Lucky...

So the Republicans pick up seats, and the Dems loose seats, yet the Republican party is in trouble? It is VERY clear you have no idea about the history of elections. Non Prez election year elections often flip the party in power.... Mainly because the party out of power does a better job of getting people to the polls. But, you continue to show you have no idea how politics work and ignore history when it does not suit you. In other words; Your theory is crap. The losses in the NE are somewhat weird, but so is the Dem win in NC. NET RESULT: This remote election is meaningless and indicates nothing.

This remains your hope. History suggests otherwise. Hillary Clinton spends most of 1993 trying to reform HC and what did that get her? Everlast hatred by half the population, and certainly contributed to the GOP victory in 1994. If reforming HC was easy, it would have been done already. It's hard to do at all, and even harder to do in a way that will make people happy. Failing badly will drive voters the other way...to the waiting GOP. Succeed, and it could be 5 terms of FDR+Truman again. But odds seem against that level of success. Of course that hatred in 93 translated to a win in 96. Also, if HC is successful, people gt to liking it, that could be the deal-maker; we'll see.

Your linked story says nothing about that - maybe you should re-read it. There *is* this, however: And the races certainly won't predict what will happen in the 2010 midterm elections. Agreed.

[Reply] Good lucky, righties - you'll need it. Why the hell are you so damned terrified? Isn't it odd that you point to thinning ranks in a political party while mentioning that the same party may pick up wins against the opposition party? The GOP losing members is not a problem for Dems unless Dems are losing them more quickly. If the GOP gains seats, any argument you can try about how they're losing power is objectively falsifiable. I'm not worried, just pointing out, once again, the right is failing The right is gaining seats... so they're failing... Only you could tie those two things together. And only you could think winning *some* of the Governor seats is a win. Esp since you couldn't even hold Charlotte.

Talking about the fundies criticizing the fiscal righties?

True, but I think we'll see a permantent shift here. And we are in a period of emergency with the debt and HC mess, so revolutionary times are here. After people get HC and are happy, could you see the next Repub on campaign? Every time the HC issue comes close, peopel, even Reoubs will be thinking.....you wanna take away my HC, don't you? A lot of now angry Repubs will become quit, closet Dems for fear of losing hC. Not to mention the young and minorities that will benefit and have been awakened in 08. Curtains, probably not, but it could be in time. Have you forgotten 1994 when the Dems lost control of both the House and Senate? The media had all but written the Dems obituary. True, but the pres was Dem and popular, so that offset it. He won by a massive margin in 96, even won AZ, which is a rarity here.

True, but I think we'll see a permantent shift here. And we are in a period of emergency with the debt and HC mess, so revolutionary times are here. After people get HC and are happy, could you see the next Repub on campaign? Every time the HC issue comes close, peopel, even Reoubs will be thinking.....you wanna take away my HC, don't you? A lot of now angry Repubs will become quit, closet Dems for fear of losing hC. Not to mention the young and minorities that will benefit and have been awakened in 08. Curtains, probably not, but it could be in time.

Running back and forth along side a giant pendulum, cheering it and waving pom-poms while it swings one way, booing and throwing rotten fruit at it while it swings the other way... a bit of a waste of energy. I hear ya, but parties can go away; conservatism will stay tho in a different form. The Whig Party departed, butthey had a viable alternative that has become the essence of the WHig.

Whatcha smokin? Thx for being so huge in this thread; you own it baby. You are very welcome little man Whatcha smokin? Ever look around and see others on your side make substantive points, yet you just cheerlead?

[Reply] Good lucky, righties - you'll need it. Why the hell are you so damned terrified? Isn't it odd that you point to thinning ranks in a political party while mentioning that the same party may pick up wins against the opposition party? The GOP losing members is not a problem for Dems unless Dems are losing them more quickly. If the GOP gains seats, any argument you can try about how they're losing power is objectively falsifiable. I'm not worried, just pointing out, once again, the right is failing

The second coming of Plato and Socrates combined.

Yea, same as acft You're a regular Rosey the Riveter Love how you comprehensively state all you know. You saw it in a chart on teh way to your BSME, so you're an expert I work with it using my hands, I understand the properties of each, max bend radiuses per gauge, etc. I don't live in a chart world. Oh, you just googled some Space Shuttle materials, ok. I see, done with the questions, but for yours. Dude, you can't even guess anymore and I haven't even but scraped the surface of my knowledge. You knew zero about "O" material. You use a little right rudder to compensate for P Factor, is that so brilliant and deep? If you have counter-rotating, as I brought in, you won't need it. If the motor mount is canted you might not need any or much. Also, there can be a tendancy for the acft to roll to the left in response to the torque, so you might have to input a little right aileron, but you never notice it as you do the rudder, IMO. If you reversed the direction of rotation of the engine and put an opposite-directioned screw on there, you would have to input left rudder and left ailoron, theoretically. There's your answer in deeper fashion. In a PP sense, P factor is sufficient. If you say P Fatcor at any airport, it's like ground effect or any other general term; people get it - not you tho, you want to make a thesis out of it to try t make people think you're brilliant. No, Bill politely said, WTF? Well, to be fair, the #1 priority is to fly the airplane. But as long as you can do that, then doing other things to enhance survivability (verify fuel selector in correct position, verify fuel pump on in low wings, opening doors if bad landing imminent etc) is a good thing as well. So what he said thru inferrence was to prioritize, he said nothing to agree that short final means anything; quit speking for others. What I draw from his passage is to prioritize and do all you reasonably can based upon the time/alt you have. I posted teh cite that defines short final as teh last minute or so of flight before touchdown; of course you didn't address that. So you want to be nats ass specific with your P Factor thesis and your 20 degree times, coordinated banked turn which is a commerical maneuver, but loose and genral with short final which is really easily a mile out, yet you call it 200-300 feet as I recall. Yea, I won't want to fly in your airspace. Are you gonna call someone to tell them you're on short final as you're 200 ft from touchdown? You're just ridiculous. Well then I would call King, Sperry and any other publication you can think of and write for them The flying world as according to Belgian You're talking after short final after you cross the fence. Let's see, in your dissertation would you call that a short-short final, or is that more of a short-short-short final? Belgian likes to be wide ipen general sometimes and then nat's ass pinpointed specific to win his arguments; surprised you haven't resorted to spelling errors yet. I don't like or dislike it, you gave a situation using language that would lead any reasonable person to believe that you're a minute out, hence a mile or so, so I am going to check for fuel, whetehr I will make the runway, if not where will I go, etc. You just have a different dictionary than I do. BTW, mine is like everyone elses. That's right, just like stalls are taught that they are most susceptable when you are flying slow and have high angles of attack, but they are POSSIBLE AT ANY AIRSPEED OR ANGLE OF ATTACK, INCLUDING STRAIGHT AND LEVEL AT CRUISE, just not real likely. They teach that and tehy teach icing can happen at any temp or humidity, but ICE IS MOST SUSCEPTABLE BETWEEN 20 AND 70 F WITH 50%+ REL HUMIDITY. See how that works? If your teachings were so general that you said hey, anything can happen at any time, I would call that a Fandango approach. Sure, anything can happen, you might see that spaceship over NM, but teachings illustrate what is likely, what is most predominate to find, but be prepared at all times. The cops could set you up for some odd reason, sure, but don't walk around thinking it will happen, it likely won't. Same logic, so again, icing is most susceptable between 20 and 70 F as I said, so I was right. How bout if we call it 3/4 to 1 mile out and you quit exageratiing to cover your fuck up? I've answewr all your questions in this game that YOU STARTED, are you gonna answer or run?

Do you work with Homer Simpson? how do you know!? Doh! I'm sure you hear that a lot

Do you PA much?

You wrote: BTW, I have substantial hearing loss in my right ear from bucking rivets for many years, often with no ear protection for "just these two". So is it a hobby? You don't get hearing damage from 1 or 2 times. Dude, your facade has fallen apart a long time ago. Many years of bucking rivets? What type acft? I'm familiar with the ones that are used from Cessna's to the 747, scarebus, etc. I don't live in a virtual world where everything I know comes off teh net, I perform these fabrications, repairs, etc. So were you with Rockwell on the SHuttle? I worked teh B-1 and a lot of guys were there from the shuttle. Quit hiding behind the fence and state your experience. Again, you have to be obscure with your internet research. I answered: P-factor. I think Mooneys and some other acft have the engine mounts fabbed so the engine actually has a couple degrees of turn. High end twin acft like Beech have counter-rotatating, the unusual rotation is real expensive and rare to find parts for. I'm an AP/IA/PP. This is rudamentary. Then that wasn't comprehensive enough for you: P Factor is a paraphrasation of the total effect. You have torque effect trying to roll the acft left, P FActor trying to yaw the acft left. I'm sure we can break it down to a science from there, but that is the essence of it. And of course it is most noticeable at low speeds with full throttle. There was your answer on post #56 - you must not read the entire post. You're done, I answerd every question and you're done with mine cause you're stuck; think no one sees that? I need an emoticon for crying, so here's the closest . You won't answer any questions because I stuck you. Look, 20 years of acft sheetmetal is fairly specialized, but you stuck it out there and lost. Here's anothr that came to me, you can google, "quackenbush" so what is the primary feature of that drill and where would it be used? You might be able to google the answer,but it might take a little insight. Right, run back and get off this line of questioning YOU STARTED that has bit you in the ass. Oh and your lame swell and draw with blind fasteners, you say the the shank draws up and the shaft swells, altho true, never is it refered to as that in the industry. Even if it were, it would be a draw and swell, wouldn't it? Once again, your scared, weak, lame attempts to scramble around and find an answer are ridiculous. you don't go into another man's world knowing nothing and try to run the wheel. And your icing; if you have a 100% rel humid and a 20 degree dew point light, irrelevant icing *might* be present at 0F. OK, welcome to the real world, pilots are often overloaded, so they look for generalizations and not some specific, obscure, remote improbability in regard to flying, they look for major probabilities. Icing is most prevalent from 20-70F when the humidity is > 50%; that is the rule of thumb. Now is it possible you *might* encounter an alien spaceship while flying over Roswell and at the same time ice up in 10% rel humid at 80 degrees? Suuuuuuuuuure, why not, just not likely so you turn your attention to things that are likely. Just keep doing your lazy, coordinated 20 degree turns tho, just don't do em in the pattern or someone's gonna fly up your ass. Hell, Bill politely shut you down on your short final BS. Try that on a checkride or a BFR telling the DFE or the CFI that you won't check fuel on engine failure. Unless I was basically at rotation to land, I would always give at least a quick check for fuel selector position. You just look silly.

I know, you're a GWB oil lover, but it is really the devil. Of course elect emits polution, just that it's less caustic as compared to oil The real solution is toreduce the number of people, but politicians can't run under that agenda, even tho some probably want to.

So you have nothing to say, yet feel compelled to reply?

http://www.faa.gov/.../newyork/ENROUTE.htm Since you are nevr able to construct a complete argument, I will once again for you. From your source: Carburetor Ice - Three categories of carburetor ice are: •Impact ice formed by impact of moist air at temperatures between 15-32°F on airscoops, throttle plates, heat valves, etc. Usually forms when visible moisture such as rain, snow, sleet, or clouds are present. Most rapid accumulation can be anticipated at 25°F. •Fuel ice forms at and downstream from the point that fuel is introduced when the moisture content of the air freezes as a result of the cooling caused by vaporization. It generally occurs between 40-80°F, but may occur at even higher temperatures. It can occur whenever the relative humidity is more than 50%. •Throttle ice is formed at or near a partly closed throttle valve. The water vapor in the induction air condenses and freezes due to the venturi effect cooling as the air passes the throttle valve. Since the temperature drop is usually around 5°F, the best temperatures for forming throttle ice would be 32-37°F although a combination of fuel and throttle ice could occur at higher ambient temperatures. And I said 20 to 70-80ish, right inline with what your source states; yea, ya really got me there. Dude, you're posting data to support me. Are you OK? MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE CHART ASSUMES 100% RELATIVE HUMIDITY, so that chart is for flying thru a rain storm, very abstract. Neo-cons can't make a point w/o being abstract. So you're trying to find an out with light icing, which isn't considered dangerous and even the FAA states: Caution - light icing over a prolonged period may become serious. So they don't consider it immediately important. Again, carb icing is most susceptable between 20 and 70 degrees F, you asked about 20 degrees, I gave that, you had some weak 20 degree turn that was not really a fixed degree turn anyway, now you're running and trying to be obscure with: "There ye go. You said icing. You never said anything about the severity of icing." Using obscure and abstract argumentation is desperation; icing is most susceptable from 20-70F. Light icing in and of itself means nothing, the FAA says as much. Lose your train of thought? Did the cherry fall off and burn you? What happened? And you've never told me what kind of acft, not once. I just find your BS unbelievable. Post places worrked and acft type. I never wear hearing prot and I can hear fine. POST ACFT TYPE AND PLACE WORKED. Yea, that's why you buy skins that Boeing has already hydroformed. Who said they weren't? Post a quote. 6061 is considered the best aluminum alloy for welding. It's pretty much a standard, but if you were in the trade, you would know that. I'm talking with acft parts, airframe to be more specific, and it is used constantly and today. Which parts? What part and why? - What aspect do airframes use to stop acft skins from tearing if they start. Google might help you there. - What unique feature do Hi-Loks have over other fasteners? - Also, what types of blind fasteners are out there; I gave you the Olympic fastener, as I told you of the heads I just sold. I gave you Cherrymax. List more. List major diffs. - What is the difference between Nas1097AD_-_ and MS20426AD_-_? - You didn't even touch this: We use 2024 T-3, 7075 T-6 for 90% of the aluminum needs. You aren't aware of that, are you? - No comment here: Oh, and your material types: 3003, 5052, 6061. They're a joke. As Isaid, some 6061 is used, the other types, if ever use, are so obscure it's not worth mentioning. - Obviously never heard of this: But what you were supposed to google and missd was that when forming compunds where you can't form with a wheel, which is almost never used, you use 2024-O or 7075-O. "O" material is not hardened, it very malleable, even at .100 thickness If you need to cold work a part that is a 90 degree angle, you need to create a simple radius on one edge, while the other stays 90, what process do you use; what tool? For example, the keel beem I made for that Chieftain, they were 7.5 feet long. from teh spar to the nose and I cold formed them in 1 piece, what tool and process did I use? Remember, they're 90 degree angles, but this 7.5 ft long angle follows the curvature of teh bottom of the fuselage. I don't see anything of the "O" material I was speaking of, using forming blocks. Must be a new concept to you. Appaerntly, you don't know processes that well. Of course if you ever worked acft, you would know the engineer is our bitch, we build it and they draw pictures to make it legal. So what do you do now? If you were really motivated you would become an FAA DER, you could retire in 10 years. I'll photobucket pics of that Flint tank installation I put at wing sta 100-136, that was my engineering and workmanship, the engineer (DER) is drawing it to make it legal.

Whatcha smokin? Thx for being so huge in this thread; you own it baby.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_gubernatorial_elections,_2009 I realize your linear process of thinking won't allow for deviation, but there are elections today in some places and referendums too. Well, that's the understatement of the year, I would say a putrid embarassment.

which ones? Cars that run on steam or solar panels? I'm exited to know! Tell me! Tell me! Electric. Didn't Obama send a few Billion to electric car development? And someone just posted a thread about nuclear power facilities. I think some interest is in alternate fuels, but mostly electric, that will be the bridge to alt fuels, as they will take longer. And that electricity primarily comes from the burning of coal and natural gas. Not really alternative yet. Well it didn't happen in 15 minuites, I say we fire him and go back to petro.

What should that cost? 30 cents? 5 dollars? 25 dollars? You Pick!! As it is now, 200 miles worth of gas costs about $27 if you get 20MPG, so even if it were higher than you stated, it would still be a good deal. Isee you're trying to be Socratic and poke at it, but it's a great start regardless of what the right says. Indep from OPEC, environmental healing; it's a win/win all around.

Yep, most of the GM cars are electric now, especially after Obama gave them all that bailout money!!! I wouldn't say most, but a good start and a good value for the bailout $

I would say more is known now and also you're talking about a different group of people - diff generation. Also, petrolium wasn't such a devil then as it is now, so Nuke becomes a lesser evil.

Do you work with Homer Simpson?