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I have highlighted the posting with emphasis underlined. How objectivily do you READ a book or have you read a book of any substance. Try reading The Journals and anything written by James A Mitchener - such as Mexico or Texas. Keyword - you can LEAD a horse to Water, but you cannot make him drink. It would be this Canon City Release photo you are referring to. A place he was encarcerated from 1960 to 1962. It was in the middle of an immense wooded area and a place some very secretive thing took place in 1962. His gruby clothing and shoes which may have been provided by the prison is what I am referencing. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Hopefully, it WILL end. Paul Quade is probably getting tired of it. I get the idea that the next ban he does on us will be The Land of No Return. He's done it twice already, and the last time came with a serious warning. Perhaps the moderator just wants THIS. Blevins - first I like you, but you act like a 6 yr old. The above post is an excellent example of this. WHY do you ALWAY talk about banning and Quade and running to the teach like a 6 yr old. The only thing you need to do is MAKE sure YOU do not say anything that would cause you to be BAN from the thread. This is NOT Kindergarten or 1st grade. Do NOT engage - for example when a certain poster on here trys to drag my post into the ground or to continually confront me... it is difficult to just address the problem with a short statement - NO one reads the long objections. I am just as quilty as you are of letting individuals pull me into an endless and useless series of postings. WE both need to learn to make a short statement addressing the individual and then move on. IT is a HARD thing to do! . Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Duane was hardly a boy in 1961. Prior to 1961 he had been a resident of San Quentin, Folsom and was a current resident in Canon City in 1961. Doubt he QUALITFIED for juvenile rehab facilities in 1961.

Quoteit's Chrsitmas Eve! Fine sorry. but you have to link him to November 24, 1971 period! not in the other 49 states you places Duane in, show physical evidence of your claims, I don't care if he was a jumper, put him in Portland or Seattle or your just barking! you make outlandish claims Jo, I found a website you had years back claiming after Duane's release "believe that he had some kind of forestry training" ......from prison photo? by the way, you said this " I do believe John Anglin might be Ed Hurand" that's admission Jo! Quote I said MIGHT BE! It is a LONG jump to saying he Was! That statement is by NO WAY admission. I claimed he had forestry training because he told me he did. How could I claim that from a prison photo? YOUR post are inflammatory and a complete waste of time. WHAT happened to your FLIGHT Similation? You ARE the one who seems to be BARKING not me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

This could be because when people get pulled over by the police in Washington State, if they have been in prison here the dispatcher always says this: The young lady must have been working late: I got an email from her for Xmas Eve. Their records do NOT go beyond 1950. She checked the records under his name only and his SS number. She requested any alias or other information she could check under and made a suggestion of who I might contact and what I might be able to do to obtain records prior to 1950. I will do the aliases and his John Collins SS and see what happens....but that would only work if he was arrested there using that name. I really believe it was from 1944 to 1948 - because of his reference to "the boys". My only problem with that senario is WHY he feared going back in 1980. Therefore I tend to believe he went back on the run in the 60/s and was up to no good...he was running from the authorities from 1962 to 1966 under the name of John Collins when they arrested him and sent him to Jefferson. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have traced I hope Duane Weber to Spokane. When we were in CO he was offered a postion in Spokane, and I wanted to go, but he said he could NOT go to WA. It just took a tone when he said NO about something. I did NOT dig into his past - now I wish I had. He told me about Spokane, but NOT what he did there. When he was talking to this old friend who offered him a postion there - it was VERY obvious he had spent some time there. He even asked this man about another person who lived there. He spoke knowingly of the area. I am going to order a map of Spokane and the surrounding area - one I can hold in my hands on paper. I am trying to remember the man's name - do not know if he is still alive, but he lived in Spokane....Duane knew the area very well - per the conversation they had. I worked on this before, but didn't get anywhere with it. What puzzles me is why the FBI would not disclose any of Duane's Washington history. This is part of the story I have NOT told you guys and what I am working on. I don't need anyone going to sites for info as I tried that. I go straight to the horses mouth and right now I am looking for a historian in the area. Have contacted the local law enforcement, but did NOT find the infomation one site claimed was there - they want money it. Is there anyone on this thread or does anyone on this thread know a retired individual in Spokane about my age or older who would like to do some snooping in the county records....it is going to take physically going there to see the records and to review old newspapers - something I can no longer do. There were some camps not too far from Spokane and the boys would to Spokane and Cour'de lane. This is all I remember Duane ever telling me about the area on our trip (it was always the BOYS). Something