NCclimber

On the recent CBS Sunday Morning Show I caught the following segment on the Anna Nicole Smith death. Here is what struck a cord: What is really disheartening is/are the posted responses. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/11/sunday/main2458378.shtml Seems like the vocal lowest common denominators are driving this train. Is there anything we can do about it? Besides looking for our news outside the mainstream?

How many times must I tell you - It was hyperbole!!! True, but in several of those cases you failed to provide proof supporting your actual claims... the ones I've asked about.

Guns R Kewl.

Well said, Mike. While the overall effect of gun bans can be debated indefinitely, it's pretty clear that the gun ban in England put the kibosh on random shooting sprees over there..

It's a vast conspiracy.

Which search engines?

Is this how it's going to be? You're going to play the victim on a regular basis, to deter me from calling you on your bullshit claims? Tissue? You know, the funny thing is,... if you'd just present some proof of your assertions, when pressed,... this little back and forth between us would be a non-issue. But I guess that's going on the presumption that those assertions aren't LIES.

Glad to hear it worked out for you. Kudos for sticking out and earning a B. Good luck.

You gonna use that for all your lies, in the future?

Did that yesterday for JohnRich in the gun sting thread. He simply disputed "mainstream". Lots of links to choose from - you choose one. Another low brow dodge by Kallend. We really should keep a running weekly count on the number claims you make, but (when asked for proof) deftly avoid confirming. It is impressive how you regularly make bullshit claims and dodge direct requests for a source. I'm not sure what it says about your character???

Failed to cover it up would be more accurate. The Pentagon's attempt failed. I never claimed it succeeded, that's you trying to muddy the waters. And still you've repeatedly dodged my requests to provide evidence that Colin Powell tried to cover up the massacre. SSDD It was sarcastic hyperbole, based on what was being incorrectly claimed by some GOP knotheads. Sorry you missed that. Narcimund provided 10 pages full of links. Get over yourself. One credible link. Just one. Define "credible". You can do what rushmc does, and dispute anything you don't like regardless of the source. As I asked before, what exactly do you dispute? That the Pentagon brass tried (and failed) to cover up My Lai, or that Powell was involved, or both? Or are you just wasting time here with keyboard masturbation? I've been asking the same question all along. Now you're getting hung up on the word "credible". Sheesh. What a load of crap. So far, you've dodge the question and produced a google search results for all sites/pages that contain Colin Powell My & Lai. BFD. How about producing a story from a mainstream source.

Failed to cover it up would be more accurate. The Pentagon's attempt failed. I never claimed it succeeded, that's you trying to muddy the waters. And still you've repeatedly dodged my requests to provide evidence that Colin Powell tried to cover up the massacre. SSDD It was sarcastic hyperbole, based on what was being incorrectly claimed by some GOP knotheads. Sorry you missed that. Narcimund provided 10 pages full of links. Get over yourself. One credible link. Just one. Here's a quote of your's from earlier today. Ironic, don't you think?

You started this thread with a griping whinging post with a misquote for its title. I've been using the First Lady as a basis of comparison for you and the other whingers and bellyachers on the right. Nice spin attempt though, now your misrepresentations about Pelosi have been exposed. Probably took in some impressionable people. Help. Help. I'm getting sooooo dizzy.

Failed to cover it up would be more accurate. The Pentagon's attempt failed. I never claimed it succeeded, that's you trying to muddy the waters. And still you've repeatedly dodged my requests to provide evidence that Colin Powell tried to cover up the massacre. SSDD It was sarcastic hyperbole, based on what was being incorrectly claimed by some GOP knotheads. Sorry you missed that.

You're a slippery one. Still waiting on a link showing how Colin Powell covered up the My Lai massacre.

So you haven't been making posts harping on the quality of air travel provided for the first lady? Really?

Well, I expect a lot of Brits were killed in traffic accidents in London that week too. Do you want to include those to make the US "friendly" fire numbers look even better? you're a slippery one. Or we could tweak it the other way and make this about the number on incidents of US on UK troops.... What's that? One? A miserable record indeed. As far as I'm concerned it was a tragedy that the US military should completely own up to. Trying to use it a single event to portray the US as having "a miserable record of killing their allies" is pretty low brow, as well as misleading.

The onus is on the person making the initial claim.

No. Absolutely not. I asked about his DIRECT involvement of the coverup of that specific incident? So far you've done a fine job of ducking the issue. What do you mean by "direct". Either he was involved or he wasn't. The evidence indicates very clearly that he was involved. Still waiting on a link that shows his involvement in covering up the My Lai Massacre. Absolutely not. I'm just exposing another of your bogus claims. 9/24 = 38% (rounded to nearest integer). Maybe you live in an alternate reality where arithmetic is different. Please tell me where the statement below excludes non-combat fatalities!

No. Absolutely not. I asked about his DIRECT involvement of the coverup of that specific incident? So far you've done a fine job of ducking the issue. Absolutely not. I'm just exposing another of your bogus claims.

No.

You have a very short memory. It has already been answered in this very thread. 24 British troops KIA, 9 by US forces. I'm just wondering why the other 23 soldiers who died in Gulf War I don't count as "British fatalities"? The "fact" you claimed was false. Being killed in a traffic accident in Kuwait is not KIA. 38% of the British KIA in GF1 were killed by US forces. Does THAT make you feel proud now? So those other 23 soldiers who died while serving in Iraq (or Kuwait) during the Gulf War I don't count as fatalities? ----------------------------------------------------------- I never said anything of the sort. This is another one of your implied LIES!!! ----------------------------------------------------------- What a load of crap. You provided a boatload of generic inform. How about providing a single link (preferably an actual quote), that directly addresses the claim you made?

Or it could be that Hoover fucked teh country so bad that even his own voted him out. Hoover fucked the country? Do you think he was responsible for the Great Depression? I would say he fucked the recovery from it, delaying it 10 years. The bonus army ring a bell? He was so unsympathetic he makes Bush look grand. It's scary what some people think. Hoover was the victim of horribly bad timing. No doubt he made some bad decisions in trying to remedy the situation, but I think the only people to claim "he fucked the country" are pretty narrow-minded or uninformed. BTW, I edited your post to what I thought you meant. I don't want you coming back in a week saying you meant -The bonus army right a bell?

Yeah, the Germans and the Japanese have been really suffering under the yoke of US imperialism for the last 60 years. Are there armed American troops keeping "order" on the street corners in Tokyo today? Berlin? There are in Baghdad. Please tell me the date on which American forces did not occupy German or Japanese soil? Or are you just trying to redirect the discussion because your previous claim is so flawed?

You didn't know? I'm surprised. Got link showing his direct involvement of covering up the My Lai massacre? . About 178,000 links here. Re-read my question and then try again. I said direct involvement, not any kind of loose relationship. I did a google for george washinton beat slaves and got over 1 million hits. I wonder how many of those links talk about him beating slaves??? Please provide solid concrete PROOF that Pelosi said "I want my jet". Funny how you excluded the second part of that quote. Dodgeball, baby. You're the best. The title of the Pelosi thread was hyperbole. sorry you missed it.