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Yes, I have. Post#4. And you've yet to demonstrate why you're not wrong. But don't worry - we'll discuss this on Saturday, I'll be happy to make myself clear, as you're continually skipping around the issue of where you're not wrong and I am! Are you mad? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

You can't listen can you? Whilst you're scrabbling amongst the 'scree', try a bit harder. Give me some feedback on why I'm saying you're wrong! Otherwise you're just crabbing about and wasting bandwidth. You are wrong. Fuckin' deal with it. Or shut up. It's getting beyond juvenile - so just fuck off. If you'd like to carry on the discussion I'll happily come along to your DZ. Would you like that?

I said this earlier: 'Not relative to post#1. Whilst your statement about a group of people being influenced by others isn't wrong, by saying he was right makes your statement. . . . wrong.' The way this is going, I reckon all my replies will literally consist of earlier replies. So admit you're wrong and shut up. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

They're no doubt smoking it the odd time themselves - mental! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

You're still wrong. Hence why it's better if you just shut up. Why? Because I've already answered your recent questions. And you're still wrong. And you're also aware of that fact too. So who's full of shit? Do yourself a favour. Shut up. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I think he's just trying to explain how lovable, sweet and innocent a child with DS can be!

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Ok, so what makes you say that the founding fathers were not influenced by English tradition? (Remember, also being influenced by a bunch of pontificating haggis munchers does not preclude this) Jakee. Shut up. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Not relative to post#1. Whilst your statement about a group of people being influenced by others isn't wrong, by saying he was right makes your statement. . . . wrong. You are the Weakest Link, goodbye. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

A poor example - and you're still wrong. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Cheers. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

In 'Jakee World' perhaps. You're still wrong, whatever mind you think I have. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

It's you who isn't getting it, because you're wrong. So piss off and hold hands with another man if that's your thing. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Well, yeah. You've abused someone for using the exact same tactic you use and you (apparently) knew you were applying a double standard. Thought it was kinda wierd. Wierd or weird? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Can't help you with a Gunsmith but could the problem be with your ammo? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Is it necessary to ask? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Your remarks on children with DS ring very true; I realised that working at the Special Olympics once, but many people haven't quite got first hand experience like yourself. So it's good to hear about it. Ultimately it's the parents selfish decision in regards to their families future well-being. I think Wendy pretty much summed it up. p.s. Have you looked at your Armageddon-ometer recently? What does it say? Anything about Obama? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

The queen of ]Scotland. That'd be this lady, wouldn't it? You know...the same one that rules the REST of the United Kingdom? Not the Queens! Three Scottish commercial banks - Bank of Scotland, Royal Bank of Scotland and Clydesdale Bank issue their own notes to their own designs. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Sorry! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Funny you say that. My Mrs said pretty much the same thing to me the other day. And she's always right. p.s. sorry for saying you're full of shit earlier. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Crazy is certainly the right word here. If he's right by saying 'English tradition' rather than 'Scottish Enlightenment', as you claim, surely your claim is in actual fact wrong: 'Because (and here's a radical concept for you) a group of people can be influenced by more than one thing.' 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

But then again, what if the loan for the business had turned out to be a runaway success? And they were then able to move into a $900 000 home? Still, maybe they'll win the Lottery on Saturday. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

See, you're making things up again! Where, in this thread, did I get defensive? The answers right above ya! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Interesting. If you knew I was going to pick up on the hypocrisy then you realise that you're doing it, which puts you above Rush at least. I'm impressed. I knew that you wouldn't just pick up on it, you'd literally leap upon it. Like this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/rayskwire/Random/Too_Much_Computer.gif Glad you're impressed. A snide comment at both myself and Rush. Well done. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

WASHINGTON: Ahead of Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani's maiden visit to the US, Democratic Presidential nominee Barack Obama has said that al-Qaida's safe haven in the Pakistan's restive northwest is a "huge problem" for the American troops. At the Unity Convention of minority journalists in Chicago, Senator Obama repeated what top administration officials including senior military officials have been saying persistently -- that "more effective cooperation" is needed from Pakistan to get rid of the safe havens. "They've (al-Qaida and Taliban) got safe havens there (in Pakistan's tribal areas) that US troops can't follow -- that is a huge problem," Senator Obama said. "We're going to need more troops in Afghanistan. But we're also going to need more effective cooperation from the Pakistani government in rooting out these safe havens," the Illinois Senator said. Obama is expected to meet Gilani on Tuesday in which the goings on along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border and safe havens inside Pakistan are expected to be discussed. The Democrat Senator has had some tough words for Islamabad since last August on tracking down the al-Qaida and the Taliban stressing that if Washington had actionable intelligence it will strike unilaterally. "... we've got to get Afghanistan right. If you've got al-Qaida, you've got the Taliban in training camps and safe havens just a few miles inside the Pakistan border that can act with impunity, then it is going to be hard for us to stabilize Afghanistan. "And those folks are in a position then to plot how to kill Americans. We've got to get the Pakistani government involved in a much more significant way than they are right now," he added. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Pakistans_restive_areas_a_huge_problem_for_US_Obama/articleshow/3293372.cms Now that really is interesting! With all the extra troops in Afghanistan, no doubt getting killed and injured, will he find the time to visit them in hospital? Will he find the time to visit them in hospital even when he can't take his media entourage and photographers with? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=5449455&page=1 Even George Bush made private, unnanounced visits with no media entourages and photographers! Maybe by then he'll know how many states make up the USA. And it isn't 57.... 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'