Lucky...

But lucky you gets to help pay for everyone elses now too Yes, I work and pay taxes, I will be paying and have some guarantee that I will also get HC. See how it works; we all pay - we all get. Unlike the other way; we all pay and some get.

You're a lwayer, so you're probably at minimum wage, so that's real tough. This law, the president and congress are about helping people and closing the priv gap; he's an awesome guy. BTW, I'm sure you can afford a good plan w/o help.

Just one? this is one of 18 separate threads on HC in the past week. It must be all the conservatives who were busy telling us that Obama couldn't get anything done.

Right, the kind that allows for people to buy across state lines and the sort of nothingness that helps no one.

I must have missed the line about the grotesque war and basic military spending being 8x that of #2. Oh well, maybe they're still working on that ditty.

Bongs just go on sale? So the mortgage mess that crippled the housing indusrty and virtually shut down the homebuilding industry hasn't been the cause? BTW, your competition will love you not being in their way, as they will forge fwd. Explain how so many European companie make it with payrol taxes that dwarf ours and their currency often kills ours? Quit whining, your party has instituted policies that have really fucked us hard, we're still here. Hell, Reagan, Bush, Bush own 2/3 of teh debt and the 2 runs inherited stable debt pictures, left a mess, so really, they own virtually all of the debt but you say that's not a biggy.

At least that one, while it didn't do what most think it did, didn't mortgage the future. And it would have probably had a majority in what was then the USA albeit not a huge one. It did keep Europe from extending the Civil War-which was a good thing. Ya didn't really answer the queston, just a comment on a different one. What would the popular vote have been about slavery's extermination? Right, most would have voted it down, but don't let me stop you from making up your own questions. As for mortgage the future, the Ira/AFG War has cost > 1T in 7 years, I don't hear the rambling rhetoric about mortgaging the furure. Hell, your heroes 8 years took a real good economy and ran it 5 fucking trillion bucks while running it into the ground, but I don't hear ya running on about that either. I guess when ya selectively choose your arguments and select the things that cost too much you can enjoy whatever fantasy you want.

Gov-run HC would require a sinlge payer or at the very least, a public option. This is just ins co reform, as in the req to accept pre-existing conditions. This is simply corporate reform. Jebus Christ I would love to.

Yes, there is - that's why I don't believe ANYTHING you say anymore, since you've lied so MANY times in other threads. From the guy who states: "I got it where you did" in response to reqs for data. The guy who rarely posts citations, just images and then refuses to post the source. I don't post cites in reply to you because you fucking WHINE so much about it - deal with it. Refusal to post cite to a whiner != lying. Thus endeth today's dictionary lesson. You don't post a citation as you are deceptive. You try to slide in nominal GDP for Real GDP. Any time any person flat out refuses to cite a sourcce, their credibility has been shot, regardless of party affiliation. I think that is pretty universal.

Not a real balancing act, gliders operate under the same premise. The US is basically a powered glider.

Yes, there is - that's why I don't believe ANYTHING you say anymore, since you've lied so MANY times in other threads. From the guy who states: "I got it where you did" in response to reqs for data. The guy who rarely posts citations, just images and then refuses to post the source.

Instead it now resembles an exclusive counrty club. Those in teh club don't get it.

We're starting to assimilate to the rest of the world, now we need to cut our military to 1/8th of what ot is and we will start to be normal. You think ebing 12T in debt, which has been mostly racked by the R's, is not fucked?

But none want to immigrate - don't blame ya. Yea, no shit. The gov isn't going to run HC, you must have listened to FOX News. We will still have HC-for-profit with a little gov intrusion. If it happened at work, we have that. If it happened in private, the way it is before this bill, they hospital would have to admit and do the intitial operation, even if it would be to amputate, then release. Then go after you and drive you into bankruptcy; litterally. That's the way it s/b; you're not penalized for being rich or for being poor. You would be burned at the cross here for that attitiude, I think that's a good system. We have it, had it for 40+ years, but it primarily covers those 65 and older. We're not, quit listening to FOX news. Single payer was never a plan, public option was passed by the house and killed by the senate. That's in the HC Bill. You have been gaining ground on our dollar for a while. I just bought a Cookie helmet, so I helped . Yea, it's a myth that Soc Med drives countries BK. SOme people will look at countries that go BK, see that they have soc med and blame it on that. The only reason we are not BK is due to our high GDP, we're basically a guy who earns $1 M per year, but has 20M debt; as long as we stay solvent there is no problem and we look rich, drive a nice car, etc. Ah yes, Murdoch, the same guy who sold part of his share of teh parent co to Fox News to that Muslim who, after 911, gave NY $10M, then said 911 was the fault of the US. Yea, that Murdoch and FOX are real American entities. But if ya want better garbage, look to the Heritage Foundation or Cato Institute, these internet rags actually get praise from the same garbage politicians that are crying about the HC Bill. Left wing Americans are like moderate to RW Ausies. In the US you are a lefty. You type/speak good English for a person who speaks/types Australian. Ps. Why is it so GD hard to immigrate there?

Don't really care because it doesn't affect me. You're a little latee, by the time you posted this it was passed hours ago. You must have dial up And the state attorney generals are already filing their lawsuits to have it thrown out on a constitutional basis. May you live in interesting times..... "It" being the req to buy insurance. I hope they succeed; the rest will stand. I don't know of any suits designed at overthrowing the entire bill, they are delluded if they try that.

Best to just start cramming things down their collective fucking throats as they did while they had control of the Senate and House under King George II Yea, they used reconcilliation to get the tax cuts thru, yet that was ok

and King George the 2nd really is beginning to look like a Conservative spender compared to Obama who is dwarfing all other previous presidents with his massive ever growing government bureaucracy. When your largest job growth demographics are in government, you know you are on the road to >. I see, the 2nd worst economy of US history doesn't require spending to bailout upon. Judge Obama afterward, not now, as we would expect of any admin/pres. Economic recovery is virtually unprecedented, if not unprecedented. I realize 2 weeks after turd George left his throne it was "Obama's economy."

They will charge more. Their operating expenses have gone up. What happens to cigarette prices when taxes increase? Do you think any of the tobacco CEOs lose a dime of compensation each time a new tobacco tax is implemented. I'm not comparing cigs to HC but it's an easy example. The price is always passed on to the consumer. Just like your jump ticket gets more expansive when crude goes up. Taxes are tacked on to all tabacco purchases, that's a ridiculous example. As for the jump ticket price, if a given DZ is able to operate at a lower price, the others can't complain their tickets cost more due to poor management, I'm sure the customers will understand. Besides, if premium costs go up for all when the non-insured get ins and have surgeries, then the medical industry will have to be price controlled. Eithe rway, this is gonna force the worms out of the system.

You should rig it so that every post reads that same number for eternity >:)

I know, HC ins should be a luxury.

Can't deny pre-exsisting and my lifetime 300k cap will be gone. The rest I'm not to happy w/. And who will pay for those "good parts"? Edited to add: C'mon..what'd we just get? Alot of folks here were damned sure they wanted it. Now what? You're not really sure are you... 'I'm from the gov't and I'm here to help.' Same people who have paid and are paying for the grossly overbuilt military that you so embrace.

Can't deny pre-exsisting and my lifetime 300k cap will be gone. The rest I'm not to happy w/. I'm basically there too. I think the states will sue and have the req to buy ins deemed unconst, which I would support and think the admin will too.

Just ignore this too, as I know you will, but what would the popular vote have been just pre-Emancipation Proclaimation? Right; get it? The gov doesn't alwasy go with majority rules, however about 1/2 wanted this and 1/2 did not, so there was no resoundingly clear majority rule, not that it matters.

Don't really care because it doesn't affect me. You're a little latee, by the time you posted this it was passed hours ago. You must have dial up

On one hand, no shit. OTOH, you mean the 19th century.