Duane said on the 1979 trip...it has been hard, but I am managing to replay the trip in my mind and to recall as much as I can that he ever said about the area. It was during the early part of 1980 he had a discussion with the man in Spokane - strickly business....Can't remember where this conversation took place - perhaps Denver. This is what I know about Spokane and its relation to Duane Weber or whatever name he was using at that time. He was not only there in the 40's there was another time because he mention one of his wives name. She denied ever being in WA so I let it go. If he was in WA with this wife it could have been under the name of John Collins 1962-1970. She had 2 sons stationed in WA. Things add up and then they don't add up. I have taken my mind back to my explorations and for some reason I decided this was IMPORTANT enough to spend some time on. All of the above is the best I can remember he ever mentioned regarding Spokane. I am working hard to get as much out there as I can because I might not be able to tell it later. At my age - stokes, heart attack, more surgeries - the body and mind can only take so many assaults. TONIGHT IS CHRISTMAS EVE AND I MISS DUANE VERY MUCH. HE MAY HAVE BEEN A CRIMINAL, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MAN. I MISS THE THINGS HE WOULD DO ON CHRISTMAS EVE - IT WAS ALWAYS A SURPRISE FOR SOMEONE IN NEED EVEN WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE IT DO SO OURSELVES. Our first CHRISTMAS was in 1977 [RED]THE MEMORIES OF SPOKANE ARE MY GIFT FROM DUANE ON THIS CHRISTMAS EVE.[/RED] Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I posted to Unsolved Mysteries and that was YRS ago. I have been at the DZ since - I started the 1st Cooper thread. How long have I been posting to the DZ? Go back to the old thread I started or someone started for me and then this one. There was a very old thread I posted to in 2000 - and I knew very little then of what I know now. Currently have a lot of computer problems - can't stay on line very long - then POOF! Guess I need a new computer, but that is not in the budget...nor are expensive repairs. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Again - MORE incorrect information. I said Ed looked like the composite and indicated that he resembled John Anglin or could be a relative. The reasoning was ZONA! Me - sound like Knoss perhaps it is the other way around - you sound like Knoss, by taking my words and twisting them to fit your needs. I am NOT obilgated to present my ACE's in this thread. Sometimes my information does NOT pan out and you expect me to open myself up for more of the LIKES of U....Gotta be kidding yourself! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Duane's brother did NOT live in Florida nor did he die in Florida! The 2004 is the yr I met John in California.... Seems like individuals like you do not get the story straight about Weber even though I have told it over and over. The only word that comes to mind about you is one in the bible - one upon which Mary arrived at the manger. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yawn... Yet another threat of litigation by Jo. Anyone wanna bet on a case getting filed and served? Someone who repatedly files frivolous suits can be classified by a judge as a "vexatious litigant" and be barred from further filings. What do you call someone who threatens but never files? Sue someone Jo. Do it. Or have John's widow sue. Your or her meager finances will disappear so fast it will make your heads spin. Once you've actually done it you'll never threaten it again. 377 377, he posted information about a man who has NOTHING to do with this thread and who was NOT Duane's brother. There has to be a limit on things done in this thread by others who have no regard for privacy. I never said I would sue anyone - this was referencing relatives of individuals whose names and private information is expose within an element that makes them vulnerable to identity theft or worse. By using the man's name and private information including his SS # - what if a widow or another survivor draws off of IRA's or pensions using that number - is not anything private anymore? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I assure you - this: YOU have NO control. Do NOT think for one moment I you have influence my direction nor has Robert99 with the trivial put downs. You are just entertaining and I realize you do not have the cognitive abilities needed to produce real evidence. Others will tell you - I play along and then I POP something out that NO one expected. Even Georger did NOT see what is coming. Exactly what it will prove other than Duane had a background in a certain area I do not know. I communicate with the depts of the areas and not with a computer search program which charges outlandish fees for incorrect or invalid information. That is how people get themselves into financial trouble and then end not being able to pay the rent or buy gas. Do yourself a favor and tread carefully. You maybe a smart guy, but you are in over your head intellectually with Georger and 377 and many of the others. You have played a good game with your flight program, but you like myself are not a pilot nor an investigator. You like to play mind games and that is NOT what this forum is about. Your aren't going to solve this case with a computer and by badgering me. One has to know things that even the FBI does not know. It could be that one person who comes up with a solid clue that will bring the entire case together or prove that the Federal government has been incontrol the entire time. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Will probably be after the 1st of the yr due to the holidays, but I am elated about what I have found. IT proves the FBI did NOT investigate Duane's time in a certain area. This information was NOT available before as I actually spoke to the authorities in that area many many yrs ago. I did not use a computer and did LOTS of long distance phone calls and when I did get a computer in 2000 had little access to information. BUT in the defense of the FBI - it may have been an old closed file NO ONE even thought was remotely tangible. I won't reveal the source until I actually see it and read it myself. Just being aware that the file does exist - has me hoping. That old file if it has any details could put a completely different light on Weber and the investigation the FBI did. You are right! The act of highjacking a plane and hold hostages is NOT a rational thing to do...but desperate people do unthinkable things. When I receive this information I will post a request for you to open you PM's to me again. I want you to read the file when I get it and tell me how you feel. When it I see it it just may not mean anything and be why the FBI ignored it. I never had any luck before scanning documents but this one might be the most important thing I have ever found. The other documents others who are not investigatior clamour for me to post are NOT my finding and I promised not to make them available to the public. There is ONE thing you do know about me - that I follow thru with anything I tell you I am going to do. Remember that always and regardless of what you say in the thread about me - you old baboon you know I am real. MrShutter has NO idea what I am talking about....and it is going to be really difficult to sit on this for a few wks and I maybe disappointed when I actually see it - but, it does prove a point....the FBI did not do a very good job or investigating the past of Duane L. Weber - so how much more did they miss. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger the laugh is on you with the PILL TIME. Haven't you posted long enough to know that the titles roll over unless the author changes the title of the post......... Geeze you are really loosing it in your old age. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The FBI had 4 frigging yr to catch their mistake. Remember I contacted them in 1996 and the FBI agent talked to me in 2000. His superior had to go on tape with TV documentary crew to straighten this out - I have a video of the complete interview, but it was never shown that I am aware of. I didn't have anyone helping me until much much later. Until 2000 I had let the FBI do their thing. My catching the agent on this and calling him down on it was what set me off. The help I receive from other was helpful and not connected to the things we already knew. And definitely not to Duane's brother. YOU cannot seem to assimilate your own research. YOU do not read or LISTEN to anyone. The FBI did cover up Duane's background and I found key proof of this recently and I am awaiting the written copies. The FBI told me Duane had not been in WA and did NOT have a criminal past there - NOT true! NOW - say YOU are SORRY. I feel for the John Collins family you have just made public on a public forum. I suggest you take it down while you still can - you only have about 3 hours after your post to delete it. I have already told you I do not have the capabilities to post documents - what do you NOT understand about that. These documents were acquired with a great deal of work on my part and on the part of the individual who did the research. I do NOT use his research in this thread other than the content - the documentation is for the eyes of the FBI and that time is coming. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Wrong John Weber. John was 13 yrs OLDER than Duane and Duane was born in 1924. John did NOT die until after 2004, because that is when I met him in CA. I have not hidden anything about John, but his survivor could sue the HELL out of his being made public and she will do just that. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have been laying the background. Navy, Army and the back to CA where he was arrested and then ran away while awaiting trial in SanFrancisco. He was found in the East and immediately returned to the West...where he was sentenced to McNeil, but he never went into the McNeil population and was put in a program. It was in Feb after he was sent to WA they they were chasing the balloons - even though they were first seen the yr before. They needed to find them all and they had teams and planes going to the sitings. These balloon were found not only in Wa and Or and ID, but even further to the east and south - where the winds took them. Every siting had to be found and retrived. None of you have ever looked up Lyman VanBuren Weber - not once. Maybe he is just a figment of my imagination or maybe he dropped the Weber for Wentz (not sure of the spelling). Duane remained in the N.E. until 1948. Find out what he did during those yrs - if you guys are so smart. As for my health and the pain - I am just fine. When some of you reach the place I am - and there are unanswered questions about your deceased - then and only then will you understand why I want answers. