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I have studied and debated this topic ad nausuem. In lieu of rehashing the same arguments I will state that marjiuana is more likely to be rescheduled and decriminalized than legalized. In the mean time ... "I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law." Martin Luther King Jr. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Pretty much a cast iron assumption from where I'm sitting. Besides, even if I'm wrong it is still not a valid reason to keep cannabis illegal. We will have to agree to disagree. I have only been able to collect enough information to make an assumption not an informed decision. I haven't stated any of the reasons are valid, I've just stated that they are reasons. Actually no I hadn't. But still, who do you think pays that cash? You do, through taxation. Besides, prison workers don't get to set their own budgets, they get what they're given. Are you saying that, right now, the nation's prisons are not overcrowded? This whole line of argument that you're pursuing here strikes me as utterly bizzare. The prison service benefits from having to house those convicted of pointless non-crimes when they're already overburdened with real criminals? I am not stating it is in the public intresest. I am stating that people who make laws, enforce laws, etc... make money from having more laws and having more people breaking laws. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Taxation would be a larger and more reliable revenue stream, and would cost less to collect. That is an assumption. ?? How much do you make out of someone sitting in prison for a year? And if people are so keen on building new jails why are the ones we have so overcrowded? I don't make anything. Prison guards, officials, and personal (not to mention contractors) make everything. Have you every heard the saying "slash for cash"? "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Revenue from seizures? Do the police sell on what they seize? No. The revenue is from the money and or property (boats, cars, houses, etc...) they seize. Have you checked in on the state of the prison system lately? Getting rid of people on dope charges is hardly going to leave wings standing empty now is it? Yes. You are forgetting that people on dope charges are revenue streams ... prisons don't want to remove revenue streams, they would rather expand or build new prisons. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

This is why the "legalize & tax" argument does not work ... I disagree - it works with people brewing their own beer and making their own wine...it seems logical to believe that it would work with MJ as well. The government will be able to enforce taxes on companies but will not be able to enfoce taxes on people and I do not believe the people that will produce their own will pay taxes. The question is, how many people will purchase from companies and how many people will produce their own? "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

No. Only the most effective collaboraters, improvisers, and most adaptable to change survive ... Given the past and the present it appears to be the reality in the world. Who knows about the future ... (History does tend to repeat itself.) "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Any thus remove a large revenue from law enforcement from seisures and budget. And thus prision guards and police would lose their jobs or budget. The political, religious, ... believe these people are ruining their own lives with drugs. I agree with the statement. However, it can't be proved, it can only be assumed. No. You are right but cultural, political, religious, ... agendas dictate what the populace may partake in regardless. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

If we are animals acting on instinct only with only our selfish interest in mind I would agree and maybe I should agree. I just hope we are more then that. In nature the weak get killed sometimes by there own mothers; should we take on the same principles? I do not believe a culture consisting of individuals acting on instinct with only their selfish interest in mind would be the culture to most effectively collaborate, improvise, and adapt to change ... "At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the world." Charles Darwin PS: You appear to be discussing morality while I am discussing reality. If only they were the same thing ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

This is why the "legalize & tax" argument does not work ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

I really hate to break it to you ... but the Native Americans (along with many other people) made other Native Americans (along with many other people) out to be savages and barbarians just so they could kill them easier. Edit: With population exponentially expanding and resources remaining finite it is only logical that colliding cultures that are unable to coexist will attempt to purge one another. The culture which most effectively collaborates, improvises, and is most adaptable to change survives ... "In the long history of humankind those who learned to collaborate and improvise most effectively have prevailed." Charles Darwin "It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change." Charles Darwin "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Self-gratification is defined as the act of pleasing oneself or of satisfying one's conscious impulse toward something that promises enjoyment or satisfaction in its attainment according to Merriam-Webster. Altruism is defined as unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others or behavior by an animal that is not beneficial to or may be harmful to itself but that benefits others of its species according to Merriam-Webster. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Poor diet and physical inactivity caused 400,000 deaths in 2000. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Tobacco and alcohol caused 520,000 deaths in 2000. Marijuana caused 0 deaths in 2000. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Anyone watch the show? It doesn't appear as though Matt is a very good coach. (Not to mention using his role as a coach to push his religion ... ) "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Here "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

The pressure to conform exists at the macro and micro levels ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

What about people doing group tracking jumps? (I ask because almost all of my jumps are either solo or group tracking jumps.) "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Very nice! I also just got a Javelin and have to agree, very comfortable. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

You can read the rest of the article here. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Hate crimes are a way to legislate your thoughts with your actions. It is a precursor to legislating your thoughts by themselves. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Ding, ding, ding! "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

I made some other options ... PS: If you get bored ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

I think the Kawasaki Ninja 250R looks great! "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

I knew everything would work because Jesus gave me the PCA! "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

Bump. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch