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if you're talking to a girl, ask her if she douched tonight... if she says "no, WHY??" tell her "because you need to, you smell like a dead fish!" I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

well you could like, really base good of um, squeakers smarts, 'cose he's like real rntelligunt intalijent gifted and stuff. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

sorry girls, but it couldn't be more true if it came from God Herself I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

The NTSB report said the pilot had a private pilot license. Therefore he/she can not fly commercially, that is, not as a job. This leads me to speculate that the pilot owned the airplane. I think your statement "the poor pilot!" should be "the rich, lucky, stupid more-money-than-brains pilot". just thought I'd add my 2 cents. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

My experience has nothing to do w/ this. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I wouldn't do it. You have to wait to slow down to terminal, then pitch. From 2k, that ain't all good. even 3k makes me all jittery... I know that's around normal pull alti, but it just "looks" different to me in a plane. I don't know. Makes me nervous. 2k? No way. God I'm glad everyone lived. Hope the injured pull through w/o incident. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I know one guy who can. Wears a lot of black, carries a scythe. Peter Griffin: Who are you" Death: I'm Calista Flockhart! Who do you think I am? I'm DEATH! God I love that show! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

GOD DAMNED WHIPPERSNAPPERS! Watch that mouth there Grue, you'll be meeting "The Lord" any minute now! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

No, I think Pops has got you beat by a year. Chris To quote some of the people from my generation: "Oh.. fucking.. snap!" considering how brittle bones get at your advanced age, I think you need to reconsider downsizing that Fusion. GET OFF MY LAWN What's with old people today? Can't tell 'em anything! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

No, I think Pops has got you beat by a year. Chris To quote some of the people from my generation: "Oh.. fucking.. snap!" considering how brittle bones get at your advanced age, I think you need to reconsider downsizing that Fusion. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

What do I think? I think I'm glad everyone is alive. Holy Cow! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

BAHAHAHA!!! I'd love to see Grue's mug plastered on the back of a jar of Smucker's Strawberry Preserves! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

No, they aren't necessarily contradictory. Unfortunately John, we live in a world of generalizations. When a lot of what you say SOUNDS like the anti-gun, gun-banning liberal crowd, you tend to get labelled w/ that label. And the fault lies squarely w/ me for applying that label to you. However, I have to say from personal experience that possessing guns HAS made me and my family safer. I've posted about one incident before, so I won't bore you w/ the details a second time. As far as the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis, thanks to your information, I'm re-evaluating that. But the idea certainly makes sense to me. I mean, If law abinding citizens are armed and willing to defend themselves and others against armed thugs, wouldn't it follow that armed thugs would reconsider their actions? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Oh is that all? I thought you were going to tell us that today was your birthday! Seriously, thank God for brave souls who stood up to such evil. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Well, I'm sure John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy did some good things too. Torturing and killing tens of thousands of "heretics" would seem to me worthy of the death sentence for the organization. It CERTAINLY doesn't give the Roman church the moral authority to try to dictate legislation that affects me and my family. According to your criteria then, you're living in a country that should also be put to death. Rember Hiroshima? Nagasaki? An estimated 354,000 died in those attacks, almost all of them civilians. Women, children, grandparents. The acts of dropping fat man and little boy were just as unjust as the acts of the Inquisition. Whereas the US couched it's attack in the name of trying to win a war against an unjust aggressor, the abomination of the Inquisition was couched in an attempt to preserve it's doctrine from error which "could damn souls to hell." Misguided, quite an understatement. The US is so much more than just the sum of her "sins" committed against Japan. Elsewhere, too. Likewise, the Catholic Church is much, much more than just the sum of her mistakes and transgressions. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

"Salient" according to whom? Not according to St. Kallend, that's for damned sure. But since the canonical texts in the Catholic Bible contain more books than the Protestant Bible, the "salient" stories are not more restricted or censored as you seem to be intimating. Why don't you do this, John: Look through the three yearly cycles of OT, NT, and Gospel texts found in the daily/Sunday Catholic liturgies and compare them to the themes of the Bible. See if any are missed You miss the point. Cherry picking. Try being less obtuse. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Her missal was more the size of a pocket dictionary. She had several Bibles in the house, and even sent me a big fancy one when I told her that I had become a Christian. The idea was an affront to her. "All you need to be is a Catholic , because that's how you were raised," was her mentality. Most of us, at some point in our Christian experience, usually early on, become rigid and contentious about what we know. Often times, this is exploited and encouraged by the leadership of any given church. We must learn to separate religiousness from faith in Christ. Much of what we do is just time filling, dead ritual. Of course, this could apply to any number of secular orginzations, also. Here is where we part company... for the Catholic whose faith is truly alive, it is not just "time filling, dead ritual." Too often it is, unfortunately, but OTOH, it is supposed to envelope the whole body, in the worship experience... the ears and the mind in the reading and hearing of the Word, the smells of incense, the seeing of vaulting, reaching architecture, soaring to the Heavens, catechetical stained glass and statues which teach us of scenes of Christ's life and of His disciples, using our arms and legs in blessing ourselves w/ the sign of the cross and in humbling ourselves by kneeling and genuflecting before the thrown of God, etc. etc. See, for the Catholic, Christ is one with His Church, b/c She is His Bride. They are inseperable. That is the meat and potatoes behind your mom's statement of, ""All you need to be is a Catholic," even if she couldn't elucidate it at the time. Until the Orthodox split in the 12th cent. and then the Anglican split and then the rest of the Reformational splits later in the 15/16th cents, there was just one Church that was Christ's bride... While there is some truth in your statement that one can indeed be spiritual w/o organized religion (and conversely, I'm sure we all know many, many people, sadly enough who are religious and not at all spiritual and I all too often fall in to this latter category, I'm afraid), it was Christ Himself who gave us His Church to help us to lead us to Him. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

