations or names have to do with Duane Weber? Ginger Nance St. Francis Hotel in Los Angeles Eric Starvo Gault Granada Hotel, Birmingham 1535 N. Serranon St. Los Angeles National Dance Studio, Los Angeles Provincial Motel, New Orleans 113 14th St. Atlanta Flamigo Motel, Selma Travelodge Motel, Birmingham Indina Trail Restaurant, Winnetka, Ill Betcha BK makes something out of it - You think? What yrs? Fish are Biting if you put you make the sinker long enough. The like it where the water is the coolest....not enough oxygen close to the surface! P.S. Tommy Gunn claimed to have met Duane Weber in Chicago??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? More trivia - but true: George Labisonier (a passenger on the plane) identified a picture of Coffelt as being Cooper IMPORTANT: Any assistance on this will be helpful but ZERO from BK - he makes up ONE more lie regarding my documentations and it is over: Because Nancy House was a passenger on the plane - it bugs me I can't find her.

Recounting my contacts from 2000....those that are in black and white and verifiable. Subject: A communication with Bill Mitchell the student who sat across from Cooper and the last one to move forward. He had stated in a prior email that he was having a problem with the ears. I informed him of the prison hair cut (very close) and other pictures of individual from the times often showed larger ears. This was his reply: "Emails are hard to communicate by. On one hand I don't want you to be discouraged from finding out the truth, but on the other hand I want to be completely honest with my reaction to the pitcures. 29 yrs ago is a long time. I really wouldn't trust my memory!!! If I can be of any other help let me know." I had his phone number and email address which I have always kept confidential and let others find this on their own. I had found him thru his daughter at a university and she put me in touch with her father. Now WHO was doing a serious investigation? The FBI had NOT shown him any pictures of Weber. I later acquired some I did NOT have at that time. This was 4 or 5 yrs later and the email and the phone number had changed. Guys, I have not played with this - I am dead serious and not a story teller like BK. The day I picked up the phone and called BK was my biggest mistake. Himmelsback was the one who arranged for the contact. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo made a simle wish list and stated this: "Who was Tony Wong and Tommy Gunn and how did they know each other. What was that "camp" they were at? A lot of the answers to Duane's past lie in the answers to that question." Well, I'll be damn if the fantasy devil BK didn't pop up with his ridiculous fantasy - AGAIN: I will inform all that yrs ago when I first mentioned Tommy Gunn to BK - he did NOT know a Tommy Gunn! I know who Tommy Gunn was and where he lived and he was NOT Richard Floyd McCoy. I met Tommy Gunn several times and (whatever or whoever he was) one thing is for certain - he WAS NOT MCCOY! BK's direct quote in a phone conversation when I mentioned Tommy Gunn yrs ago "I do not know a Tommy Gunn". BUT, this creep BK then starts telling others about "his Tommy Gunn" as soon as he found a podium to shout it from. It was this kind of "stuff" that caused the FBI to walk away from Weber. BK is some kind of sadistic personality that GET OFF by making preposturous claims. WE asked him NICELY to produce the on physical item he has claimed to have. The article in the newpaper about Duane's ex or lady of the day being arrested for a theft from the Apt complex in Bloomington. Gray couldn't find it and NO one else can find it. Newpaper Archives to not vanish. Arrest records do not vanish. I listened to the "building" of his story for a long time and the more I heard the sicker it made me. He is like MIKIE - he will eat anything! As long as he has a podium he will continue to make up stories - none of which he has ever shown one iota of proof on. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

HAS ANYONE HEARD FROM BRUCE SMITH LATELY. I WENT TO HIS SITE AND NOT ONE POST SINCE EARLY JULY. I KNOW HE WAS GOING EAST FOR A WHILE, BUT IT IS NOT LIKE HIM NOT TO TOUCH BASE WITH US. THE LAST ARTICLE WAS ABOUT HATS AND HIS EX-WIFE. CUTE SWEET STORY! WE ALL KNOW HE HAD A HEART ATTACK A FEW MONTHS AGO - BRUCE IF YOU ARE THERE AND CAN LET US KNOW YOU ARE OK - PLEASE DO SO! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

