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Robert 99 I save all emails sent to me and I to you - nothing bad at all. You just do not like it because I know enough about you to know what side you are on - I pegged you a long long time ago.... When you pulled the NO HOUSE thing I knew you were not all you presented yourself to be. Anything I have to say to you does not need to be private...I say it here in this thread. So stop you BALONEY! You have NOT presented an ariel with a date 1971 or 1979...remember I was in Wa in 1979 and 2001 and there is and was a house. One of the Fazio's verified this in a conversation just a few wks ago. I have a friend who is sending pictures of the house....as it was in 2001. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Is the attached the same Ellie (Elly) you are talking about? Did she used to sing and play a piano in Bars. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Are you saying that Anderson, Scott or Rataczak may have been gay? OMG. What will Jo say? You have a very sick mind! Why don't you tell the thread about your problem & why you cannot go back to where ever the incident or incidents occured? Why I think you are capable of harming others! You never grew up - you just ran away from the problems.... Why I think you are capable of violent actions! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I do not have a date stamped on my foot. I simply stated I won't be here in March - that was referring to the thread. Not my life expectacy. I can no longer care for my home and need to sell it, but the repressed Market has hindered that & now another Re-po on one side. Obstacles and more obstacles. That was one I was NOT expecting. Devalues my home. I am NOT well - that is a given, but so far they cannot give a specific diagnoses. Right now my life seems to revolve around Dr.'s appointments. The rashes are unrelenting and I have lived with those for 10 yrs now, but they are worse & the fatigue is overwhelming...I have 2 more up-coming appts....the hemolotogist wants me back in his office & the cancer markers are up. Other Blood tests have been bad for the last 3 yrs. I have another appts for some biopsies - they do not know what they are looking for - but it is not good. The fatigue level is really bad & posting is very difficult for me. You are becoming like everyone else - you just want me to be dead, but I as long as I am alive and I have a voice I will do what I can do. Being able to go to WA is just giving myself something to look forward to. THANKS for the RUDE demeaning & derogatory words. Hope someone treats you with the same respect you throw at me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

He just went to bed pretty angry! He is just a yr older than my oldest daughter. He was a change of life baby. I need a cheap or free place in WA for about a month in the early fall...if I make it that long. Just a room with a bath (tub), coffee pot and microwave & FRige.. NO strong cleaners or deordorizors - I am highly allergice to colonges, perfumes, cleaners, soaps - room sprays - etc. Perferably a room in someone's home. The pictures the fbi REFUSED to use & the conversations with the composite artist - are going to be scattered all over the media & the state of WA and OR and CA. The Jefferson records will be made PUBLIC so everyone can see WHY the FBI missed Cooper. Hell, the FBI didn't even know his name...they were looking for JOHN COLLINS...not Duane L Weber.. He have verification of his connections to Air American and Gilliam - this will be made public. We have verification of his relative connections in WA. We have verification of the AWARE & CAT connections....started in CA before he was sent to WA & in WA. He was never in the prison ward or McNeil..he was part of a new program to retrain 1st time criminals...guess WHO headed this program up in the mid 40's? A good friend of the FAMILY! THE FBI missed a hell of a lot! WHY? One might think they were afraid they would hold some responsibility after all of these yrs....they should. but the man who made the mistakes aren't around anymore....it is a matter of present FBI conceding that old FBI missed the target. The target wasn't meant to be found - this was not done for profit - just to see if it could actually be done! But the act in itself being a crime wasn't meant to be a crime - just letting them know how fallible the system was -& by hell if they didn't get caught up in the biggest man hunt in history... They could never tell what they did! At least it helped get the Cooper Vane placed - & the manufacture had been told this type of opening was an invitation to criminals. It was gnored by all who ever tested the equipment & why the testing was kept secret - but a couple involved in the testing - talked & so the BIG one was planned. The sucess of that jump - created copy cats & caused inidviduals to get harmed & even killed. They all lived with that for the rest of their lives. None of them had ever murdered anyone in their life. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

