DanG

I am not afraid of guns. Not everyone who disagrees with you is afraid of guns. I am a combat veteran. I am aware of my suroundings, there is nothing wrong with that. But refusing to carry anything in your draw hand when in public is not part of being aware. That is paranoia. Not even cops go that far. - Dan G

Guy sounds pretty paranoid to me. - Dan G

How did Holder do that? Is there a Federal death penalty for state crimes? No, there isn't. As usual, you've been lied to and ate it up since it's what you want to hear. - Dan G

I know exactly how that works. - Dan G

You should edit that. dogbites.org will quote that out of context. - Dan G

You want another source? Here's one: http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#4 You clearly didn't read what I wrote. I don't dispute that large breed dogs, including pit bulls, are more likely to be involved in a bite fatality. You're decided to ascribe that statistic to the dog and the dog alone. I was trying to point out that the owner is more likely the cause of the bad behavior, rather than the genetics of the dog. - Dan G

I think it all comes down to why you want to get a dog. Is it for basic companionship while you're vegging on the couch watching TV, or is it a running buddy you can do 10k runs with? What will you do with the dog when you're off jumping? If you're gone a lot, you need to get a dog that is low energy and can tolerate being alone. If you're very active and want a dog to run and play with you all the time, but you're also gone a lot, then you will likely have a problem with noise, chewing, or bad behavior. Dogs are like people. Some of them just wanna sit on the couch and chill, others want to do ultra-marathons. You wouldn't get a couch potato girlfriend and take her rock climbing every weekend, just like you wouldn't date a competitive volleyball player and get mad when she doesn't want to play CoD for ten hours. Don't ask the equivalent of your dog. - Dan G

I'd find a better source than "dogsbite.org". Not exactly neutral. Even taking the statistics at face value (which I'll address below) they can't discriminate what caused the dog to bite. Nat (and apparently you) claim that there is something in the dog's genes that makes them more likely to bite. You can't prove that with a statistic that says they bite more often. I can equally claim that they bite more often because their owners are less responsible on average, and more likely to encourage aggressive behavior. As far as the staistics go, they are also questionable. Every time there is an aggresive dog in the news, it is likely to be reported as a pit bull. That doesn't mean that it is. As an example, there was a viral video last year of a cat saving a toddler from a dog attack. The dog was widely repprted as a pit bull, even though on the video it was clearly not. Anyway,like I said, if an owner doesn't want a pit bull (or wants one for the wrong reasons) then they shouldn't get one. They can be very loving and friendly dogs, but they are not for everyone. - Dan G

Please don't buy a dog from a breeder. The chances are good that you'll end up with an inbred medical nightmare. Mutts have much lower incidence of genetic disorders, so they live longer and cost less. My wife used to work at an animal shelter. They were usually about 25% pure breds in the shelter. So if you have your heart set on a pure bred, the shelter is still a much better alternative. Breeders, no matter how "reputable" should not be supported when there are millions of unwanted dogs looking for a home. And pit bulls are great dogs if they are properly trained (like any dog should be). If they are abused and taught to be viscious, then that's what they'll be. The statistics on pit bull bites are highly skewed by the typical type of asshole that wants a pit bull because he thinks it makes him more manly. The idea that pit bulls will eventually turn on their owners is BS. Back in the day (100 years ago) pit bulls were known as the "nanny dog" because they were great with kids. The pit bull used to be the desired family pet in the US. The popularity of dog fighting changed that. We have a pit bull, and he loves kids. Michael Vick's pit bulls, probably not so much. It's all about the environment. That being said, if having a pit bull makes you nervous, then don't get one. Neither you or the dog will be happy. - Dan G

Source? - Dan G

Perhaps. As soon as the EPA starts doing that, you can call them terrorists. And please don't reply that their regulations will have the same effect. They won't. - Dan G

Thank you for proving my point from the other thread. - Dan G

I agree completely. I was trying to be pity. I guess what I should have said is when whites and blacks both stop thinking of "us" and "them" as separate groups, and starting thinking of "us" as human beings, then we can finally get a good round of kumbaya going. - Dan G

But blacks are supposed to apologize and feel bad about the riots in Ferguson? Nice double standard. - Dan G

You apparently don't know what civil rights are. - Dan G

Really? Please direct me to the posts where white people are apologizing for Loughner or Harris and Klebold. When we stop thinking of blacks as "them" the world will be a better place. - Dan G

I was outraged as a human being, not as a white person. It would be nice if blacks were allowed to be outraged as human beings, too. - Dan G

Your own definition says the use of violence AND intimidation, not violence OR intimidation. If the use of intimidation in the pursuit of political aims was terorism, then pretty much every PAC or lobbying group should be put on the terrorist watch list. I don't want the word terrorism to be watered down to the point of being meaningless. - Dan G

How about the last time a white person shot up a school or movie theater? Where was the outrage from the white community? - Dan G

They have only "appeared" that way because right wing pundits have made it their mission to convince their gullible listeners of it. If you listen to what they actually say, they do not promote the thug lifestyle or support rioting. - Dan G

You keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means. - Dan G

I agree with you. Every time a member or members of some "other" group, like blacks or Muslims, does something wrong, there is a spate of right wing posts here asking why the rest of that community isn't speaking out. It's stupid. I was commenting on that. - Dan G

Your point would be better served if you didn't have to stretch definitions to the breaking point in order to make it. - Dan G

So he says. It's beside the point, though. People, including regulator, have argued that we should force Mexico to free him because he's a US Marine, not because he's innocent. They have even gone so far as to say Obama hates the military, and his abandoning that guy is evidence. - Dan G

You've advocated for the Marine being held in Mexico on gun charges being freed because he's a Marine. - Dan G