At least you and I agree on Something, Georger. We all know I am adamant about what I believe - but, I am NOT trying to sell it. That could CHANGE, if the FBI does NOT talk to me soon....I believe I deserve some honest answers from the FBI. 1. The large holes in his criminal record? 2. For the FBI to actually look at the old drivers license and the time tables of what they dismissed? 3. The Jefferson file (I needed that just to do some research on Duane as certain things I cannot touch since Duane lived as John Collins for 6 yrs). In fact the SS owes me money that Duane should have got - but I needed for the FBI to acknowledge John C. Collins and Duane Weber were one and the same. What was put on the computer system a few yrs ago was insufficient? I could use the money! 4. An explanation of why and how they dismissed the McNeil incarcerationand HOW they used prints on a file I was told in 2000 did NOT exist and never was? This was the most stupid thing the FBI did...even yrs later Carr is stating they use the McNeil file for prints - yet in 2000 it did NOT exist per the FBI. 5. Why they refused to check the records in Omaha for a safety deposit box? 6. Why the co-pilot and I both knew what the money went out of that plane in? (NOT what the media claims it went out in). 7. Who did they interview in Jefferson after the crime and did this person have any contact with John Collins or Duane Weber? 8. What the hell does Mickey have to do with Cooper? At one time I had 21 questions for them - but they have never answered any of them. Show the picture of the little girl to Tina and find out if that is a picture of her. I could do it but I don't want to invade her privacy. I spent yr holding her address and phone number privately - it was Galen Cook that weasled enough information from me to figure it out. My telling him what state he would find the divorce record in - led him straight to what I had known since 2003 or 2004. The person who directed me to this information - only identified himself or herself as RobbieClampett and then went POOF. Someone wanted me to find her, but I was not brazen enough to do the things other who came later did. I felt SO badly when learned what they did because I slipped up. I never wanted to hurt her. I always wanted to send her all of the pictures of Duane (those public and NOT public) but, knew it had been too many yrs and how her life had been traumatized by all of this. I was unable to impose myself upon her except for that one contact and then a couple of messages to let her know the demons had been unleashed - in Cooper World. I am Not Blevins or Gray or BK or someone wanting attention or to stir things up - I just want some simple answers they can prove or at least explain away with some kind of evidence that proves their answer. I REFUSE to die without answers and if that means going public then so be it....If I do what some others want me to do - the FBI will look really bad. Who was Tony Wong and Tommy Gunn and how did they know each other. What was that "camp" they were at? A lot of the answers to Duane's past lie in the answers to that question. Oh Well, Just Crazy Delusional and Off Her Rocker Old woman the FBI wants to go away! 17 yrs of my life was expendible and I am running out of time, but the FBI should have the answers if they were able to rule Duane out as Cooper....there is a hell of a lot more to this case than DNA and smugged prints. A LOT MORE! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo Stated Blevins Replied: "Any real posts by me at that trash-ridden article have a link attached to the username. That's how you know it's ME. If there isn't a valid link, it's not mine. I'm not PROMOTING the book. Trust me, I gave up on making money via Cooper long ago. Like you, I just want to know if I'm right or wrong. I hate to say it, but it's almost like you and Georger are afraid of it or something. This is ridiculous because many times posters have put up links or quoted references from the OTHER Cooper books. What makes mine something you fear? If it IS the truth, the truth can be a dangerous thing in the Cooper case. Why? Because some people don't WANT to know. It's the argument they live for, not any possible solutions that might make sense." XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX JO REMARKS! What an EGO! What makes you make such a statement IF you are NOT promoting your book. The statement I am referring to is this quote: What makes mine something you fear? Whew! Your mind is wandering in a very thick forest on a dark starless night and a thick fog rolling in from the swamp or whatever moisture is in the area...you are totally lost! NO ONE fears your story about KC - no one! The story you tell is NOT first hand knowledge of the a suspect - just a bunch of people being used and maneuvered for the purpose of another (Blevins writing a book). Nothing you presented in you story represents any "possible solutions that makes sense". Had it not been for this thread & the skydivers who tolerate this thread - you would not even have got the facts of the crime correct. I may be Crazy, Delusional and Off My Rocker or perhaps just eccentric, possessive and obsessive - but, I did live with the subject Duane Lorin Weber for 17 yrs plus in marriage and I did hear him make a confession I did NOT understand. The research of his past - is much much stronger than anything you have on KC. Problem was I am not methodical and did NOT present Weber the way he should have been presented. Because of me and certain other parties - the FBI dropped the ball on Weber. Perhaps I should have gone immediately to the MEDIA instead of calling the FBI. After my call in May of 1996 and until 2000 - NO ONE heard me and after everything died down - NO ONE knows everything I have acquire with the exception of few. The ONLY voice I have had is this thread and last yr. I felt my health would cause me to be unable to post (I even sent Quade a notification I would be leaving the thread last yr.) Well, the CREATOR decided it was NOT MY time and my guys stepped up some research. The time line and the errors in the criminal records - they are obvious, but getting the FBI to look at Cooper again - seems hopeless. The only thing left is to go public and I really really have tried to stay away from that. This thread is as public as I get. I do occasional fire off some information to various individuals. but I never get a response and do not know if they even open the email. It has reached a point "WE" need to go public but NOT in a way that would cause me harm as it did when the FBI actually lied to me, before. After they were publicly called on their errors - they closed the door on WEBER, but that has and will always be a fatal mistake. The government does NOT want the world to know their young investigators actually screw up. The main agent in charge of the first agent sat in on an interview ((never made public to my knowledge) to cover the faults the agent of record had made Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

No apology needed. Play it again Sam. Maybe it will get better on your 400th telling. No talent and no story requires lots of space and time. The internet is perfect for you, as you know! Got any gossip on the Phelps family ? Did you make the crow watching cutoff? The people of Earth are depending on you, our hero. Lyle did NOT make a post about MAX's book. I suggest the woman who has that site investigate the people posing as others. She wrote a half decent article - but she allowed it to get trashed with TRASH and PHONIES! I sent her an email, but do NOT expect to hear from her. If she allows innocent individuals to be portrayed by TRASH and does NOT verify the posters identity - isn't there some kind of law against this type of thing. Bruce has a way of checking his posters and screening their remark and so did Sluggo. This woman who wrote the article has NO MORALS if she does NOT take down all of those phoney posts. Some individuals will read that ridiculous stuff and think that is the truth. She is making life HARD for REAL people...with the phoney and slanderous posts. Blevins - I thought this woman was somehow LINKED to you. Obviously your posts are your posts since you have not stated otherwise - What is the REAL scoop on this - and PLEASE STOP promoting your damn book - I don't care if you are giving it away - you are throwing money away! Your Ballad sounds like some hill billy song - the back woods kind from the 50's....all it needs is a banjo! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber