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.It does get a bit much to hear this shit, I mean a friking intuitive ultra-genius like Giordano Bruno get's burned at the stake for hitting the intellectual jackpot and the modern decendents of the folks who committed this crime against humanity are trying to say the Bible was right about that stuff all along even as they try to impede science on a number of fronts including geology, cosmology and most spectacularly, evolution. You know, science is not your ball, go play in the corner with your own toys and leave the world of the rational to the thinkers. The Bible isn't perfect - it's a collection of fables written by ancient man. The Bible is the word of God given in the words of men in history. The people you speak of possily recognise this fact, but for whatever reasons - refuse to accept these simple facts. And the problem lies with religious leaders. Not the bible. Besides, religious leaders have nearly always been corrupted through their 'power.' It seems real intellect is required to interpret biblical statements in comparison to what we know through science. But I think it's wrong to completely decide certain parts are complete codswallop through findings of science. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Er....perhaps such an act could come into a sexual depravity classifacation Still - there apparantly is a solution. Introduce your bloke to a big dildo It must work - FHM said so! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

No, I disagree with you Bill - living to 70 is normal - and why not skydive? I know older people who jump. It's just not in the same context as gay weddings. How many animal species are full on gay? It's not how mother nature intended. Now, if that's ones sexual orientation, we should be evolved enough to accept it - and yes, they should have the same rights.......but not marriage! It's so wrong in regards to human nature! Perhaps gay couples should receive the same status as male/female married couples in society, but without the marriage part. Because it's unnatural! Now, I do agree with a legal union - but not marriage. For me marriage is quite literally a sacred and religious act. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

That would be lovely Bill, but unnatural. If people are gay - fine, but I'm uncomfortable with the normalisation of being gay, such as gay weddings. I'm not anti-gay, I just feel it's not right. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Well there is certainly an element of logic on your statement, but using the Afghan bum nights as an example - in their eyes it's not a homosexual relationship the fact their bumming some lad without a beard. To live together as a man and 'wife' would be regarded as homosexual and sinful. Which is an abomination. If every male became homosexual, what happens to the human race? It's fucked up. Wrong. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Yes mate - but that's probably because you've turned from a black and white slaphead into a green one. Or something. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

On the bright side, their lifestyle leans toward self elimination. Genius! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Whose that then? As crazy as it might sound - I say it in humour, in reference to the film 'So I Married an Axe Murderer' when the main characters mother is talking about 'the news.' Anyway, would you move that gargantuan cranium of yours? I'm trying tae watch the fitba! Ssh - you'll give the boy a complex.... Aye - he'll be cryin' himself tae sleep on his gigantic pillow!

Ok, point taken. But if you believe in God and the bible, and especially what's said in the book of Revelation, then armageddon does seem more likely to be knocking on our doors anytime soon. Complete disbelief in religion doesn't really change the likelihood of the event. A little example is the rapidly reducing polar icecap. We're in the shit. Fact!

Are we ever - is it any wonder we're (America/the west) referred to as the Great Satan? Whilst on the homosexual front - the Afghan's males quite happily indulge in 'bum' nights on Thursdays. Generally it's the blokes without beards who get bummed. Disgusting. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Hahahaha!! You been out on a bender mate? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

doh.....let me think.......FRANCE!?

bollox! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

It's a good point - the depravity on the internet is not exactly a good example of the human race is it? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I do agree - there is enough going wrong with how allied forces are conducting themselves in Iraq and Afghanistan to seriously piss me off. But what really pisses me off are the individuals who are unable to understand just what these 'people' are all about, and would quite happily stand back and do nothing, allowing themselves to be f'ed up the arse for want of a better expression. Jeez! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I also don't really imagine a nuclear exchange as being the way we'll be wiped out. I think global warming will see to that, or perhaps intelligent lifeforms arriving, and taking over our minds, so that we all cut ourselves in half with bandsaw's. Wibble.

Ok - if for example a serious nuclear exchange was to take place between Iran and Israel, would it be likely to simply end at that? The word 'escalation' springs to mind..... 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Is that from 'Life of Brian?' 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I do see your point ref. Black Death but I still feel modern man has far more potential to destroy earth through technology. I've also felt a nuclear war between Nato and the Soviet Union to be a non-starter. Nuclear exchanges between India and Pakistan and Israel/Iran seem far more likely. I'm not insisting armageddon will happen soon - I just have a spooky feeling towards it all. As you said yourself, we've came close enough in the past. This fact illustrates the likelihood - not diminishes it. I personally know people who would've been firing the first shots in a situation which could have very easily escalated into a nuclear exchange with Russia, in 1999. Thankfully it never came to that. p.s. when it seemed increasingly likely that Bush would become US President - guess how often it appeared in the UK tabloids armageddon was nigh!? A lot.

Indeed they have. But in the past they didn't quite have the capabilities to completely fuck the entire planet up, such as nuclear or biological weapons. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

And no, I'm not referring to my mother-in-law. I've always had this odd concern that the end of the world will come about during my adult life. God knows why. In work we were talking about the armageddon clock approaching midnight, and it struck me initially as being rather odd, the amount of people who expected armageddon to occur in their lifetimes. Then even quite concerning. Nobody could agree on what shape or form it might happen; ideas suggested were global warming, nuclear strikes, biological weapons and even God eventually deciding to just call it a day, and put us out our misery. A bit of a wacky post yes. Now post your answer, or you'll burn in hell! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I'm sure that would go down like a concrete parachute! There is an urban myth I heard once where some dickhead invited in some Mormons and put some LSD in their orange juice........a short while later the 2 missionaries were last seen sprinting up the street at arond Mach 1, as if all the demons from Hell were after them. Terrible, yes, but no doubt untrue. I hope. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I have actually invited such people into my house in the past and their generally ok. A few months back some Mormons came round and we had a good laugh - only problem was, after that they decided to become my new best mate and were round constantly. My Mrs reckons they're like vampires - invite them into your house and you lose all your powers. Or something. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Haha - try telling Tony Blair - when one of the characters was wrongly jailed, he appealed for her release...the tit. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Nah - I misspelled capitulation. But cheers anyway Ken. (I'd best explain 'Ken'; it stands for Kenneth Barlow, a very boring character from a British Soap called Coronation Street. So generally if somebody makes a rather boring and pointless remark you'd reply, "Yeah, cheers for that Ken."