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Fine dude - YOU can take a step back in time and sweat while you work, or try to sleep, with the government deciding when. I'll continue to control most aspects of my life. I'm liberal, but I'm not a nut about it. (credit to Bush Sr. for that one) -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Well ya got me there - most people WON'T notice, cause this crap ain't ever passing! But there is an intrusion into your home - an electronic intrusion. What's next? Mics, cameras? They need the cameras to make sure you have no window units installed! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

........................................................................ Well, not really.....Jumps to eight grand were $3.50. You could buy a main and reserve for a couple hundred. A brand new para-commander was about three hundred. You could train and make your first static line for $50. Even poor college kids could afford to jump back then. OK, well then yes, they were wilder back then. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Apples and Oranges. Shutting you down does not involve any intrusion into your home. And what about people who use solar power and sell energy back to the utilities, or supplement their usage some other way? It is moot anyway. If you force people to do this they will just install a window unit. Many, many people use them already. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Smuggling drugs and running guns? I guess jumping was expensive back then, too. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Investing in capacity that is only used a couple days a year? It seems more practical to invest in lowering the max usage. We're not remotely close to efficient and there is still a hell of a lot of low hanging fruit. Well, in America we don't let the government control our A/C. More efficient appliaces? Yes. A control system that overrides our choices inside our home? No way. The slippery slope that would create would be a nightmare. And everyone would just find a simple workaround anyway. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

The way it would actually work if this were put into affect: DJL would light a candle and set it under the thermostat so it has a false reading. EXACTLY. Hey, here's a nucking futs idea: How about we invest in infrastructure???!!! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Why do they need that info about me in a central database? The only reason is that they want to data mine the info to find potential criminals. That goes against everything this country stands for. A computer will spit out a guess, and then the feds come to do a 'sneak and peek' to see if you might be a crook. Sorry, no. You want to stop hijackings? Secure the cockpit. You want to stop criminals from making bombs? Go for it. But the properly licensed people are not likely to be involved. The next thing you know, they will want to control the thermostat in out homes. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

That is one of the wackiest things I have ever heard. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

How about a pistol with a teser underneath and 2 triggers? (one for taser, one for bullet). The rule can then be, you only pull this weapon when you may need to shoot someone. Then, once it's out, the taser in an option, should the situation warrant. This might cut down on cops pulling a teser an a student in a library, etc. Also, it will eliminate the situation where a cop pulls taser and crook pulls firearm. Thoughts? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Ah bullshit. We have had no attacks after 9/11, so obviously we don't need this shit. This is just nore crap to pay taxes on. This will create an entire government agency. We don't need a Big Brother state. That is not America, and I will not allow it to become my America. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

And they ARE faked. I think they sell them on street corners in Columbia. Anyway, those are for an international traveller. The REAL ID is for American citizens. I HAVE a real ID. Several, actually. If my PA driver's license isn't good enough, in combiation with my Soc Sec card, too damn bad. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

One of the very worst things to happen in this country is to close so many of the institutions that used to house the criminally insane as well as most of the people we call homeless now. That was due to budgetary cuts and politicians who felt they were not needed. I would rather see the whack jobs in a nice mental institution than out on the streets doing crime... at least in the mental institutions.... they have a warm bed... food.. and hopefully ONLY the proper drugs to medicate them into enough of a stupor so they have some semblance of a quality of life instead of druggin and robbin and self medicating with the proceeds of their crime. You are right. My wife is in the mental health field (she married me, didn't she?) and they recently closed a mental hospital here and moved the patients "into the community". Reason? Mainly, people don't like paying taxes. So go introduce yourself to your paranoid delusional neighbor, you cheap bastard! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

If they can make a REAL ID, crooks and terrorists can fake one. This is just fucking stupid. Improve physical security where it needs to be and this shit can be forgotten. Note to terrorists: Recruit a few 50 year olds to carry your bombs and you are fine. I mean seriously - how stupid ARE these fucking people??? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

My poop smells like bacon. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

So I guess colleges should shut down those economics classes and we can send Bernake packing?? I disagree. Sound, responsible economic policy by the world's leading economic power sets the tone for the global economy. Taxes, trade agreements, international relations, and other such arenas under the president's umbrella all affect the economy of the USA and the world. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Some economists say that it has already started: http://biz.yahoo.com/cnnm/080109/010908_recession.html This seems to be a stinging rebuke of Bush economic/tax/spending policy. Unemployment is on the rise, home ownership is on the decline and may return to levels lower than when Bush took office, credit problems plague the nation, personal saving are at an all time low, and wages are not keeping pace with inflation. How do the Bushites want to spin all this? It should be entertaining at least. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Not to be a debbie downer, but check that stat again next year. Do they mention the savings rate in that article, because Americans aren't saving shit. We are spending money we don't even have. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Well, it has been quite a looooong time. Firstly, I can't touch the stuff due to my job. Secondly, I diidn't like feeling tired and hungry, watching cartoons, and going to bed on a Saturday night. But seriously, cigs can give off that smell from time to time. Other friends have said the same thing. As to burning weed in an ashtray for the cops - How are they allowed to keep weed on hand??? You just know they are like "One ounce for the ashtray, one ounce for me....." -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

So, if cops aren't pot heads, and are not law breakers themselves, how do they know what it smells like? Secondly, does a scent give probable cause? The reason I ask is because sometimes when you are smoking a cigarette (Marlboro) it suddenly smells exactly like pot for a few seconds. It only happens once in a while, but it is nearly an exact scent match. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Yeah right.... c'mon dude.... You set that thing up to slam fire! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I have a stun gun that fits neatly inside an empty pack of smokes. It comes in handy when some homeless dude gets a bit pushy when trying to bum a smoke. But I am switching to e-cigarettes, so I will have to find an alternative, I guess. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

yes.. up till now ive been lucky but eventually my luck will run out, or i'll stop doing stupid things first. (if its the former don't waste the tears they wont bring me back) skydivers take active measures to help ensure their 'stupid acts' are not fatal, but if/when those measures fail...YES. Jumping out of a plane IS an action 'worthy of' death (particularly when you take no precautions to prevent the eventual outcome) toying with anything 'fatal' without taking personal precautions IS 'stupid', failure to recognize when you are dealing with a "fatal situation" is the definition of Ignorance. the only good that may come out of this entire event is more people will recognize wild animals are NOT play toys.. EVEN if you think you are 'safe' from them. I don't care if the kid shot the lion with a BB gun - he did not deserve to die for 'taunting' a supposedly restrained animal. To suggest that a kid deserves to be mauled to death for teasing a lion is fucking SICK. It's not like he was on safari with a steak tied to his head like some Jackass stunt. He was a teenager in a zoo. By the way - still no proof whatsoever of taunting. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I think it's more like 5%, but I'm not positive on that. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Hell if I know! I just started learning about futures and how leverage works, and how you can control 70,000 barrels of oil with $3200, which to me, is fucking nuts. But if you can control 70,000 barrels with $3200, that means that $100,000 controls 2,170,000 barrels of oil. And that many barrels CAN affect the price. Higher margins would mean less leverage, and more stable prices. (if I get theis whole futures thing, which I think I do) -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.