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umm..I don't get it.

Wipe your mouth. It's orange.

aah, we just need to give you some more time then!

Don't you guys usually make the opposite claim?

Shouldn't you be drinking?

I don't think this is going to get better between the three of you. I'd bail sooner rather than later, before it gets really ugly. I don't think you should need to give them more than 30 days' notice, either. Unless you have some other agreement in writing. They sound resentful and jealous, and who wants to live in that kind of environment anyway?

I notice how you never actually respond to my points. For as much as you claim to be finding humor in all of this, you're certainly not able to let it go, are you? For the record, I definately think it's important to know how to pack for yourself. Whether a person chooses to do so on a regular basis is entirely up to them. Why should I care? Bottom line is: you and I don't have to agree. But don't accuse me of not reading or understanding your posts. I have read them all very thoroughly, and have formed my responses only on the words you have typed. I understand your point. I just don't agree with you.

No one on here was attacking packers in the first place. You were the only one suggesting there should be a limit on who can pay them to provide a service. Pay being the operative word. I have a friend who pays for his jumps by packing. Without willing customers, he'd not have the extra cash to jump. I've never heard him bitch about lazy people paying him to pack. This could be interpreted as a dig against packers, and it's your own words. If anyone can stuff some nylon in a bag, maybe I'll have my 4-year old nephew do it for me. Wow. But you're not trying to be the packing sheriff? Your analogy would be correct if you were referencing TI's, not packers. Think about it. Because someone else makes extra cash by me doing so? Because there are packers who wish to be paid to do so, and without customers, that's impossible? How many reasons do I need? How about because I'm an adult and I can choose to do so, even if it is simply because I'm lazy or want to save my energy. Oh, thank you. Could you outline how often once in a while is so we don't break the 'using packers' rules? But only you can determine the 'good reason'. And for the record, no one on this thread was blaming or knocking packers in any way. You chose the wrong thread for your rant. Go back and read your own quotes. You need to do some reading yourself. Not one person said you were calling packers useless. You're calling those who use packers useless, unless it's for the 'acceptable' reasons you outlined. Again, not a belief that is going to be widely endorsed by those trying to build a customer base from packing. So how are you defending them? Every one of your analogies have been a lot off. But only you get to decide who those people are. Bottom line, yes you are entitled to your opinion. As I am entitled to mine. But you posted knowing full well you were being inflammatory, so stop whining about it when you get the responses you expected.

hmm...guess you're not a real skydiver, Mar!!

Oh, sorry! What was I thinking? I would hate to not be one of the cool kids!

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2362959#2362959 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2343370#2343370

Well dang, why doesn't everybody skydive then? And why is it considered so dangerous? And what's with all the pasky training we have to go through? Are you kidding? You really believe 100% that there is no other reason than laziness that the average jumper uses a packer? You're funny! ~By the way, I hope you never plan on supplementing your income by packing, now that you've alienated 90% of your customer base.

Since this has developed into a religious "debate", perhaps this is pertinent: I purposely stay out of there for exactly this reason.

I used to.

aaagh!!! I'm watching re-runs and I don't know what season they're from. I didn't know he got shot.... well damn, now I'm going to have to figure out how far behind I am and how to get all caught up!

Nah, I'm thinking of Cameron. She told him she couldn't come back to work for him because she had feelings for him that he didn't seem capable of returning. I think!..

I think she already has. Remember when she quit? (I'm watching re-runs and I don't know how old they are...)

I have been told by many people that my experience in the tunnel should help me immensely when I start AFF. As a matter of fact, I have scheduled my AFF, and told my coach I'd like to work on the elements I will need for it. He told me that I'd already gone beyond what I'd need to pass AFF. I did feel that I understood the arch much better during my tandems because I'd worked on it in the tunnel. I had a difficult time getting stable in the tunnel and my arch was terrible. I've been able to focus on that and really improve it, and I think it's given me more confidence that I will be able to get stable during solo freefall. Still, why not do both? (Some before, some during?)

Okay! Now that we've established that I'm right, let's un-hijack this thread!! That House, what a loveable scamp!! Will he and Cameron ever do the nasty?

Anybody try it yet? Anybody? Buehler?

Hint. I do this for a living.

You're not. Put a broom in your left hand. Pretend your right leg is the bum leg. Advance broom, advance right leg. Shift weight onto left arm, you can then advance left foot without putting weight on right foot. Now try it the other way. Which one works better?

You could propose to someone!

That's how it should be carried. But not how he does it. He carries it on his affected side. That's how all of tv land thinks you do it, but it's completely the opposite.

Unfortunately, he carries that damn stick in the wrong hand!!!! ER used to do that too. (Does it still?) That red-headed dr with the crutch in the wrong hand. It bugs me!! But I digress....I LOVE LOVE LOVE House. Yay sarcasm! And I LOVE LOVE LOVE Tivo. Yay no commercials!! I literally never watch live tv.