"Salient" according to whom? Not according to St. Kallend, that's for damned sure. But since the canonical texts in the Catholic Bible contain more books than the Protestant Bible, the "salient" stories are not more restricted or censored as you seem to be intimating. Why don't you do this, John: Look through the three yearly cycles of OT, NT, and Gospel texts found in the daily/Sunday Catholic liturgies and compare them to the themes of the Bible. See if any are missed I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

yeah, I guess I don't think kallend is the Debbil himself after all! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I had my own as a kid. The missal that I saw couldn't have possibly contained the contents of the Bible. My point is that Catholics from her era were discouraged from reading the Bible, as if understanding and discernment were solely the gift of the clergy. Our spiritual gifts are given to us by the Holy Spirit, and should be used to edify the Body of Christ, not just to ride herd on a bunch of sheep. My siblings seem to be exposed to considerably more scripture than I remember from that time. But then, I was probably ADD, and my mind was always somewhere else. PS. I am not your enemy. Hers might have been an abridged missal. Mine is in the attached picture. It is the official Missal, approved by the Vatican and I can assure you, at 2450 pages, it hits every salient story from Scripture. But I agree w/ you, that most Catholics, esp. from your mother's era, do not/did not know the Bible as they ought. I'm guilty of this as well.

I was raised Catholic, and two of my siblings are still die hard Catholics. I actually came to the awareness of the claims of Christ at about the age of thirty. It all became clear to me that all of the form and ritual in the world will do nothing for you in the end. I graduated highshool in 71 as a frame of reference. I do not ever remember hearing the the words of Christ, "Except a man be born again, he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven," preached in a Catholic sermon. I believe that because of the growth of the Protestant denominations, the Catholic Church finally got a handle on these scriptures. Guilt, as opposed to freedom, was the way that the Catholic Church reined in its subjects for ages. My mother, who died in Jan. this year, was a hard core Catholic. She had her missle, her prayer book, and her rosary, but I never saw her pick up the Bible and read it for herself, just to be sure that what was being taught could be verified. Thank God for the honesty of a man called Martin Luther. Did you ever look in your mother's missal? Contained within it were the readings for the Mass which came from, you guessed it, the Holy Bible! Each day, 365 days a year, there is a reading from the old testament, a psalm and a reading from one of the 4 gospels. On sundays, there is a reading from the OT, a psalm, a reading from the new testament, then a reading from one of the 4 gospels. Every year, the cycle changes so that over a period of 3 years, your mother was exposed to just about the entire bible. Did you ever hear your mother pray the rosary or meditate on the mysteries of the rosary? Each prayer comes directly from, you guessed it, the Holy Bible. And the mysteries? Right again, from events in the Holy Bible. Some examples... The Joyful Mysteries: 1. The Annunciation: Luke 1:26, The Angel Gabriel was sent from God.... to a virgin betrothed to a man, named Joseph, of the House of David. The virgin's name was Mary.... and following, to verse 38... 2. The Visitation: Luke 1:39-40, Mary set out, proceeding in haste into the hill country to a town of Judah, where she entered Zechariah's house and greeted Elizabeth, and following to verse 56 3. The birth of Jesus: Take your pick etc. etc. etc. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

An attitude of nonchalance today may be in order, but don't be surprised if tomorrow the beggar is you. Tides change very quickly in this world. It's very very arrogant indeed to think that you or your church know what's best for everyone else. Don't be so quick to judge kallend, you suffer from the same "character flaw" that you are accusing my church of. However, the motive of my church is not at all the same. Unfortunately, for some mysterious reason, you can only seem to ascribe nefarious motives to the church, seemingly based on mistakes it's made in the past to the complete ignoring of ALL the good it's done (which far eclipses the bad). I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Yeah, OY! LOL! "Ya know, I'm not really happy you left me here in this mucky water you fuck, so I'm gonna just get outa here m'self." I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

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... on YouTube.. long video, but worth it... pilot lands DOWNWIND in RAIN, w/ insufficient runway length, "loses brakes" per NTSB report, skids off runway and in to bay. Plane is evacuated but then left engine spools up "on it's own" and starts "taxiing" itself around the bay for a little while. Scary, yet hilarious. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V06LBgfuxgA NTSB report: http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20050526X00676&ntsbno=NYC05LA085&akey=1 I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...