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perhaps you're doing TOO MANY things in the bathroom and should get out more... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

hi sheep lover. glad all your travels were safe... be safe in Iraq, as safe as possible anyway. glad most things worked out ok. take good care, man. michael I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

thanks tink, and everyone else. if you can think of any other considerations, let me know. i appreciate everyone's input. happy new year! --michael I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

thanks John. your post is very helpful. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

thanks for the informative reply. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

preach on, my atmospheric amazon! and don't forget we have a reverend in our fold as well, and a prophet who jumps w/o parachutes, and a drug researcher (me), and a wrestling manager who posts pics of his dong (amateur porn star??? hmm??)... i bet whoever Nicole is, she's laughing her *** off at this thread. edited... trying to curb the swearing... starting the new years resolution thing early. head start and all of that. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

hmm... will keep you in mind... [evil grin] PM incoming I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

from .15 to $3 smackers! Not bad!

how slow was it to altitude w/ those big radials? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I don't know differences in dimensions, but the thing that is keeping me away from considering a C-123 Provider is that they have the old radial engines, and keeping them up just seems like such an excercise in futility. Plus, I think there is a much larger spares population out there for Caribous than Providers, which is a consideration when you're talking about 30-40 year old airframes, even w/ major overhauls. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Instead of retrofitting a caribou just go with a buffalo...would be a very cool jump plane I think... Although there are definate advantages to the Buffalo, i.e. faster, larger inside, etc., it's turbines aren't very reliable and more importantly, there are NONE that are certified in the US. Getting them certified is a multi-million dollar process w/ no guarantees. Just ask diver-driver. He's looked that beast head on. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Ok... serious question time... I'm trying to put a business proposal together and want some "real world" information... Would skydivers pay to regularly jump out of a turbine caribou (De Havilland DHC-4 Caribou, retrofitted w/ turbines in place of the old R-2000 radials)? For those who don't know, it's a tailgate, it'll hold 45 jumpers, but would take a little longer to 15k than a Twin Otter. Probably in the vacinity of 18 minutes. Big cabin, incredible short field performance, even on grass strips for dz's w/o paved runways. Or is this too much of a specialty AC? It seems ideal to me, except that it's damn expensive. Still, w/ consistent, relatively full loads, w/ lift tickets going for the national average b/t 20-25 per jump, it seems economically viable on paper. What do you think? Some pics... 1. Caribou interior. 2. Caribou tailgate (over 6' wide) 3. Caribou exterior-rear 4. Caribou exterior-front I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

that's one we should ALL follow... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I'm gonna try to not swear as much. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Well, you didn't hear the part about what I would do if I thought I'd run into you at the grocery store, Michael. Love ya, boy toy. Meet you in the produce isle, girl! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Michael had a mouth! I think I would've liked him! Hope you're doing well, as well as could be expected. When I was in 4th grade, we lived in MacDill AFB, Florida. My sister, who is 3 years older than me, and I used to fight like mad. Once when my parents weren't home, we got into it. I didn't have a shirt on for some reason, and when my back was turned to her she hit me as hard as she could in between the shoulder blades, knocking me out on the kitchen floor. A little while later, we went at it some more. She wore glasses and I hit her in the face, breaking her glasses. She pretended like a piece broke off and hit her in the eye and I immediately felt awful. I kept trying to see if she was ok, but she just kept crying and holding her face. Finally, when she felt I had grovelled enough, as I was close to her face trying to ascertain the extent of her "injuries," she stopped her feigned crying, and sucker punched me. Turns out that was her plan all along. Ah, the memories. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Wade. My manhood's name is Wade. It comes from when I lived in the Azores. I was in 7th grade. Wade Sawaya was my best friend. He scored w/ a really hot girl hamed Deanna and we were all envious. So, for some silly reason, I dubbed my chub Wade. There you have it. I named my wife's boobs Geefle and Gonk, after the Sesame Street puppets. Dunno why, was just in a mood that day I guess. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

that's a very good point. you're a wonderful person, rl. I truly mean that. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

good'un. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

And of course, the Mamba is a slang I got your slang right here, buddy. It's just a small, harmless slang. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

i'm sorry for your lose. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

preach on, peacefuljeffrey, preach on!! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

sorry, couldn't tell.

it's far from a catholic phenomenon. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...