My brother has an account on my computer so when he comes to visit he is able to talk to his wife. WELL, he could contact his wife and tried to see what was going on on the other thread. I told him he would not be able to get there because of the IP. He got angry - He knows I do NO know his pass word & I do not go there. I have another account set up for my granddaughter. I do not know their pass word... Lizzys bring her own now & somehow feeds off of one of the neigbors -/?????? She has developement problems so I guess the don't mind & they are seldom home....she can hack into anything...but they know when she visits about one time a yr. She knocked knock on their door & askes if it was ok. She particpates in gaming all over the world. WHY she brings her own machine - I still do not understand how she feeds off their communications system - our homes are only 20 ft apart . It is her business & I do not get into it. The neighbor told me it was fine because by the time she is gaming in China they are asleep. She and they set it up nothing to do with me. What my brother found with his laptop well he hit the ceiling. He said you don't want to know what they are saying. I showed him the correspondences I provided to Vickie and he felt that I should NEVER have offered to help her at all. I should KNOW when I try to help some one I am the ONE SCREWED. He refused to let me see what you guys are saying. THIS much he told me....we ARE GETTING YOU to WA some way some how..... It would have to be someone going by way of RV as I would not be able to do a flight - as sitting for more than a couple of hours is very painful for me...and my resistance is so low that to explose me to flues or colds is not safe. ANY one in the AL. FL. GA or LA area have a RV and want to make a long trip to WA! I need a ride. He wants the pictures I have from JEFFERSON & the corrective ones being done - to be front page in WA and across the US. He wants people to know the attacks on me that have been made. - His words didn't make sense - a mountain I could never scale & that the BASTARDS in WA are aware of this. "They are making my sister out to be some kind of NUT or liar - she is NOT! They are making her out to be a hoare and a user." "NOT one of those bastards has been in this house to read the matierials or read the exchanges - yet they judge you". I knew I had said NOTHING that should have offered VICKY - infact I provided her information I should have kept secret - but, that is how I am being treated by the XXXS house as he called it. I didn't think of it that harsely, but was hurt I couldn't read the things being said. I do know that individuals claiming certain knowledge do NOT have the correct information...I have the correct information right here...Those so called ariels are WRONG! They have been TAMPERED with...The closes arial was taken in 1960's and it is of poor quality. The next ariels again look NOTHING like the ariels the guys are claiming were taken before and after the money find. Since the building is still there per residents I have kept in touch with - someone is altering information. Where the hell did they get those ariels & who suppylied them? The researacher only found one of the archived maps - seems as the others have gone POOF! NO ONE is supposed to remove information from those rooms. Who ever did MISSED one they thought was 2 old....or maybe filed in the wrong place. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have aol. old windows XP & cannot use chrome as a browers. I have othe PDF files saved I can read - so do not understand why I can't read this one. NOT feeling very good at all. I hope u guys finally have some resolutions. I regret some of you think so little of me. I have told the truths and I do not lie - white lies to save grace for others, but never anything like what I have been accused of here on the DZ. I am sleeping 12 hours plus per day and trying to read the paper - well, I wake up with it all over the place. Hardly have the energy to go to the grocery or down to the convenience store - very tired & tired of trying to get anyone to listen & to hear me. No one really listening to me anymore. Today has been a VERY bad day. I won't be around too much longer & loosing the ability to defend myself. I SWEAR by all I HOLD dear I have tried to get people to under stande me & to show them what they need. THE FBI & certain individuals in the thread have attempted to create a negative opinion of me to the public. They KNOW I have told the truths. I don't know the details - but I do know Duane Weber was John C. Collins and he committed the crime in 1971. I know Duane knew Vickie's father regardless of what she thinks. Duane was involved in many things - during the yrs he just disappeared off the face of the earth. I am going to get in the whirlpool & try to relax * I am so tired * in so much pain - emotionally & physically - I wish all of it would go down the drain with the water. Not uncommon for me to get into the whirlpool at 4 AM to ease the pain so I can sleep....won't wake up until around 1 PM & then go out to get the paper and fall asleep after 2 cups of coffes and trying to work my puzzles. When I have Dr.'s appt or something that has to be done on the clock - I get thru those days... I can't fight this battle any more - it has taken 18 yrs of my life away from me & I do not have much left. Our government has secrets & some of you just want to be know it alls & some of you have not one bit of common sense or are GAME players. These yrs have been wasted - my life has been wasted. I should have sold my home & have gone to WA and fought my battle right there in the face of the FBI in 2008 - now it is too late. The last 6 yrs has taken its toll. The FBI knows they are with holding evidence - the old FBI covered it up - they didn't just cover it up they buried it...with the help of the US govenment or under the orders of the goverment. I have one goal left. To put the hard copies of those negative into the eyes of the public. Cooper had been buried just like the goverment has buried all of its other DIRTY secrets. I am ashamed to be an AMERICAN! I am ashamed of what this world has become & how the people have become. Every time you turn on the TV it is more & more crime. Crime is all you read in the newspaper. There is NOTHING good in the world to look forward to anymore. Nuts out there telling stories to get attention & making up stories for financial gain...NO ONE really wants the truth. I understand the US Government does not want to admit a handful of renegades who were hand picked actually pull one off on the government or with the help of the governme - But it did happen! HEll, it happens everyday now. Politics are dirty & the people in the world are self centered....like Blevins & Bruce they never one time followed up on anything I sent them. It is all about MONEY and recognition with both of them. NEITHER one cares about the truth or the real guys involved in Cooper. Some of you just have time to kill time or because it is something that truely interests you. Others are just here to agitate & argue & play games.... they do not want the truth. Their theories and stories are what they want to live on. So much FALSE information has been presented on this thread it is pathetic. In the beginning the DZ was the place to be & the postings informative, but then came what I call hoares - those who work the information to make money or a name for themselves. They do not want the truth. There are those who also came here to conceal the truths - note how new individuals would pop in when JO got too close...or someone came to the thread with some really good information...3 guys contacted me I believe where ligitimate - but they wanted no part of the thread and could not expose their real names.. All 3 are gone now. 2 of them are deceased and the 3rd one - I think he still lofts around - but what they knew would have changed their lives & they chose to sit out. I am VERY exhausted and tired. TIME for SOMEONE to tell the truths. I viewed those ariels again and those ariels are NOT 1971 ariels or even 1979 ariels, because the shed is not there and the tributary that was there in 2001 is not there. Shows an elongated building where the house should have been. But there was NO building or other buildings that large in 2001 or in 1979. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You keep attaching PDF Files and I cannot open them and do not understand - They go to my pictures and there is Zero there. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

When Cooper sent Tina Forward he had tied part of the money to him but it was dragging the floor. Also remember he had a lot of time to secure the money in alternative ways AFTER he sent Tina Forward. I expect this is when he decided to use the front chute for a package - she did NOT see him do this and why NO one found the darn X chute - he used it with the cord and secured the money & the pack to his body in the same manner smokejumpers secured their pacs and the same as the Nam forces did. Improvise - he knew the chute was good and the front pack was useless without the d-rings...so he was MAKING DO! Duane's favorite expression Making Do! With the cord and with the packing he was able to make a comfortable rig. He knew his ropes & made one really bad mistake in his past by not secureing knot correctly over Alaska during some tests with Gilliam....but he learned tying a knot someones life depended on - not to ever make again. This time it was his own. I expect he may have thrown packing to the chute out before he jumped just to test the wind, but maybe it was knotted so he could use it to secure the package better and to provide some padding so he didn't get hurt....maybe there was something else in that dummy and not a chute - NOW that is speckulations. Being a DUMB CROOK he probably threw it out before he jump to test the wind and didn't even thing about someone finding it. Duane told me if the man had died because of his bad knot the man would have died...but they managed to get him back in. I didn't understand what he was talking about but I do now. The experiment was a prototype test being done by private individuals in Alaska and they were NOT military. Some of this post is speculation on my part know how Duane could make do with very little and still produce a product that someone else wanted or needed. He was a jack of all trades. He learned how to this with CAT and the smokejumpers - so he knew what to do. NONE of you know what CAT has to do with AWARE, but I do. His Good friend were AWARE and he worked with CAT. Aware built airstips and Cat built the towers....they all knew each other. The BOYS flying in and out of the vairous air ports...don't any of you get this - if now you are idiots...I am a woman and it did NOT talke me long to find become AWARE of the CAT and the connections...Mildred's husband was A Ford - a man who was questioned about the skyjacking. He had an alibi. He died and she remarried another man who worked in the same field. I met her after that. In the beginning I connected this but was dissed. Later I talk about it again but in more detail and at the same time discuss Mouse and a murder/suicide. I got a warning: Too much infomation can be very dangerous. I will say it again Mildred T was Mildred Ford. So you will telling whoppers in these threads? NOT me. Good NIGHT now I am really haveing a hard time keeping a thought.. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Page 17 of Himmelsbacks book. Emrich didn't want to give away the new chutes so he picked out out the older ones - NOT the FBI is there to get the CHEST CHUTES. Emrich noted one of the chest Chutes had a big BLACK X on it and WONDERED what it meant. That is all I can do for you guys tonight - this last post was difficult even though I was taking it from the books... If you want you can look further and find that I am CORRECT & you will also learn why Emrich didn't know what the X meant! These particular FACT are written in other materials including media sources. SO GUYS - I hope you like CROW! Meds are getting to me - so that is it at least for now. I will state one thing - the Amboy CHute was BURIED! It was under a tree, but of course the tree had grown and the ROOTS of the tree were the reason they could NOT get all of that AMBOY Chute out. NO one went back to see if there was anything else buried there. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I just took my medication so I hope I don't screw-up. Get some FACT straight! Cossey was contacted by someone form the FBI about securing the emergency chutes. Cossey stated had the 2 back chutes he had just packed. He did not have the chess chutes. He tells Lee the emergency chutes at the Parachute schools were not equipped with D-Rings and could not be attached. Now this is in Himmelsbachs book and obviously the man writing the book for Mr. Himmelsbach screwed up. Page 14. This was one of the errors pointed out to me yrs and yrs ago by none other than Himmelsbach. Cossey had the 2 BACK chute and they were ready to go, but he didn't have the chest chutes. He told Lee he could pick-up the chest chutes from Linn Emrich at his parachute school and gave them his phone number. The BACK CHUTES had D-rings and what has emerged from the media is incorrect. The writers and the media were not clear on things just like some of you whuffos are not because you did not read and re-read the book nor have you actually spoke to the individuals. Emrich said he would provide the chest chutes and would be there to meet them after Lee contacted him. Since I am getting groggy I will find the article regarding Emrich and his pulling the Chest Chute and that he made a mistake. I did not quote the book but you will find the above information on Page 14 of Himmelsbachs book. Remember I have a good memory & there is a section in this book or in Tosaws book or a news article where Limerich admits his fault in this. See next post. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

