Zipp0

Jer-ry! Jer-ry! Jer-ry! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

My little brain was joking..... jeez! Let me guess...... You are French Canadian? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

That study is just a bunch of BS lefty propoganda! Blues, Dave As is its existence. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Bah. What a freakin' moron. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I don't belive it for a second. Canada has a war memorial? Yeah, right. What.... someone tried to steal a keg of Molson, eh? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I'd love to take credit for the Yosemite Decimal System and the rest, but they were implemented long before I started going into the mountains.... But if it impresses the ladies, I won't complain. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I'd put Everest on the back burner for a bit. It's not a climber's mountain anymore anyway. I started climbing about 12 years ago, and it is great fun. Right now I'm not in "climbing shape" but it doesn't take me too long to get back to a decent standard. When in shape, I lead 5.8 and aid up to A3. Where are you located? In the East there are several great options in addition to any small local crags. My favorite spots are Seneca Rocks WV, with dead vertical multi-pitch trad climbing with an alpine feel, and Looking Glass, NC. Looking glass is granite and has multi-pitch trad routes as well as "big wall" type routes, requiring (most) sleeping on the wall in a portaledge. I tried "Glass Menagerie" a few years back (5.9 C2 or so) and failed miserably. Looking up at 800 feet of overhanging rock is more intimidating than looking out the door of an airplane before a jump, in my opinion. Plus, hauling up 120 lbs of gear and sleeping on the wall is just wild. If I were you I'd pick up "Mountaineering: The Freedom of the Hills" at Amazon, and read the whole thing. The you can decide if you want to do Trad (technical rock), big wall aid climbing, ice, alpine, or expeditions. Your location will absolutely affect your options. And lastly, it can be very dangerous. It's very much like skydiving in that mental errors can get you killed, as well as objective hazards, like a rock the size of a refrigerator falling on you. At the same time, it can be done pretty darn safely, with proper instruction and good decision making. I used to publish a website called 'climbcentral.com'. Here's an article I wrote a while back that sums it up nicely: http://www.lytewave.com/ccentral/so.html Zipp0 ps. If any skydivers in PA want to give climbing a shot, I'd be more than happy to be your free guide for a day. or a weekend. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

This explains all of the problems at NASA. The damn scientists are smoking crack!!!! Even worse, they are apparently attempting to use it as some kind of foam additive on the external fuel tank!! Is this where is $1.5 billion went? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Aw, don't be coy. And your reaction would not be , but rather . -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

My left side and right side are slightly different sizes, but one in the middle is huge. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Modern Conservatism -Aggressive, pre-emptive military action. Unilateral if necessary. Bottomless military spending. -outsource all labor thus eliminating the working middle class and concentrating more power in a small economic elite. -centralize power in the executive branch and marginalize the other branches as much as possible. -squelch dissent through limits on personal freedoms and limits on the media. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Actually, NASA recently allowed a group of researchers to employ dozens of their most sophisticated computer systems to analyze political idiocy in the United States. The study concluded that there is more right wing idiocy, and that many ideas of the left perceived as idiotic is actually liberals being sarcastic. see results here: http://www.nasa.gov/studies/politics/libconduh.pdf -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I love how non-lockblades are fine. The trouble is, a non locking knife is pretty useless. Severed fingers anyone? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

By pure statistics it might cut knife crime - but I'll bet hammer crime increases. Then the hammer amnesty program..... and round and round we go. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I'd say there was a fundamental MISunderstanding. I was attempting to be funny. And yes, I absolutely understand the teachings of the church, I just happen to think that many of the teachings are bunk. Not to say that the church has no redeeming values - there are many church teachings that I still follow and appreciate. But surely booting scientists out the door is not the answer. I really don't think that is what Jesus would do. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I'm further right than Charleton Heston on this issue. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

do we really need to let this discussion deteriorate this way? First of all, maybe address the meat and bones of my post, and not 2 sentences. I said that because it is significant that I attended 12 years of Catholic school, and I think the church is hosed. I think the Catholic church is doomed without some fundamental changes. I am not some outsider with no knowledge of the church, or its teachings, but rather someone who learned the teaching of the church for many years. And I am allowed to express my opinion, whether you agree with it or not. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Ahhh...... memories...... -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

What is wrong with a petri dish, or a test tube? Those are the tools that modern man and science uses to do such things as curing or preventing horrible diseases. God gave man the gift of science and the ability to learn and grow. He gave us the ability to learn how to allow people to have kids who otherwise could not. Living with a horrible disease that could be cured through stem cell research is the true indignity. I hope that the scientist that eventually cures disease like parkinsons is a test tube baby, and I hope that stem cells are the answer. The Catholic church is consistent all right - consistently hosed. See what 12 years of Catholic school will do to you? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

4 inch blade. right? Maybe they could try knife regisration, or maybe a concealed knife permit. Is there a stabbing epidemic or something? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Any alcohol or drugs involved? Was the kid short and fat and maybe the harness system didn't fit his body type properly? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Just wanted to reply specifically to this. Everything you post here is for all the world to see, good or bad. Sometimes, these things can come back to your personal life. I've been around here a while and people know I'm not a troll. I wiped my personal info out of my profile after what happened to PhillyKev and Aggie Dave. I'll never put that info back, but I may reveal it privately. I would urge everyone to consider very carefully what information about themselves they wish to become public. What happened (briefly) to them? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Actually, it's called adverse conditioning.

My first reaction was "Four years for making liquor??!!!" And then I realized the penalty in the USA would probably be higher. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Most Americans (I'd guess) couldn't give 2 shits about the legal and procedural basis. The important thing is, a decision was made in keeping with the tradition and spirit of American values. To me, that is the important part. I will read the opinion when I have the time, just to see what each justice had to say, and the basis of their arguments. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.