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You nor Georger have me pegged. Obviously I am unable to determine what you guys are looking for or trying to do. The letter written from Camp Sibert is authentic and I am not lying about anything. The only thing I see is your determination of verbage and my trying to explain something I am holding to a group of men on a computer...who think they have some kind of insight NO one else has. Yes, my health is fragil and I hate it when you guys pick on me - seems like you always get me at my worse. Did you have 3 surgeries in 11 months? Are you looking at 2 surgeries in the next 6 month? I didn't think so! Are you in so much pain you are just trying to get thur Christmas? I didn't think so. Sorry I even mentioned my health, but when some of you are hammering me for answers it seems to be at a bad time. Robert99 you have dissed the Balloon Bombs ever since I mentioned them. I do know Duane had something to do with the finding and retrival of these - so put that in your pocket. Frankly I know more about these damn things than you do and what I know is factual. Where you aware they used PRIVATE planes in the beginning to keep from causing public concern? DID YOU? BE honest - hell NO you didn't know. Just how did JO WEBER learn about this? I asked you before and you evaded the question by bashing me. Do you know WHY they did this? If you saw multiple military planes flying all over - what kind of fear would you or your parents have felt...yes, it was war time, but small military planes making searches over the entire N.E.? HOW does Jo know this. What does this have the HELL to do about Cooper? The FBI in 1998 dismissed Duane based on finger prints, yet when I contacted them in 2000 the agent of record tells me Duane WAS never in the ARMY and the number belonged to Wavie Green. Just how do you expect me to assemblelate this non productive use of information. when I provided the correct serial number. It was OBVIOUS the FBI never checked Duane Weber out or they were told HANDS off!. The agent thought I was stupid enough to accept his flimsy excuse. WELL, Thank Heaven I didn't. The information on Weber should have been accurate. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Perhaps the 1st paragraph will clarify this. Dear Mother: Recieved your first letter today with the dollar in it. Thank you very much for the money. I sure did need it. I thought maybe if I came home I would get this straighten out and save you people a lot of money. This letter is written on Official Camp Sibert stationary. It is a copy and it is yellowed. The brother sent this to me. I expect the original was in his mother's journals. John has since died so finding the original will be useless ordeal. Obviously a picture of Duane in uniform was sent, but the family could not find the photo. The address is clearly stated in long hand on at the end of the letter. Duane L. Weber 35608905 Co D - 2ed CWS Tng Regt. Camp Sibert Ala. I never understood what the part about John meant about his being able to see Duane before he went over other than HOPEFUL speculation by Duane on Duane's part. The Duane I knew wanted and needed a family and I think my family became that for him. Certianly I did NOT read any malice into the letter and it seemed like he still at that time idolized his older brother. John was 13 yrs older than Duane. Perhaps that helps. His sister was 8 or 6 yrs older (I forget now). Duane was a change of life baby and the 2 brothers had similar appearances. Hopefully the line will allow this post to be made without my having to repeat again. I am VERY tired and I am in LOTS of pain - so please LET me have some PEACE for this Christmas. What Robert99 was stating (out of obstentation and lake of Knowledge) has brought tme to tears and I had to take medication to calm me down. I hate that his bastardly attitude. HE is encapable of making a mistake. Well, he made one on this. I have the historians work and it does NOT support his claims about Camp Siebert. A lot of information gets scrambled when yrs later individuals are creating historical documents - they usually are JUST writers creating a internet page and are not all that consumed in total accuracy - which if you read the Smoke Jumper history - the different writers changed things mulitple time since the first writings. Yet, there are so many Robert99's out there who swear this or that is acturate when other documents give conflicting information - all written by different historical writers. Only those compiled and checked by multiple writers could even be considered to be acurate. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Please Georger apologize for that part of your post. I am NOT off my "Rocker" and I have NO connections to Blevins. What I do is independent and unrelated to any other suspect or their story! I can only stay on line just long enough to make one short post and then sometimes I have to do it over and over. Just leave JO out of you cocky post to Blevins. PLEASE! Time is of the essence and I do not need to spend what time I have crying over the likes of derogatory posts about me or what I have to say. I am relaying what I know and trying to comply with the requests may by posters - I may not have another chance to be heard. Robert99 - yes I was alive and well in 1943. I am making the reports from verifiable documents and actual letters. Yet, you have the GALL to state the letter was a phoney - YOU ARE THE PHONEY! The letter from Camp Sibert has been certified as being official so please SHUT up. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Discharged from NAVY May 1942! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Was never able to get that book. Poor excuse for library here and I asked them to send it from another library. Requests like this are never done. I cannot afford to order the book and do not do anything over the internet. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

That is the name the FBI agent gave me. Wavie Green Duane was in the Navy June 18, 1941 until May 30, 1942. Some one is mixing Navy and Army. Can only stay on line about 1 minute and then loose connections. Hope this post! Cannot read all post. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The May date May 30 1942 is his release from the NAVY! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The FBI used the envelope for DNA. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber