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John Wayne an icon, univ professors liberal idiots s the stereotype; this mentality propelled GWB to stardom. Funny thing is, much of this is pseudo bravado. GWB did all he could to saty out of VN, Wayne never enlisted and Reagan also got out ofg WWII war action by claiming poor eyesight. So all you have to do is be stupid and act tough, not actually be tough.

Doing nothing is what got us into this mess to begin with. Reagan style deregulation was an abysmal failure. Cool At least at this point you are on the record Thanks Me being "on the record" about Reagan's failed policies isn't exactly new. The long-term harm caused to the middle class by Reagan was almost criminal and the party of Do-nothing has been trying to keep it that way ever since. Fuck yea, 4 of the 5 Q's preceeding and including Obama's were negative GDP; the one directly before was almost 7% negative. http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm Amazing you don't bitch about the GDP under GWB, 4 of 5 - Q's, yet Obama's unprecedented growth turnaround is a problem???? So under GWB it rose 3.4% in his last year, under Obama it took the 9 months to level the vertical ine and now it's dropping and jobbs are being created and you have an issue with that???? The mortgage mess was the worst ever, compounded with total bank failures and you wonder why homes are not selling????? Obama didn't fix it in 2 weeks and now it's his fault???? Your best argument yet You're celebrating this demise, not us. You billvon and Quade love to say this You are a funny type I look forward to Nov 2010 and Nov 2012 Do you? Ive said that for some time, you can never refute it, just affirm it. I do look fwd to 2010, 2012 s/b a breeze for Obama. You will gain seats this time because it's almost an automatic that the new pres loses congressional seats. As well, despite what racist Repubs say, it wasn't teh black vote but the young vote that earned Obama the win on 08, so they may be absent in 2010 but reappear in 2012, so 2012 s/b a good time for all but you and yours.

Doing nothing is what got us into this mess to begin with. Reagan style deregulation was an abysmal failure. Cool At least at this point you are on the record Thanks Me being "on the record" about Reagan's failed policies isn't exactly new. The long-term harm caused to the middle class by Reagan was almost criminal and the party of Do-nothing has been trying to keep it that way ever since. Cool So you are OK with the current GDP current unemployment current existing housing sales current new housing sale ECT Glad you love the US so much Marc, what is truly sad is that you're incapable of the realization that every last one of those you listed above is a direct result of the policies that those you have been told to idolize perpetrated against the American people to enrich a very few who paid your idols to get you to believe. Sorry what is causing this is Dem control of the housing markets and the uncertainty of the what the gov will do to business in the future there are demons on both sides of the political spectrum and we all have to be on watch for them. On that point I think you and I can agree On another point Thanks for a response type that I have not seen before I see you as smart even though I do not agree with you on many points But you posted no vitriol or name calling I agree with you rarely But I respect your opinions when you post like this So you agree that GWB/Republican congressional policies caused this mess? You didn't disagree; acquiesced.

I can't extrapolate much intelligible from that; commas are overrated. But the law will sunset and the provides that preexistings will have to be honored by ins cos, that is the best thing to come out of the law. Woooooosh Hardly, it's juts that I don't read gibberish well. Try some commas and make it read a little more intelligibly.

I can't extrapolate much intelligible from that; commas are overrated. But the law will sunset and the provides that preexistings will have to be honored by ins cos, that is the best thing to come out of the law.

Doing nothing is what got us into this mess to begin with. Reagan style deregulation was an abysmal failure. Cool At least at this point you are on the record Thanks Me being "on the record" about Reagan's failed policies isn't exactly new. The long-term harm caused to the middle class by Reagan was almost criminal and the party of Do-nothing has been trying to keep it that way ever since. Fuck yea, 4 of the 5 Q's preceeding and including Obama's were negative GDP; the one directly before was almost 7% negative. http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm Amazing you don't bitch about the GDP under GWB, 4 of 5 - Q's, yet Obama's unprecedented growth turnaround is a problem???? So under GWB it rose 3.4% in his last year, under Obama it took the 9 months to level the vertical ine and now it's dropping and jobbs are being created and you have an issue with that???? The mortgage mess was the worst ever, compounded with total bank failures and you wonder why homes are not selling????? Obama didn't fix it in 2 weeks and now it's his fault???? Your best argument yet You're celebrating this demise, not us.

Oh, ok; allow me: UNEMPLOYMENT: http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000 Added 3.4% from Feb 08 to Feb 09; Obama stopped the bleeding in just 9 months then dropped it .6%. GDP: http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm Peaked at almost -7% your heroes last full Q in office; took Obama 2 Q's to go +. STOCK MARKET: http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJI+Interactive#symbol=%5EDJI;range=2y DJIA fell from 14k to 6500; waswell in transit as Obama took office; now it's >10K and holding, actually made it >11K until the European crisis. So tell me your take on the numbers.

Completely owning two of three branches the federal government and STILL blaming the 'other side' for getting nothing accomplished. The current administration is redefining "inept", "incompetence", and "impotence". Actually, this congress has accomplished more in the last two years than the Republican controlled congress did in the previous eight. They just did things YOU don't happen to like. Wait, they managed to pass via reconcilliation tax cuts that helped to add 5T to the debt; take that back. They killed children's HC; take that back. They killed stem cell funding ; take that back . They rewrote the 1938 FLSA laying teh framework for robbing overtime pay from millions; take that back See, they got plenty done.

ok you liberal goat fucker I know for sure I could not get away with that one. Jusst sayin No doubt, calling someone a neo-con is a political opinion, calling someone a liberal is a political opinion, calling someone a goat fucker is an overt PA. YOUR definition makes neo con a compliment (to me anyway). Seeing how the term as when you use it is coming from a commy socialist person Please. Compliment me yet again sir

If a neo-con isn't gay, he wants gay marriage outlawed. If a neo-con is gay, he wants gay marriage outlawed. Your propaganda claims a gay conservative quietly leads his life, truth is he goes from airport bathroom to airport bathroom looking for glory holes, while overtly denouncing homosexuality as satan's work. As for legislation: http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Larry_Craig_Civil_Rights.htm You're so easy to refute that it's getting boring. _________________________ If a conservative is a believer, he demands prayer in schools; where's the apathy there that your garbage vid claims??? ________________________ If a neo-con sees the video, he posts it on internet chat sites.

Not so well played Reading is FUN DA MEN TAL me and my fumble-finger typing! Chuck It's OK Chuck. It's only excusable if Jeanne likes you or you're agreeing with her. Otherwise you'd be labeled goatfuck stupid. I guess I find it funny that you think the current president is doing such a bang up job. He's lost and can't find his way out of this problem. The very problem he used to get elected will now be his undoing. I never said that I thought he was doing 'such a bang up job'. I was only referring to the fact he is educated and some folks seem to fear an educated person. Referencing the old adage; 'Knowledge is power.' Chuck Do you see what I'm talking about? You haven't sided with Obama at all, just noted his higher education and the mob is after you. You're welcome to your opinion, but not by the Republican mob thuggery; they're testing you to ask who's side you're on here.

______________________________________ You think thats bad , America has a community organizer trying to lead the country. I would take either one of those two over our currant president. Of course you would, an education is SOOOO overrated in the selection of a leader with the ability to run a country. . . . I think, education and knowledge scares a lot of folks. Especially, in a leader. Chuck W/o a doubt, you're right. People want to follow a mob leader; they feel safer. ...as in 'safety in numbers'? Chuck Well, not always, as the R's have fewer numbers, yet they are still attracted to this mob rule where everyone falls in lock-stepped behind a prearranged protocol from which they don't dare deviate.

______________________________________ You think thats bad , America has a community organizer trying to lead the country. I would take either one of those two over our currant president. Of course you would, an education is SOOOO overrated in the selection of a leader with the ability to run a country. . . . Judging by the current situation of O's making I'd have to agree with you. Would that be the situation brought about by the ignorant fuckers trying to block EVERYTHING that O is trying to do to make it better after the same ignorant fuckers kept getting fooled over and over into electing those who ran the debt to 11 Trillion dollars and set the stage for it to go another 7 Trillion higher by the policies they put in place??? Not that any of those same ignorant fuckers that got us to this mess will ever have enough intelligence to realize how fucking ignorant they were the whole time they were being played!!!! Yeah.. that is what I thought Right, for example children's HC; the same one GWB vetoed that Obama and teh D's passed 2 weeks into his term.

______________________________________ You think thats bad , America has a community organizer trying to lead the country. I would take either one of those two over our currant president. Of course you would, an education is SOOOO overrated in the selection of a leader with the ability to run a country. . . . I think, education and knowledge scares a lot of folks. Especially, in a leader. Chuck W/o a doubt, you're right. People want to follow a mob leader; they feel safer.

______________________________________ You think thats bad , America has a community organizer trying to lead the country. I would take either one of those two over our currant president. Of course you would, an education is SOOOO overrated in the selection of a leader with the ability to run a country. . . . Judging by the current situation of O's making I'd have to agree with you. What's that? Define the situation, don't forget to start in 07 and describe the total situation chronologically.

______________________________________ You think thats bad , America has a community organizer trying to lead the country. I would take either one of those two over our currant president. Oh, he was also a US senator, head of the Harvard Law Review and a 10-year Constiutional Law Professor; I guess that Constitution stuff is just for convenience from neo-cons, right? Apparently you think having a VP a heartbeat away from Pres is a good idea, esp when that VP took 6 or 8 years to finish a Bach degree in Journalism, yet can't name 1 piecce of caselaw or any media publications. The dumber the better, ey?

ok you liberal goat fucker I know for sure I could not get away with that one. Jusst sayin No doubt, calling someone a neo-con is a political opinion, calling someone a liberal is a political opinion, calling someone a goat fucker is an overt PA. YOUR definition makes neo con a compliment (to me anyway). Seeing how the term as when you use it is coming from a commy socialist person Please. Compliment me yet again sir

I like how telling someone they need to post like an adult is a PA, yet repeated calling people repubiclowns, even emphasizing the words in the bastardization of the term, is not a PA because it's simply political in nature. one mod I exchanged PMs with said he tried to determine if the post was made with malice when he considered if something was a PA or not. I've seen much malice on this board. And oddly enough, most of it is centered around dancing around these PA rules. Then calling me a goat fucking liberal s/b a PA according to you then, right?

ok you liberal goat fucker I know for sure I could not get away with that one. Jusst sayin No doubt, calling someone a neo-con is a political opinion, calling someone a liberal is a political opinion, calling someone a goat fucker is an overt PA.

You mean 'Socks' Berger? NAw, RW maggotted Steinbrenner of course. You just don't have the mental fortitude to make a comment without using hate speech, do you. Never mind - it was rhetorical. And you added what to this thread???? Usual zippo. And still more than you - everytime. For starters I educated your neo-con cohort about the political impeachment process, what have you added? Oh yea, zippo..... It's your fairy tale - tell it like you want it... And still more than you - everytime. and It's your fairy tale - tell it like you want it... After a while all the neo-cons rescuing each other all blend togetehr. Don't you find it funny how Belgian thinks or at least thought that an impeachment from the House of Reps was a conviction?

You mean 'Socks' Berger? NAw, RW maggotted Steinbrenner of course. You just don't have the mental fortitude to make a comment without using hate speech, do you. Never mind - it was rhetorical. And you added what to this thread???? Usual zippo. And still more than you - everytime. For starters I educated your neo-con cohort about the political impeachment process, what have you added? Oh yea, zippo.....

You mean 'Socks' Berger? NAw, RW maggotted Steinbrenner of course. You just don't have the mental fortitude to make a comment without using hate speech, do you. Never mind - it was rhetorical. And you added what to this thread???? Usual zippo.

Hahahahaaha, the preudo acft sheetmetal mech can't answer. To break from our forum neo-con, I will answer: Yes they are and under Clinton they did pursue the perjury (the sexual harrassment was never pursued, something Belgian will figure out as soon as he graduated high school) and came up empty as far as a conviction went. To give to the, "Give Belgian a political education" fund, I will help you with all 4 charges brought before the House: Upon the passage of H. Res. 611, Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998, by the House of Representatives on grounds of perjury to a grand jury (by a 228-206 vote)[14] and obstruction of justice (by a 221-212 vote)[15]. Two other articles of impeachment failed — a second count of perjury in the Jones case (by a 205-229 vote)[16] and one accusing Clinton of abuse of power (by a 148-285 vote)[17]. Four Republicans opposed all four articles, while five Democrats voted for three of them and 1 Democrat for all four. Upon passage of H. Res. 611, Clinton became the first elected U.S. president and the second U.S. president to be impeached, following Andrew Johnson in 1868. (In 1974, Richard Nixon resigned the Presidency before the House impeachment vote.) 2 passed, meaning they were political indictments, there was no sexual harrassment pursued nor indicted. Now, we'll all see you look sillier and for the 4th or 5th time dodge my question: WERE YOU FLAT WRONG, WITHOUT EXCUSES, WHEN YOU WROTE THAT AN IMPEACHMENT IS A CONVICTION? Yea, go swell and draw those cherry rivets . My leads would have you out the gate seconds after hearing anyone saying that. I've worked acft for decades and you think you have a clue as compared to me? What a total joke. You're like a 100-jump wonder trying to teach the 2k, 3k+ jumpers how to skydive; we all see that. You wrote: Answer the question: Do you feel perjury and sexual harrassment are not worth prosecuting? Well then why did you ask if they were worth prosecuting? With you lack of understanding of a simple political process taught in high school such as impeachment, yo were dead wrong thinking the House convicted and the senate then punnished based upon that finding of guilt, so it appears logical that you did think 1 of teh 4 charges was harrassment. So still running? Here it is again for you to continue to run from: He WAS found guilty (it is called IMPEACHMENT) by the House of Representatives but was not punished by the Senate. My question again: WERE YOU FLAT WRONG, WITHOUT EXCUSES, WHEN YOU WROTE THAT AN IMPEACHMENT IS A CONVICTION? Everyone watch Belgian run like hell.

You mean 'Socks' Berger? NAw, RW maggotted Steinbrenner of course.

yeah... stop calling me a neo-con. I'm not. I've told you before. you won't get called on it being a personal attack because it's not like saying you're a liberal sheep fucker. It's more political in nature and thus one of the allowed personal attacks that are frequently ignored by your like-minded moderators. that is all. Neo-cons: - Love tax cuts - Hate social spending - Love military war spending In what way are you not in agreement with these 3? As for PA, I think SC is more loosely moderated than let's say the Bonfire, esp when it comes to political labels. Don't like it, don't come here I think is the standard. As for Neo-con being a PA at all, I don't see it that way, at least not more vile than just saying, "conservative" or "Republican." So as you were, neo-con