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Everything posted by skyjack71
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WHY don't you ask the FBI about that one....I do not control what they supposedly have in their files. The damn house was there in 1971, 1979 and 1991 when I went back out there. It was white and it had trim on it - perhaps shutters....YOU go to the FAZIO's - they do not know why the FBI has pictures that do not show the house - perhaps the ariel you guys are using has been altered. WHAT was the original source....perhaps Georger. Well, go to the Vancouver records YOURSELF and see what the ariels show...trust NO one but yourself if you are truely looking for the truths... Are you SURE that ariel was the original ariel in 1971 & 1979....perhaps it has been altered if it is indeed dated and certified authentic....???? Georger is good about altering things! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Well, sweetie go back to the time that Sluggo was posting some where around that time frame. I kept telling the guys that Sherwin Williams out of Chicago developed the paint for the Boeing & I was told it didn't happen that everything that went into that plane was manufactured by Boeing...I stopped arguing with these guys & just let it go...... Duane's Uncle was the main man with Sherwin Williams & they had a winter home in guess where? Treasure Island, Fl. I do not have all of the names available to me or at the tip of my tongue, but it was all in this forum. The name of the Uncle & his wife & she remarried and moved to Treasure Island permanently - she & her new husband both died in that area... Duane told the deputies when he was arrested in Treasure Island that the names of the people he had on a list he knew - HE DID KNOW THEM. He was related to a couple of them. The deputy considered it some kind of 'hit' list - but it is all in the arrest records of Duane Weber in Treasure Island in 1958 or 1959....I am not going to look up the file - it is in this thread....YOU go find it. I got tired of arguing with the guys & just let it go....but now that you question my knowledge - YOU FIND IT! You are like the other egotistical men I have met in my life - you think you know it all & you get so many things wrong...when it come down to the simple things in this case....just like the FBI did NOT investigate Duane Weber's background or they would have known this.... In FACT it was someone on this thread who made me aware of the Treasure Island article & arrest....THE FBI NEGLECTED TO INFORM ME OF THIS. Or perhaps because they had orders to gloss over Weber. When I saw that article it was a pivitol moment for me....Duane had told me about his life in 3rd person...and I revealed that at that time....it was when I knew Weber had NOT lied to me about things - he just always said "I used to know a guy who..." That is how he told me about his life...."used to know a guy" and he was talking about himself. That was how he kept his secrets. I was ready to give up - but to catch the FBI in an out and out deliberate non-disclosure regarding Weber never told to the public or his wife - that is when I got angry and it sealed my mission. All of the things he told me about he was talking about himself in third person - "I used to know a guy" and that guy was himself. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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*** Jo, you say no one was on the beach in 1979 and you also say that you stayed in the parking lot and did not go to the beach. You have previously stated that your claimed 1979 visit was at night. So have you EVER actually seen Tina Bar? Robert99 I could see the beach from the car at the point the parking lot was in 1979, but I could not see the area behind the house....a house you claimed was not there in 1979.....DUH! Why not aske the Fazio's for pictures of the area taken in 1979 or before! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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So says the man who said there was NO house & that JO claimed she was there at night. Do you know who Duane's family was and who his relatives where? Do you know the name of all of the contractors? Don't be foolish like someone was before when they claimed Boeing did all the manufacturing of every thing used on that plane...they did NOT! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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robert99 Right about only one thing - I did stay in the car....but from the parking lot the only time he was out of my sight was when he went behind a house you claimed did not exist! Note I called the Fazio's & spoke to relatives .... 2 individuals & they told me yes there was a house there. So how come you don't see a house on your ariels? Dated 1971, 1979 and 2001. There was a wire fence just behind the tree line so therefore a remark about looking so many feet behind the tree line - is an out & out lie....figure that one out...with your ariels? PICK up the phone and make a call! ASK what was there in 1971, 1979 and 2001. I didn't have to get out of the car to see those things....I believe I did briefly get out of the car to stretch when he got back....I really do not remember. I know he pointed some things out to me. Too stretch mean only that I opened the car door and stood up. Not that I went on a tour of the area. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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*** Jo, you say no one was on the beach in 1979 and you also say that you stayed in the parking lot and did not go to the beach. You have previously stated that your claimed 1979 visit was at night. So have you EVER actually seen Tina Bar? Robert99 I HAVE NEVER STATED IT WAS AT NIGHT! WE LEFT SEATTLE VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING & WENT TO ST. HELENS, OR & THEN BACK TO THE INTERSTATE IN WA . FROM THERE WE WENT TO A PLACE ACROSS FROM THE PDX & THEN TO THE GREEN TANK & THEN BACK TOWARD THE NORTH TO AN INDUSTRIAL AREA & THEN GOING TO TINA'S BAR & THEN TO THE RED LION. AFTER THAT WE CROSSED THE RIVER. WE ARRIVED IN TAHOE THAT SAME DAY! AFTER SEVERAL OTHER STOPS. YOU ARE SO TYPICAL OF ALL OF THESE CREEPS WHO MIX THINGS UP & YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SMART! HOW THE HELL DID YOU EVER FLY A PLANE? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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My parent traveled every yr with us kids extensibly and we owned a LARGE farm with with highways on 2 sides. LITTER was not part of our heritage. We learned early on never to throw things from the car ors into the river or creek. Too many time we had to pick-up litter along the highway and out of the creek beds before going for a swim.... No bubble gum or wrappers out the window, no candy bar wrappers - ZERO tolerance. Duane and I carried a liter bag at all times and there is one in my car now....WHY I remember his throwing what he said was a Candy Bar Wrapper out of the car over that bridge - North of Vancouver - the one that went over to St.Helens, Or. All he had to do was put it in it - WHY the fricking hell do you think I got SO UPSET about it - I was reading him the riot act. Then he turns around that same morning and throws a paper bag into the river - with TRASH! GIMME A BREAK! That is something one does remember - I was very rigid about litter & I still am....I had picked up more than my share of what thoughless individuals tossed out their car windows or abandoned on their picnic or beach party. A grown man - who never threw things out the window has suddenly become a litter bug - you are damn right I do remember that! I was upset with him. NOT just once but twice within a 2 hr period of time....not to mention all the strange things he did like going down to the river by himself and telling me to STAY in the car on 2 of those occassions. YOU are DAMN right - things were NOT normal! THAT is WHY I remember them...not because my memory is so remarkable - because the damn trip was ODD from get go...but I DID not know about Cooper. Only vaguely! Had not read anything since 1971 in the newpaper after it happened and the WAR was on the 1st two pages - and a small article on he 3rd page about Cooper.... I over the yrs from 1971 never thought about Cooper until 1979 when Duane made that little remark about Cooper - it didn't mean a damn thing to me.... Duane did a lot of odd things on that trip - but I did NOT ask Question & what Questions I did ask the reply was generic - but, I didn't even ask. I always figured he would tell me when he was ready....I never pryed into his past...for some reason! Now I wish I had asked questions. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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I was there in 1979 & there was NOT A SOUL on that Beach - NOT one SOUL other than Duane & myself & I was only in the parking lot. Therefore information being stated as being fact is indeed incorrect. There was a house there in 1971 & 1979, but certain individual do not want a house to be there.... The house was behind the fence line (wire fence) and the tree line was at the fence.... If any searches for the money were done above the tree line - it would have been in they yard of the house. The money was about 9 feet from the base of the tree in 1979 and in 2001 those same trees provided a much larger canopy meaning the find locatioon was then currently under the canopy foliage of the 2 remaining trees. When these guy look at ariels - what the hell are they looking at - do they have DATES on the ariels? Duh! Even in 1980 when the money was found - NO way could the seach area have gone into the yard of the house some claim was not there. A quick call to the Fazio's Family before they are all gone would quickly remedy this little conjecture made by wanna be writers or investigator or whatever they call themselves. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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"Cooper would need information specific to the 727 and the fact that the rear stairs could be lowered in flight was not widely known."
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I was unaware that Smoke Jumpers used unique sunglasses....similar to the aviator glasses of 1971. I found it on a site, but didn't mark it but someone here might be able to find out when - they started to provide the smoke special glasses. Not the one for jumping but glasses used on the ground to shield the eyes by firefighters in 1970's. I did not know such a thing existed. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Why I trust Tina's description...she was focused on him and Not on the rest of the passengers. The SunGlasses: Duane had unusual eyes...anyone who knew him will tell you they were intense ^ he had a habit with his eyes - that I do not know how to describe.... It was how he could dart his eyes all over a room - not moving his head to scan a room....I expect this is very common with ex-cons like Duane. They want to check to be sure there is no one in the room who might recognized them or to spot the next victim. The best way to explained it was his eye DARTED...moved rapidly and then when he was focused he made sure he looked you straight in the eyes... I know this was also a sales learning curve...look around the room and the home to see what their interest is. Small talk is part of the sales process - but you go straight into the sales pitch & you have to know how to look for the cues or you are going to walk out of there without a sale. Direct eye contact with the client or clients is better than having one on either side of you....always position yourself in front of both - preferably the kitchen table - a place they are comfortable. If you use a dining room table note the finish and suggest the kitchen table....the dining room was often too formal. Duane Weber's eye were unforgettable and why I focus on the eyes in all of the composites. One particular thing seems to be promient in all versions where the actually witnesses had input. Remembering left from right in a description is often difficult under stress ...the Artist needs to position themselves ACROSS from the witness so the witness can point to this side or that side as thought they are looking at them....otherwise left to the discretion of the witness - he or she my say right or left when if they are positioned across from the artist all they have to is point - (this eye my right eye your left eye) - quiet often the witness will say right when they mean left unless this process is followed. One has to remember the stress of being a victim. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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I was made fun of by you guys over all of these yrs.... Now I will tell you this: Duane told me he knew 2 of the guys in the attached Picture.....well, he did! Does the proof of this make Duane a liar or just that he knew the 2 men. Well the two men were also linked to Fire Fighting. When I found the information I thought nahhh! But, I pulled the old magazine and read it again...there was the two guys. Find Mouse and find the other guy& then you will know who Cooper was. Both of the men are now deceased, but I kept telling you guys that Duane knew 2 of these guys... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Cooper had dyed hair. The Jefferson pic 1966 the FBI concealed from me all of these yrs show Weber with dark curly (very wavy) hair. The 1970/1971 photo the exwife sent me shows Weber with Dyed hair....and all photos after that time show lots of gray hair. The Jefferson composite show a tilted down head - and of course Duane was missing his 4 lower teeth and no bridge at that time. 1970 - he had a bridge but it was a temporary & his dark hair. The nose has been PICKED to death...with the aviator type glasses worn by Cooper - they conceal part of the important features - and this is evident from the photo of Weber - such as one made with thick frame and stems taken in on of the shots - and I do not remember the yr off the top of my head. The glasses and a little dental glue go a long way - and you have Cooper and Weber wrapped up in one package. Feeble attempt so do this in the thread were made a joke out of. Do note the curly wavy hair in the Jefferson intake of 1966 shows the very wavy hair.... In 1970's I started using the temporary dyes to cover my gray. I also have very curly hair - very wavy, but the temporary dyes made my hair sleek and smooth with the help of large curlers. The temporary dyes also made my hair very shiny. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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So who are you? You came to the thread in 2013 and now you are an authority of Cooper.... You gave no location in your DZ inforamtion, but I bet it is CA or it was CA in 2004. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Do you guys know where those 2 cylinders are at this time. Do you know what happened to them after Weber picked them up in Atlanta from the man who had possession of them? The missing communications may be in the minutes, but the cylinders supposedly came up missing? Or did the communication guy make copies? You see Robt99 - you gave yourself away with a comment you made - or perhaps it was another poster who claimed certain communications had been made (regarding exchanges between Cooper and the co-pilot)communications never made public. The posting was in that other place. Or perhaps there is a pretender in the other thread - but, that information was NEVER made public....I knew about missing communications, but had NO proof of such. Loose tongues & old age do not mix. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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I am trying to hang in here. I need to do a post. It is important. Robert99 I do not know who you really are, but some of you need to try to listen (read) what I am telling you....I have kept secrets. I have known more than I thought I did, but felt NO one would listen. Now I know someone is listen - if no one but the Creator & the Terminator. I am being heard and I have got some answers...I knew much more than I thought I did. Clarity comes with the summation of our lives.... Perhaps I am delusional, but taking NO drugs other than something to help me get a few hours of sleep. My body is falling apart, but my mind although disorganized is working just fine...and I will finish my mission. Even I did not know all of the truths. Robt99 I do not need any of your KNOW IT ALL personality at this time. You cannot stop the truth from being told - nor can Georger... The truth could have been told with no repercussion to anyone, but there are those who chose to take the hard road or to make the road I had to travel more difficult and way too long. I will try to come back later to finish what I have to do. It may not be tonight, but it will be soon. NO one can stop me from doing what has to be done...I have tried to tell the story and yet protect and do no harm, but there are certain characters who HAD to prolong the process. Later! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Per the transcipts - it was Tina who introduced the grudge thing - as it was part of her training.... For some reason this information is being distorted to reflect that Cooper initiated the conversation, Why would someone manipulate the reports given to the FBI about this....What is their motive is? How or why would some one deliberately manipulate the minutes of the conversation on the plane and who would have that knowledge? This sounds like Galen - same tactics he used in his many emails to me.... This same individual claimed Cooper waited for a transition zone before jumping.... I completely agree with that statement...because Duane knew the guys working the towers & the communications...he was waiting for it to be handed off....why some transcript of the communications NO LONGER exist. This person assumes I do not know this...but I do & that is what the cylinders were that Duane picked up from a man who worked at the tower in Atlanta. How many times do I have to tell the thread that some guys out of Atlanta had been loaned to either Seattle or Vancouver because of some problems....it was only for a few weeks during a transition time for some reason.... I saw those cylinders - and I had them when Duane died - but I did not know what they were. I took them to one of the antique dealer and he said he knew someone who collected them...this is before I knew SHIT about Cooper - I didn't even know who DAN COOPER was.....I told Mr H about this and who I gave them to....they meant nothing to me - other than something Duane went to retrive from a man in Atlanta who worked at the airport....I have tried to explain this before, but NO ONE heard me. This is in the thread....so I hope someone keeps a copy so they can prove it one day. "His choice of that aircraft and that particular flight (recently added) are all tactical. (those facts and conditions offer a tactical advantage). His choice of where to bail is tactical also" . How many times do I have to tell people that Duane's brother worked for Boeing and that Stanley Gilliam was married to his mother's god child born the same yrs as Duane and they were only a month apart. Her name I have told in this thread and with the story...her name was Barth she became he wife of Gilliam - Duane's mother and the young ladies mother were BEST friends. and they were born one month apart. Duane or his family attended the ceremony when the 727 was first put out..... HOW many time do I have to tell this for someone to LISTEN to me? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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My original contact with Mitchell was only for him to see the photos...I have not imposed myself on him nor was is inability to ID the photos of Duane YRS ago a threat of any kind....he gave me an honest answer & yrs later I acquire more photos - he viewed those.
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Seems like the other thread has nothing to offer other than blasting each other & offering nothing to substanciate their claims. Because I got upset about a certain person's horrid writings as he has so demonstrated in this thread & I am being crucified for attempting to defend myself. No I do NOT get on the phone & attack people who say things that are unsubstanciated...I do email them if it is offensive enough as I am a real person with real feelings and not a liar! I am not what I have been made out to be by a dominant poster on this thread. Yet he continueously posts demeaning things about me & others involved in the case. Such as Tina & her family...it is not like they were on this thread to defend themselves....and he is continueing his assaults as I write on these innocent individuals by publically analyzing their past and present with subjective things...it is SICK. I was kind enough to contact Mitchell on Vicki's behalf & arrange for them to communicate with the contact information to remain private... I suppose she approves of the things Bruce is stating about the stewardess! I did contact the young man & made him aware of the horrid things Bruce has posted about Tina and reminded him she was a victim...of this man....I do not believe he was aware of how vicious certain individual can be. It is not Bruce who pays for letting Jo in his life as it is being stated in other places - the other way around. We all know from the Tina contact how Bruce is...he has no boundaries. Now Bruce is developing a sick profile of two girls whose lives do NOT need to be profiled...they were doing their job, for God's sake. It has been 43 yrs & these young ladies with a bright futures had their lives compromised by Cooper. They do NOT continuely need to be put under a microscope by sick lusting individuals looking to make a buck or two...there should be boundaries. NO victim should ever have to relive those moments over & over. Bruce makes them victims again by doing one of this psycho profiles on them. What he is doing is sick & it needs to be stopped. Do not victims have rights? They don't need the rest of their lives compromised by Bruce with his contrite writings & he is into this only for $$$'s. He doesn't care who he hurts. A strange bully show up on my door & I will slam the door in his face! Bruce was encroaching on her privacy, but he treats that as her responsibliity. For GODS SAKE what happened to human decency! No one is safe from the rants of these writers...not even the victims. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Duane and his wife of the day were in WA in 1969 and they had gone to Bremerton to see her son....they got pulled over - but not charged as one of them was sober enough to drive. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Regardless - Cooper did make it and there was more than ONE person involved in the conception....how many I do not know. The idea was merrily concieved and there was no planning of an actual crime. What was the reason for this Skyjacking? Did he or they need the money? Whatever or whoever made the skys even more dangerous & more people thought they could do what Cooper did. A lot of them went to prison, but Cooper was the only unsolved one. If it was a group of men - why didn't they ask for more money...? Was the actually skyjacking idea born, but not committed by others? It was a group of guys playing poker - not one of them ever thought any one of them would ever actually do it! When the caper happened they all figured they would get blame or caught up in a conspiracy theory & careers & lives would be destroyed. Not to mention doing time - just because they talked about how a skyjacking could be done without getting caught! Two individuals pulled it off - a man or two men or a man & a woman? At any rate the others knew who Cooper was or did they? If Cooper was part of a gambling game and using an alias - did they really know who he was - the problem was as a group the crime was concieved...and implications could and in all probability would be made. Some wear many hats in this and the CAT caught the Mouse...No the CAT won the Mouse in that poker game. The CAT was a CON man who used what he learned. It took a couple of yrs of planning and learning everything he needed to know...but, when someone actually did it - they all knew they could be held responsible. Not one of them knew Cooper's REAL name until the day they saw his picture in a newpaper in 2000. Cooper was a DIRTY ROTTEN CRIMINAL. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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In South Wa. the plane was EAST of Vancouver and in the suburbs of that area...and made a sharp turn just NorthEast of there.... The plane crossed the riiver near the PDX which would be approx 2 miles north West of the PDX. This map shows the flight path crossing the river about 1 1/2 to 2 miles EAST of the interstate. Another abrupt turn was made North and east above the Vancouver suburbs limits. Can't read what is written there but like ngreen the ink markings cover up the first part of that word....this was at 20:16 This is the fartherest SOUTH possible reaction for the aftway experience but at what point did they feel the curtesy. The most likely is North of the 20:15 location. The 20:15 point was most likely for the stairway to pop back up creating the surge the crew felt. This point was the sharpest turn the plane made - but Cooper jumped before that - he was already on the aftway & the curtesey was the aft way popping up. The Curtesey was most likely made be caused by the shift of the direction with the wind that made the aftway move up. Cooper had exited some where between 2011 and 2014. The elavation changed between 2011 & 2014 and the pilot pulled back on his speed around 20:12. He wanted to give Cooper the edge to get him off of that plane. There was wind and rain and cross directional wind and a change of speed. You have to work with ALL of that. This is my theory from what little I know about planes, chutes, winds, and the aft stairs....seriously doubt Cooper was on board when the curtesy happened...it happened because of the winds & the excelleration & the turn at 20:15. Cooper was already gone! Use logic and you know Cooper did not jump into the river or in Vancouver....he would have been seen. I was bad weather, but people were watching & it was still early evening....Rain or no rain...Cooper was gone before the 20:15 and he was North of Orhards ....... Use a little logic and this was the map the searchers were using - that was clear for an actual photo posted on this thread...of men on the ground. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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I am enlisting the help of the AIRFORCE...you guys do know I live between several bases. Naval Air Station to the West. Whiting (mostly helicopters) Eglin Hurlbert I do NOT know how to explain these maps - but, obviously what has been tooted by Robt 99 is a little different than these maps - but, they appear to be the SAME maps being used by Robt99. Since the NO is on them I have to assume they came from the same source...but, some place there is another set of maps...the ones Sluggo seemingly lost...and ended up with the ones with the NO on them. The originals did NOT have the NO on them.... Sluggo sent the orginals on a disk which will NOT open....He had the same problem and had hoped what he sent me was not corrupted...but, like his set - they did not open. This was yrs ago. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Individuals who claim they had to go to the other site for the wrong reasons. Yet, 2 individuals who post on the other place only come here to trash Blevins...this thread is not about Blevins and Kenny - it is about Cooper. If you guys would let up maybe the thread could stay on target, but this is about numbers & money & why the other place was done...some of them do NOT want the truth about the flight to be known. How they can obviously support their flight path findings & money theory thing is for the birds. Many of them claim knowledge they do not really have. I have a copy of the flight path - it is very large and sent in 3 parts...very detailed...it has the route and the times and the locations all marked very specifically...I am going to start posting by times the path of the plane. Now I do not know how to do co-ordinates and these maps are too LARGE for me to scan. I am requesting the discussion of suspects be abstained from so an intelligent & fact finding discussion can take place about the flight. NO discussions about suspects or negative slashing at others. Before this case can be solved it has be know the exact path as per the FBI and the AIRLINES. Documented path and using language all can understand and taking segments of the map portions to be discussed as we progress...Someone else with have to post the map sections as I cannot.... IT is time this was done without any corruption between personalities... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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I am NOT going to allow you to pull me into this again - you consistently just keep on repeating the same old same old...you never show any proof - because you have no proof...you know you have conceived to deceive... In the original 101 - the man ID'd himself as a PI. The man on the 101 did not sound like you - by that I mean the way you write. I thought it might have been you since get go - because of the things you said - same as the PI on 101 said...remember how I have 3rd degreed you on certain phrases? Then you back off on Paradise! The Paradise Park & the woman who rode horses....since you have been consistent - it was the PI posting there...he forgot he sent me a message.....duh! I was keying in PI's because the FBI was not doing anything - that is how I found 101...by keying Cooper and Private Investigators. At that time I did NOT have a clue what I was doing...just searching for someone to help me and to find out what I could on D.B.Cooper. As for Geetsman. I did not know the last name just her first name...and the man she was with had a relative who lived in the Panhandle! He had drove down & she flew down...he was picking her up at the shop....she must have taken a taxie to the shop, but if was not very far. That man may not have been Mr. Geestman. YOU never provided me with a picture of her from around that time...I can assure you that even if you jumble up pictures of other women from 1990 to 1993 that I will be able to pick her out...she was still dying her hair at that time! WHY have you not asked the family about her appearance during that time & about the suit - a color I will never forget? Because it will blow your story apart! The suit she was wearing that day in Pensacola - Not Blue & Not Green - the most unique color I had ever seen & it was tailored - why I thought she was a sales rep. I sent you a slight history about the individuals they would know in common & YOU never ever replied...there is only one reason you would not do so - you knew you had not been 100% truthful and you did NOT talk to your 'witnesses' to ask them about the family names & connections. "Kenny died on July 30, 1994" that would be why Duane asked about Kenny & he did say the name Kenny. He already knew Kenny was sick.... This would be between 1991 & 1993 - when they came to FL. I narrowed down the time frame for you!