WOW! I need a care taker: Even I couldn't figure out what I was trying to say.... Stupid me came back to read the thread AFTER I had taken my darn pill and I know better than to try to make a post after taking that darn thing. Remember that when it is 12 midnight there it is 2 AM here. ***ALL ANYONE HAS ON THE AMBOY CHUTE IS WHAT THE FBI Released. The Dummy chute was basically unusable. They used old chutes inside of them & they usually were ripped up and cut up to stuff the training front pack...not meant to be used for actually jumping... The Dummy should NOT even have been in the stock room. Its purpose is to teach someone how to put it on - not use it. The guy who grabbed it was new and did NOT have the experience that has been probagated in this thread. I forget the guys name, but back in the very beginning after I spoke to Cossey many yrs ago - I asked how this could happen. Some of you on the thread have claimed the man who passed it out was a trained jumper....but, I was told it was the first time he had pulled the chutes and was unfamiliar with the stock room...he should have known better, but then maybe he did it on purpose. Wasn't it CRAZY Knoss who claimed it contain jump boots & then some have claimed other things....I have not taken this up with you guys because it seemed irrelevant to me. The guy made a mistake - because he was new. Only the person who prepared it knows what was in it....one would think the FBI would have questioned that indivdiual for an explanation. If that dumy was given out on purpose there are very few answers as to why.... That dummy if removed would have been the idea place to put the money. Note how the fire jumpers carried their equipment and how the guys in Nam carried other supplies to the ground. Pouches & containers that looked very much like the front chute and sometimes hung a little lower than a regular reserve. Maybe Cooper used it for shelter or maybe he burned it after he got to the ground. I expect there was NO hardware inside of the front pack - just stuffing....but why was such a mistake made? Cooper should have been very angry if he was aware of what it was & if he had a bomb and a temper tantrum at the same time. The plane could have gone POOF. You think! It was the one thing I really thought was very odd, but let it be like leaves of three. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

GUY ALL ANYONE HAS ON THE AMPBOY CHUE IS WHAT THE fbi HAS RELEASED. THE dUMMY CHUTE WAS BASICALLY UN USUABLE EXCEPT FOR COVERATGE.'BY THIS THEY MEAN TH CHUTE WLL PROVIDE AS SAFTE RID AND PERHAPHS HHOLD OTHER SERVIVIAL GEAR....IT IS TIEDS in A WAY IF IS USUALBLE. the chute was ususuavble protections. Per jummper with this one he was very safe. Lots of spacecto tye off his goods. BECAUSE HE COULD MAKE PROVISION AND PROTECTION FOR THE ELEMENTS ON THE GROUD. AWAY IT WAS MADE WOULD HVE PROVIDED HE ME NESSARY PROTECTIONS GAINST THE ODDS. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

These Guys are just messing with you - they want to make you mad and they want to close this thread down so all of their false information will be all that is available to the public. Stop interacting with them on certain issues - stick to what you can BACK up with MEDIA releases...by the FBI and those interviewed. I was told where the chute was found, but for some reason they are misdirecting individuals regarding that old chute - perhap to keep people from going out & digging up private property. Duane talked about burying something when we were in Amboy and he pointed out a place but how far back I do not know. I wanted to know if the area Duane talked about and the chute find were anywhere close to each other...but the people I have asked did not know the location. The location Duane pointed out was West of Amboy and just off of Cedar Creek Rd. I do not remember how far WEST we went. He made a comment regarding a turn off to the North onto private property that he knew a man who used to live up there...and he mentioned lots of Creeks. We turned around and head back to the EAST and Duane made a comment about "they must have taken that road out" as it was short cut back to Amboy. But the road was still there...but, I never found it on the little map I have. At any rate it took us back to Amboy and then he makes another side trip going EAST on 419 and pointed out Chelatchie and the place the kept the cars. We keep going to an area that was not too far from the Yale Lake Damn. This was the point he told me about knowing a man who used to work there & lost his job because of a GLITCH, but he got his job back after a few wks. Evidently Duane knew the man personally. This is when he told me you could see the light from that area for MILES! I didn't think we went back the way we went but the map doesn't show and alternative unless we actually crossed the Lewis River and drove along the River and coming back by 503....This is a blank spot in my memory...it had been a long day and I do know know what drove him because remember we didn't leave the Dalles until Noon time & we made LOTS of detours - of course he drove like a bat out of hell and he never had to look at a map so I wasn't following a map...just tried over the yrs to retrace the places he took me and the sequence of the stops. WE go back to AMBOY and he makes a stop at a BAR on our right side & on a corner. He told me to stay in the car because he was just going into enquire about a guy who used to go there. The building in 1979 was blue or a blue green. He comes back to the car very quickly & just said they had not seen him in a long time. When I went back out there in 2010 - I spoke to two old guys in the parking lot (I did not want to go into the BAR - I just do not do that alone in a place like that). I believe at that time I remembered a name - or they told me a name. This has become cloudy in my mind now...and since I have told the story before - I am sure the earlier version may have been in more detail. He stops at a Store on our RIGHT after we turned back toward the direction we had come from...this is a pit stop and to pick up some snacks...he wanted in and out pretty fast. We went to Amboy by way of a road that past an air strip owned by the Farghers and Duane talked about flying in an out of there - it was a private strip back when ever he flew in and out of there. He also mentioned another airstrip North and East of there. He knew every ficking airstrip in WA. WHY and HOW? Who the hell was he flying with....he only referred to them as The Boys & The Guys. I will mention that the woman in BIGGS - he went to see - her maiden name was Fargher and Duane mentioned the connection. I forget her first name now - but it seem like it was Mattie & now have lost the last name she had - somewhere in all of my STUFF is her name - she had a son or grand son who had a motel and Duane told me to STAY in the car. His first name was Stanley and he was a jumper. ALL of the names and more details are in this thread some place some where. I am praying someone will record this thread & remembered the story I tried to tell. Yea, I am learning to pray. Someday someone one will figure it all out. I hope! I can NO longer retain all the information in my head. Wish there was someway to put the entire thread on discs - so someone someday mighty realize that JO really did know things she was NOT supposed to know & definitely things not expected to know. Remember what Duane said about Kelly Rd & he thought he had missed a path but he hadn't (He used to know someone who lived there) and then we go back to Heisson. I will ever forget that place. A playpen and a wood stove in the entrance. It was also the P.O. We had drove past there before when he drove out to Basket Flat and toward Lucia Falls and he pointed out the train stop was no longer there. This is when he talked about a tower that was there NO longer - this was on our way to Amboy - but I have not figured out how he got over to the Road we went to Amboy on. I just know we went by way of Fargher Airstrip on Lewisville hwy and came back making a stop at the Heisson Store. My old accounting is probably more accurate - but, some how we went to Amboy by way of the Lewisville Hwy and came back to Heisson - hitting Heisson twice but with only one stop. This is NOT how I originally remember it - and think my trip with Himmelsback and the crew really go me turned around. At any rate this is the best I can do tonight...if anyone is really interested in the truth. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BRAVO! A very good post and it was factual. I edited it to keep to the point I would like to make about liberaties taken by certain poster who are prominent posters on in that othe place. Robt99 had consistently made false allegations and provide false information...why does he do this? A very good question for other to think about. That other place defies the odds on the money find & it is a group of people who do NOT care about REAL facts...they create FACTS of their own just to dismiss statements by others. Why they do this is no mystery regarding 2 of the posters - the 2 who pretend to be such experts & who actually make the most factual errors - they do that ON purpose to keep the public confused. Perhaps it is time that this thread is used for facts and not the promotion of any particular subject such as Kenny or Duane. What needs to be done is to make those who market themselves as experts - be required to present factual back-up for their speculations. They Can't! They created the other place & the things they come up with are baloney! Robt 99 and Georger create their OWN facts...they ignore the factual data & the logical data...just to deceive & to make themselves appear to be important. Perhaps what they are doing is called distract and redirect. Deceive the public & distract the public from the REAL facts...they do NOT want the case solve & their sole purpose in getting involved. These guys seem to ignore the fact that I actually spoke to WASHINGTON DC officials who were trying to get some of the REAL information released....but the government deceptions out lived them and now probably JO. The recognitions that could not be given in 1969 is why a group of men decided to prove a point. The flight route - they have that so fragmented now and propose to have the documents - they are working with ALTERED documents and NOT the real one. Also Robt 99 kept claiming there was NO building or house - well there was - they cannot erase history and old photos in journals and newspapers and in the albums of many who went to Tena's barl I have people in WA trying to locate those pictures right now. Why would an arial be altered to not show a dwelling on the site? The ariels from 1960's are not very good at all - so how and who created such detail. Did Duane and Himmelsbach and a documentary crew take me to another location? I don't think so! Robt99 & Georger are all about deception - but, why? Why say there was NO building about 35 yds behind the fence and the tree line....why does the ariel show only a dark area there? It was not on the beach it was several yards beyond the fence and tree line and I can put an X where the money find was. 2 individuals have introduced MUCK they claim to be FACTS & claim the basckground for the MUCK. Other who have never been there are feeding on those claims. Those who have never been there and those who claim to have been there need to produce actual pictures taken in 1968, 1969, 1970, and 1971 and thru period up until 1979. Bet Amazon has some pictures taken from the river...of Tena's bar & the background beyond it. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

His reactions are more than eagerness. They are obcessive & abusive. You have never treated your witnesses the way Bruce has treated others? Your attitude toward me is always quiet, but communicate with me and others in a civil way at all times...I have NOT known you to loose your cool - not one time. Rethink your statement about Bruce. Eager is not the correct word...and his own writings indicate he has a problem. Bruce has a history he does not discuss.... Perhaps some one should do an EXTENSIVE background check on him. Has his obcessions cause problems in his past? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

YOU were broke - dead broke at that time. Explain how you were able AFTER THE FACT - to be on site of the murder & in the face of the FBI & or other investigative agencies? WHO financed your continued exposure to the murder scene? WHO provided you the transportation? It was a given fact you had serious financial problems...at that time. Knowing your history of showing up unannounced at the homes of your victims & your negative remarks about Cossey & his refusing to talk with you...made you a suspect. The circumstances & your prior agressive behaviour with me & with others makes you a suspect. Your postings in the days before Cossey was found deceased ...you were obcessing about his rejection of you......he was deflating your ego with his rejections. YOU are NOT nice to others who STAND up against you & your own reactions is past issues makes you a suspect. I personally experienced your crude and rude and intrusive mannerism as have others. Knowing your anger issues & prior rude unannounced interviews of others makes you a suspect. Issues regarding your financial situation at that time is suspect. . The fact that COSSEY was a spit fire -he would not have been receptive to a surprise visit. You had posted your frustrations regarding Cossey in this forum. Did you treat him the way you treated Tina and her family member? Your greed & aggression issues regarding Cooper victims makes you a suspect! That is your own undoing.......... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Cannot be opened until 2025 - I won't be alive - that is not fair - plus I don't know what name he was using at that time. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

ALL I did was share with her some of my prior research and the story I told her was true, but at that time I did NOT know anything about Vickie and her trying to find her daughter. The only reason I researched the infomationg given to me many many yrs ago was because of Duane's mention of knowing the name who Counterfeit the 20's - I was reading an article in the Atlanta Journal when Duane said that. When Vickie came to the thread I immediately started trying to find that old information - it had been yrs and I could find nothing in my files - and I do clean them out and discard things that I do not think relevent 3 or 4 yrs later...otherwise I wouldn't have room for the important stuff. I made ZERO up. I tried to find the information and MY daughter remembered calling me and telling me about the article - that is why I researched it. I have told what I remember and I still believe that man was Vickie's dad. If I had a few Thousand buck and the health she and I would go on a trip to all of the small towns - near water. I remembered it was near water. The story the man told me I remembered very clearly - but, something I have to let go of. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Seems as though the other thread has claimed I accused Bruce of Murder & that I owed Vickie an apology. Bruce went back and deleted his posting, but I copied his post to my post. LETS get to the ROOT of what was said. First think about HOW many time I have been called a liar...and then read the rest of this with some comprehension. IT will take several posting to clear this up but I DID not accuse anyone of murder. What I did was comment on what was said by Bruce....in his own posting. THE BELOW is a QUOTE FROM a post made by BRUCE - one he quickly deleted: "1. When Cossey hung up on me, I had just asked him why he had sent his parachutes to Boeing Field and not Sea-Tac. I can't state for a fact WHY Coss hung up, but it may have been because he didn't want to answer such a probing question. 2. When I showed up unannounced at his house, he was already dead. I didn't think it would be a problem. Again, I was acting as a journalist." I replied very quickly because it sounded like Bruce was confessing: BESURE you READ what he said above "WHEN I showed up unannounce at his house, he was already dead. I didn't think it would be a problem. Again, I acting as a journalist." THAT was NOT me accusing Bruce of MURDER - but, it did lead me to point this out to him. Bruce made the statement & I QUOTED HIM pointing out what he had just stated. Now I am banned from their site because I accused Bruce of MURDER - he confessed right here on this thread! That or he was intoxicated. I didn't make that statement - Bruce made that statement himself. I wasn't accusing him of murder - I was pointing out WHAT he had just stated! SECOND PART: In a prior post way back before this he was raging about Cossey. NO ONE pisses Bruce off without his making retorting remarks & out & out lies about the person. It is Bruce's way or no way at all. If he doesn't like the person & they do not bow to his reqest - he rages. A little bird told me yrs ago that Bruce does NOT handle NO very well. MY SEARCH ABILITIES ARE NOT GOOD, BUT SOME OF YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND FIND THE OTHER ANGRY DEROGATOR REMARKS HE MADE ABOUT OTHER ATTEMPTS TO INTEVIEW INDIVIDUALS. THIRD PART: Bruce does NOT like being told NO or being refused an interview...he retaliates with vile & repulsive remarks. He has done this with Tina, her family and with me. When they will not talk to him - he makes things up about them. NOTE Bruces' Wording "when I showed up on his door he was dead". That was written in present tense - so it is fair to deduce Bruce was there before & NOT after Cosseys' death was annnounce. BRUCE WAS INCRIMINATING HIS OWN SELF! Now it has been twisted that I accuse Bruce - READ his statement as it was Quoted! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Was Gary Thornhill related to the man in the photo below? Was Snowman a man by the name of Buck? Stuart Roosa became an Astronaut but he knew Cooper. If Snowman was Buck then he knew Mouse. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Supposedly the individuals you interviewed were familiar with Puyallup and the Gilliam Family and the Stuckee house. Also other individuals & suspects in the Cooper saga lived in that area. No one every mentions other families who lived in the area and were also connected to the Cooper saga...makes me wonder why! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Duane won Mouse in a gambling game. 1947 or was it 1969. Guess who Mouse belonged to? Mouse is how old now? The guys at this game were from all walks of life....ALL! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The King County Sheriff's OFFICE needs to be made aware of the activities of Bruce Smith 3 months prior to the murder of Cossey. It is all right here in this thread. Everyone raved about the interview that Bruce did on the man who supplied the chutes for Cooper in the DZ. Smith was obcessessed with getting an interview with Cossey. Then suddenly he is quiet - no mention of Cossey until his death is announced. Something like a wk or so. Some how he acquires access to funds and a vehicle to be there every day harassing the authorities. Check out Bruce's background in the EAST! Remember Bruce's agressive interview with Tina and with her Brother in law. This has bothered me for some time now - only because I am aware of problems Bruce had back east & how agressive he was with me. Also if he doesn't like you - he will slaughter you with his writings....this is not an example of a well balanced man. Go back to when Bruce 1st started in this thread and read and watch the evoluotion - from polite to volitale to disinteresting. I consider his writings about me as being volatile and agressive - because he doesn't like me and I don't give him the information he wants. Since I won't be around much longer I felt this needed to be said one more time....Bill never got the proof of what Bruce was going to write - and Bruce did what he is famous for doing - telling his crude side of things. Bill didn't know he had to be careful what he said to Bruce - he didn't know Bruce would use every word to insult others. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber