Lucky...

OK, Bill, I get it, you deleted it. Your secret's safe with me; we'll act as tho it didn't happen.

Yeah, it took you HOW many posts to get your source up? Quit whining and wipe the snot off your upper lip. Just for you, Lucky I didn't ask how to google it, I want to read teh right wing, maggotted trash rag you drew yours from so I can impeach the data. Now, we all expect you to continue to dodge it, I'm not gonna sort thru 1,000's of Googled pages, you show me your rag source or just be dishonest Mikeee, as we know you.

Boisi, Geoffrey New York NY Roundtable Investment Partners Well...that's quite the interesting spelling of Freddie Mac you have there, Lucky. - McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. So an individual being one of the directors of Freddie Mac is far and different from Freddie Mac? I know, it sucks that youyr point is now a shit sandwich you must eat. Sucks that you don't have a point to begin with. 20k over a dozen years...yeah, that really blows away the 150k-plus that Obama got just in 08 from Freddie/Fannie, or the 50k that Dodd pulled in. Financial companies at the center of the U.S. credit crisis including American International Group Inc., Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Freddie Mac helped pay for the Democratic National Convention in Denver, documents show. The Laborers International Union of North America gave $1.5 million to the Denver host committee. Four other unions, American Federation of Teachers, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, National Education Association and Service Employees International Union, gave at least $1 million each. For the Republican convention, Freddie Mac and AIG each gave $250,000, Goldman Sachs gave $255,000, and Morgan Stanley donated $100,000. JPMorgan Chase, which bought Bear Stearns Cos., contributed $100,000. Institution to DNC to RNC * Lehman Brothers $100,000

I'm pretty sure that neither of those guys is illiterate. Again, a GWB fan? The question is, is our children learning? Nope....... not a "fan". Not in the same sense that you're a BHO "fan". I see, just an emulation of GWB; my bad.

I'm pretty sure that neither of those guys is illiterate. Again, a GWB fan? The question is, is our children learning?

Boisi, Geoffrey New York NY Roundtable Investment Partners Well...that's quite the interesting spelling of Freddie Mac you have there, Lucky. - McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. So an individual being one of the directors of Freddie Mac is far and different from Freddie Mac? I know, it sucks that youyr point is now a shit sandwich you must eat. And what about John McCain receiving $21,550 from these GSEs during this time, mostly individual money? Oh no comment? What about the biggie: Freddie Mac also contributed $250,000 to the 2008 Republican National Convention? Oh, no comment? I see your point gets worse and worse as we go and you cherry pick. I would just run as you do well if I were you.

Uh... it was McCarthy who was after the commies... but he wanted to get the pinko homo's too. And DUDE... you so missed a few Japanese Internment Lynchings Then again.... seems that whole Salem thing was also the rage in England about the same time, and at a VASTLY larger scale. Well, MacArthur wanted to go get some commies, too. Yeah.. I am thinking that might have relieved some population pressures in China and the USSR and in America. Personally I am kinda glad we did not have to fight THAT particular war the way he wanted to. Different time, different balance of power.... who knows? But I do think MacArthur did misunderestimate China's committment to the defense of N Korea. But that's a different topic. Bush fan are we? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHy6IZcleic In all actuousness, I am a humongulous fan of the lexicologizings of Don King. GWB ain't got nuthin' on him .......I'm guessticulating that since King is a nonapoligetizaceous fan of Bush he must have taught W some good wordations to be used in his various unsunderizing speechations. GWB's illiteracy is not derived from ebonics.

Prove it wrong. Done. True Cost of Stimulus: $3.27 Trillion Nice, Heritage; coulda taken it from Limbaugh's mouth. Hypothetically, even if it does cost X amount, the war was unnecessary, the stimulus was completely necessary unless you think like Hoover and it will fix itself. Before or after killing 12 million? So no address to the Heritage Foundation and you using it as a repiable opinion source? To cite data that is correct, ok, but to rely on and expect us to follow partisan logic is lame. I see you are unable to remark on that. Info came from that partisan source site, CBO. You posted a neo-con site; The Heritage Foundation that actually rejected your opinion. Then I posted addtional evidence in the form of the need for the stimulus that made the point more clear. You don't want to address it.

So no address to the Heritage Foundation and you using it as a repiable opinion source? To cite data that is correct, ok, but to rely on and expect us to follow partisan logic is lame. I see you are unable to remark on that. So the 12M people haven't died yet due to the Bush recession? Will it happen by the time of the 2012 election? Who predicted 12M people dying with the Bush Recession? It appears you're owned in that you cannot address the substance.

Uh... it was McCarthy who was after the commies... but he wanted to get the pinko homo's too. And DUDE... you so missed a few Japanese Internment Lynchings Then again.... seems that whole Salem thing was also the rage in England about the same time, and at a VASTLY larger scale. Well, MacArthur wanted to go get some commies, too. Yeah.. I am thinking that might have relieved some population pressures in China and the USSR and in America. Personally I am kinda glad we did not have to fight THAT particular war the way he wanted to. Different time, different balance of power.... who knows? But I do think MacArthur did misunderestimate China's committment to the defense of N Korea. But that's a different topic. Bush fan are we? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHy6IZcleic

Prove it wrong. Done. True Cost of Stimulus: $3.27 Trillion Nice, Heritage; coulda taken it from Limbaugh's mouth. Hypothetically, even if it does cost X amount, the war was unnecessary, the stimulus was completely necessary unless you think like Hoover and it will fix itself. Before or after killing 12 million? So no address to the Heritage Foundation and you using it as a repiable opinion source? To cite data that is correct, ok, but to rely on and expect us to follow partisan logic is lame. I see you are unable to remark on that.

That's because you're unable to stay on subject, which is the question about which one cost more. Not was it necessary. You want to claim there is needless spending on the stimulus, I am talking about what precipitated the (as you call it) needless spending; you try to keep up. The mess we're in is due to: - Needless war spending - Tax cuts - A housing/mortgage mess that went unstopped. Therefore the stimulus was made to be necessary

Indeed. Freddie Mac 2008: Top Recipients Senate Obama, Barack $41,900 Senate Dodd, Chris $25,500 Senate Clinton, Hillary $19,100 House Bachus, Spencer $11,500 House Bean, Melissa $11,249 Senate McCain, John $10,250 Fannie Mae 2008: Top Recipients Senate Obama, Barack $115,313 Senate Clinton, Hillary $27,278 Senate Dodd, Chris $24,350 House Lynch, Stephen F $15,500 Senate Cornyn, John $12,000 Senate Coleman, Norm $11,000 House Clyburn, James E $10,500 Senate McCain, John $10,305 Yes, you are. Oh Mikeepoo, you're so cute when you cherrypick my posts. Did you forget: - McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. - John McCain received $21,550 from these GSEs during this time, mostly individual money. - Freddie Mac also contributed $250,000 to the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota according to FEC filings [37]. The organizers of the Democratic National Convention have not yet submitted their filings on how much they received from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae Come on now. you have egg all over your face, even your own neo-coners see that; quit looking beat.

I'm fascinated that anyone would think the war was necessary while the stimulus, created in part by needless war spending, was not needed. Are we so uneducated that we cannot learn from your darling Hoover and his, "it'll fix itself?" Is anyone dumb enough to think that tax cuts will do anything but increase teh spiral? No, but they can't show me where tax cuts have fixed anything. All they can show me is where tax increases have fixed things but..... they will be different thsi time, right??? Riiiight. WHat's that about insanity and expecting different results? And look at the perpetrators of these tax cits, my friends: OLD SENILE GARBAGE LIKE REAGAN AND MCSAME. Whouda thunk it, a bunch of senile turds doing insane things.

Your ability to read-laughable. Discount the source-attack the poster, with a mild PA tossed in. Cool Oh well, get over it, the mods did nothing when your neo-con brother called me goat fuck stupid. I realize you expecct coddling, but just get over it.

Prove it wrong. Done. True Cost of Stimulus: $3.27 Trillion Nice, Heritage; coulda taken it from Limbaugh's mouth. Hypothetically, even if it does cost X amount, the war was unnecessary, the stimulus was completely necessary unless you think like Hoover and it will fix itself.

http://thinkingamerican.blogtownhall.com/2008/09/17/who_deregulated_housing_what_politicians_received_money_from_freddie_and_fannie.thtml Oops up side ur head: The top 10 recipients of campaign contributions from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae during the 1989 to 2008 time period include 5 Republicans and 5 Democrats. Top recipients of PAC money from these organizations include: - Roy Blunt (R-MO) $78,500 (total including individuals' contributions $96,950), - Robert Bennett (R-UT) $71,499 (total $107,999), - Spencer Bachus (R-AL) $70,500 (total $103,300), and - Kit Bond (R-MO) $95,400 (total $64,000). The following Democrats received mostly individual contributions from employees, rather than PAC money: - Christopher Dodd, (D-CT) $116,900 (but also $48,000 from the PACs), - John Kerry, (D-MA) $109,000 ($2,000 from PACs), - Barack Obama, (D-IL) $120,349 (only $6,000 from the PACs), - Hillary Clinton, (D-NY) $68,050 (only $8,000 from PACs). [35]. - John McCain received $21,550 from these GSEs during this time, mostly individual money.[36] - Freddie Mac also contributed $250,000 to the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota according to FEC filings [37]. The organizers of the Democratic National Convention have not yet submitted their filings on how much they received from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae[/url] So the biggest recipient so far is the RNC. It's not even fun feeding back to your your shit sandwiches, make it more difficult. Oh, and from your page: McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. Where does that put McSame then, damn near tops. You're so easy.

Altho there is some truth to that, w/o low int rates there would just be a bunch of foreclosures that would sell for 80-90% of what was owed on them. Low rates made the false appreciation possible. Why were the rates lowered? Tax cits, my friends. Lower tax rates, the rich pull profits with little penalty and then the whole thing stagnates, int rates are typically lowered then to motivate spending; the rich didn't buy it so the rates just kept getting lower and lower. History has proven that higher rates can slow spending, it hasn't proven that lower rates can always spur the economy.

You mean the EXPANSION of SCHIP to families that didn't need it, and not the implied lie that there was no children's healthcare that your post read as, right? Right, all poor peopel don't need it, it's just a big fraud and they are all doing well. Yet another Lucky lie. Yea, the poor rich and having to lose score so the poor can have their kids get HC. Yea, and some get pissed when I refer to conservatives/Livertarians as sociopaths.

next time I'll try to dumb it down enough for the society leeching left-wingers to understand too. Happy? Can't hang and chat-need to schedule a Dr.'s appointment while I still have fantastic insurance. Without data or any evidence, just unfounded opinion, it can't get much more dumb.

You mean the EXPANSION of SCHIP to families that didn't need it, and not the implied lie that there was no children's healthcare that your post read as, right? Right, all poor peopel don't need it, it's just a big fraud and they are all doing well.

went here to lead you here A different branch entirely. Sing along and when you catch up with the rest of the 4th grade social studies class, come back. And THEN we can discuss if "accomplished" is even close to an appropriate word What I love about you neo-cons is that there is no data and all theatrics. I guess you entertain each other.

Nice to see the right keeps saying that Obama hasn't fixed it in 2 weeks so he owns it. Just keep ignoring the data and everything looks rosey for GWB. Even Clinton took 4-5 years to turn the corner and he had GHWB start the recovery; Obama took this mess still slamming down, so he had to stop the bleeding before he can turn the corner. Clinton's inherited mess was never even close to as deep as this one, hell, fascist Ronnie's mess was deeper than this, both the mess he inherited and the mess he made. If you expect more than is now realized you'll be dissapointed, this is the 2nd worst economic mess in US history; quit acting as tho it was just a slowdown.

So changing labor dept rules, bringing HC to more, ending the massive slide in GDP and unemployment, collecting debt from the banks that GWB lent money to by making them follow rules such as no huge bonuses, etc, etc, etc. Versus your guy: Chopping stem cell funding, doing nothing for a week with Katrina, taking a stable dept picture, good economy and huge surplus and turning it into 5 trillion dollars in hole and massively increasing deficit/debt, dead housing market, etc, etc, etc Yea, can hardly tell the difference

But you juts be so good at riting it More adding nothing as usual from you. Glad to see the neo-con bump tho, old habits die hard.