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What crime would that be? https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/security/reports/2017/12/07/443833/donald-trump-criminal-conspiracy-law/

^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS. I understand the point that jclalor is making. The problem is that in the context of US tribal, take no prisoner politics. Meaning and definition is out the door. Its like the Mueller investigation. Where Fox and friends is trying to discredit him now because the investigation is getting closer and closer to the president. The law frames the legal age of consent in Alabama at 16. Other states use 18 years. Typically courts use some leeway for consenting teenagers. Moore was 34 and a member of the bar. For the rest of my paragraph, argument and conclusion. I refer to the quote above. trump entered his Moore rally last night to the Greenwood tune singing "Proud to Be an American". Which for trump and Moore is as accurate an oxymoron. As defense of Moore's sexual propensities.

Leigh Corfman she met Moore in 1979 when she was just 14 years old. The then-district attorney offered to watch Corfman while her mother attended a custody hearing, she said, and he asked for her phone number when he was alone with her. Corfman said that days later, Moore drove her to his house and kissed her Wendy Miller...met Moore when she was 14 and working at Gadsden Mall Beverly Young Nelson...she had first met Moore at the restaurant she worked at when she was 15. She said he frequently complimented her appearance and signed her yearbook with the note: “To a sweeter, more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas. Love Roy Moore, D.A.” http://time.com/5029172/roy-moore-accusers/ it would be correct to say that the purported 1979 incident involving Corfman is the only thing in the Post story that amounts to a crime—two crimes, in fact, both of which, thanks to Alabama's sex offender rules, would continue to haunt and handicap Moore nearly four decades later if he had been convicted of them. Corfman says Moore drove her to his home, where he took off his clothes except for his underwear, kissed her, removed her pants and shirt, touched her over her bra and panties, and started guiding her hand toward his crotch. She objected and asked him to take her home, which he did. In a written statement quoted by the Post, Moore said "these allegations are completely false." But if they are true, Zeigler says, it would simply mean that "he went a little too far and he stopped." That is not the view taken by Alabama law, which sets the age of consent at 16 and defines Moore's alleged touching of Corfman as sexual abuse in the second degree, a Class A misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail. Furthermore, it is a Class C felony, punishable by one to 10 years in prison, "for any person with lascivious intent to entice, allure, persuade, or invite...any child under 16 years of age to enter any vehicle, room, house, office, or other place for the purpose of proposing to such child the performance of an act of sexual intercourse or an act which constitutes the offense of sodomy or for the purpose of proposing the fondling or feeling of the sexual or genital parts of such child or the breast of such child...or for the purpose of proposing that such child fondle or feel the sexual or genital parts of such person." http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/10/how-going-a-little-too-far-with-a-girl-a

It dosn't, relax. Happy shooting.

For pedophilic disorder to be diagnosed, the following criteria must be met: -Recurrent, intense sexual fantasies, urges or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child (generally age 13 years or younger) for a period of at least 6 months. -These sexual urges have been acted on or cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning. -The person is at least age 16 and at least 5 years older than the child in the first category. However, this does not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old. https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/pedophilia As far a Roy Moore, the above is met, met and met.

Barack Obama has warned of the fragility of American democracy, making reference to the rise of Nazi Germany in the 1930s. Speaking during a question and answer session at the Economic Club of Chicago on Tuesday, the former US president warned against growing nativism in America. “We have to tend to this garden of democracy or else things could fall apart quickly,” Mr Obama said. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/barack-obama-invokes-adolf-hitler-nazi-leader-democracy-a8096351.html The far-right fantasized about a gun battle with Antifa, but got another mass killer in Texas As America lurches from one crisis to another, the far right wants violence to be the new normal https://www.salon.com/2017/11/07/the-far-right-fantasized-about-a-gun-battle-with-antifa-but-got-another-mass-killer-in-texas_partner/ Perhaps trump is even more dangerous than anyone thought?

"And of course, reporters have access to only a subset of Trump’s false statements — the ones he makes publicly — so unless he never stretches the truth in private, his actual rate of lying is almost certainly higher.... That rate has been accelerating. Starting in early October, The Post’s tracking showed that Trump told a remarkable nine lies a day, outpacing even the biggest liars in our research. "

Donald Trump’s Approval Rating Hits New Record Low, Making Him the Most Unpopular President in Poll History "59 percent of Americans said collusion between Russia and the president's campaign ahead of the 2016 election "definitely or probably occurred." About 30 percent said "senior Trump officials definitely had improper contacts with Russia during the campaign."... In the decades since World War II, the average first-term president before Trump had an approval rating of 62 percent on his 175th day in office," the site wrote in July, when Trump's approval rating was 39 percent. http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-approval-rating-hits-new-record-low-making-him-most-unpopular-741916 Quinnipiac: Only 29% of Americans approve of GOP tax plan http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/05/politics/tax-plan-approval-quinnipiac-poll/index.html Obama Is Now More Popular Than Trump in Alabama, Fox News Poll Finds http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/fox-poll-obama-is-now-more-popular-than-trump-in-alabama.html

There's proof: electing women radically improves life for mothers and families https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/06/iceland-women-government-better-for-mothers-america-lessons

Former GOP chairman found guilty of fraud for signing ex-wife's ballot Former Colorado GOP Chairman Steve Curtis was found guilty of forgery and voter fraud on Thursday for signing his ex-wife's mail-in ballot for the 2016 general election, Denver's ABC affiliate reports. Curtis filled out and signed the ballot under his ex-wife's name. The forgery charge for signing the ballot carries a maximum three-year prison sentence, while the separate misdemeanor charge could carry an 18-month sentence and a possible $5,000 fine. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/363878-former-gop-chairman-found-guilty-of-fraud-for-signing-ex-wifes

House passes concealed carry gun bill http://thehill.com/homenews/house/363628-house-passes-concealed-carry-gun-bill Two months after the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history, the House on Wednesday passed legislation that would allow people to use permits for carrying concealed handguns across state lines... the bill passed along party lines, 231-198, due to Democratic opposition to the concealed-carry reciprocity measure

Viking has delivered about 75 new build twin otters since they started in 2007. They may have to sharpen their pencils on pricing once this new competitor comes on the market. If its in fact a competitor because of the STOL nature of the twin otter. The Cessna may have no effect on Viking AC buyers. The new Cessna has 350 more ponies a side and I haven't seen climb numbers published. But that's irrelevant until Fed-ex, and others, racks up the 15-19k hours. That most commercial operators would run until they sell them off to the used market.

What that poll shows and the ones that I quoted. Is that for Muslims and those who believe in another god. As education increases adherence to the Koran and the bible(or other similar treatise) decreases. As does the propensity to believe in a religion. In addition, adherence to "Sharia law" or an interpretation of Christian law, vr a secular view of the laws and norms of the resident country. Certainly they collectively show that for every poorly educated Christian who sends his donation off to a TV evangelist. There is a Muslim in Pakistan or Afghanistan, likely donating his last rupee to a Mullah.

The Republican tax plan is broadly unpopular in recent polls, with just 29% of U.S. adults saying they approved of it and 56% disapproving in a recent Gallup poll. That’s driven largely by Democrats and independents, who overwhelmingly disapprove, while Republicans approved of the bill by 70% in that same poll. http://time.com/5050258/donald-trump-republican-tax-plan-popular/ I a way it would be better for trump to get the bill passed. Its akin to the Jonestown, Guyana, Kool-aid. It brought everything to a end quickly. Like the followers of Jones, the tax bill will kill all those that drink of the alter of the large corporate cash cow. Come midterms and November 3, 2020.

I like Netanyahu and Israel. But what he and trump both understand is what buttons to push. Netanyahu and Israeli politics is all about appealing to a narrow base. Because there are so many parties in Israel and so many coalition governments. Thats the same reason why trump professes to be a Christian. He can identify that base and knows what buttons to push.His personal actions preclude him from being a Christian. Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/ Protestants are more likely than Muslims to think their religion should be the main source of law in America One of the most common accusations about Muslims from Islamophobes is that they want to institute Sharia, or Islamic law, here in America. But the overwhelming majority of American Muslims do not think Islam should be the main source of US law, and more than half (55 percent) said their religion should not be a source of American law at all. Meanwhile, it turns out that more Protestants (12 percent) actually believe their own religion should be the main source of American law than do Muslims (10 percent): https://www.vox.com/2016/3/17/11250800/american-muslims-poll

Ladies and gentlemen, make no mistake -- the entire world is being convulsed by a religious struggle. The fight is not about money or territory; it is not about poverty versus wealth; it is not about ancient customs versus modernity. No. The struggle is whether Hubal, the Moon God of Mecca, known as Allah, is supreme, or whether the Judeo-Christian Jehovah God of the Bible is Supreme. http://www.patrobertson.com/Speeches/IsraelLauder.asp Netanyahu: Evangelical Christians are Israel’s best friends “It’s a struggle of civilizations. It’s a struggle of free societies against the forces of militant Islam,” Netanyahu argued. “They want to conquer the Middle East, they want to destroy the State of Israel, and then they want to conquer the world.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-evangelical-christians-are-israels-best-friends/ "most American evangelicals have a simpler justification for their view: the Bible. “Israel and her right to the land is a key theme in the Hebrew Scripture,” said Darrell Bock, a senior research professor at Dallas Theological Seminary. “It is tied to divine promises many Christians believe are still in force.” A 2013 survey by Pew Research found that 82 percent of white evangelical Christians believe God gave Israel to the Jews. By contrast, only 40 percent of Jews in the United States believed that. In recent months, as Trump’s polling numbers have declined, white evangelical Christians, who make up about a quarter of the electorate, have become the only sizable segment of voters who continue to support him strongly. A Fox News poll in October showed 66 percent of white evangelicals supporting Trump. While that figure was down from 77 percent in September, it was still nearly 30 percentage points higher than the population as a whole. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/trump-jerusalem-evangelicals_us_5a284e66e4b03ece02ffcb15 Well at least Jared Kushner can clear his desk of his heavy schedule involving Middle east peace: Donald Trump Blows Up Jared Kushner’s “Ultimate Deal” A move to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is expected to set off riots across the Middle East—and threaten any momentum toward a two-state solution. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/donald-trump-jared-kushners-jerusalem-israel-palestine Now he can concentrate on his poor memory about Russian events: "A 'serious case of amnesia': House Intel Democrat says Trump Jr. was 'pretty non-responsive' in 8-hour interview... "My takeaway is he has a very serious case of amnesia," Rep. Jackie Speier told CNN on Wednesday just after the lengthy interview ended. "He was pretty non-responsive on a lot of issues that, frankly, you would have a recollection of, considering it was just a year ago that many of these events took place when Donald Trump was the candidate," Speier said. "He was by his father’s side; he was campaigning with his father. And you get the impression in listening to him that he didn’t spend much time talking to his father." Swalwell agreed with Speier's characterization of Trump Jr.'s testimony as evasive and somewhat unhelpful, and said the Democrats plan to present the Republicans with legal arguments for why attorney-client privilege "doesn't apply" just because — as Trump Jr. asserted — lawyers were present for the conversations in question. http://www.newstimes.com/technology/businessinsider/article/A-serious-case-of-amnesia-House-Intel-Democrat-12411733.php

Agree on a rant that lays out the talking and walking points for a populist political presentation. IMO trump won 1/2 of his vote because of the economic degradation of working class Americans since the last recession. Together with their job worries that technology and international trade bring to future job prospects. Democrats should target these disenfranchised, poorer-paid, under qualified workers. With specific training, tax, economic program policies that benefit these groups. In order to capitalize on unfulfilled trump promises in midterm elections.

But they would have to be directed to do that (even if it's clandestinely) by the president, and this egomanaical preschooler isn't about to do that because it would be a tacit admission that he isn't 'the best' (TM) and 'favorite not-Hillary' president ever. The longer this shit goes on and the more we see of it, the more I'm convinced that we're just fucked until the next election. There will always be a willing fall-guy who volunteers to take a bullet for whatever idiocy of the moment the president begins, and I'm still not convinced that a republican government would actually impeach Trump even if there was incontrovertible proof of the most heinous crimes. I suspect they'll all rally around the shitshow until 2020 when hopefully they desert him en mass and get behind either Romney or Comey. The current Russia sanctions bill was brought ahead by congress. After a substantial delay trump signed it. http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/02/politics/donald-trump-russia-sanctions-bill/index.html

I remember reading about that but only in recent years. A secret deal by a presidential candidate to screw the president and help get Nixon elected. Makes the discussions about the Logan Act this year seem pretty tame. (I have no idea whether the Paris Peace talks could actually have achieved anything in '68 instead of 5 years later in '73. The North might not have been ready for that.) Well I substantially don't disagree with the substance of and representations of the series. A person has to be VERY careful about accepting a narrative in a movie or a book as fact. Movies have a very persuasive presentation of a version of fact or history. That makes it easy to draw the conscious into acceptance. That whats presented is the way it happened. It failed to present enough of the hard line that Le Duan and Ho felt. A line that believed that persistence would pay off. That given Chinese and Russian weapons. Together with the children of the revolution. America would capitulate sooner or later. The S. Vietnamese puppets would fold thereafter. Just as the French had done before that. For The North, the French defeat at Dien Bien Phu forever ingrained the idea in the minds of northern leadership. That one big or a couple big defeats. Would drive any imperialist western power, home. Yes I saw the series. Yes I know the N. Vietnamese leadership wavered from time to time. But every time they needed supplies. They were resupplied. Never was there a substantial pause in sending well equipped formations to the southern battlefield. Even as the North was mined, pounded and the population suffered. Food, SAM's, AAA, poured down from the Chinese border and by sea. To resupply them. Many, many, in the North were like the North Vietnamese mother in the series. I forget which episode. Which gave, I think it was 8-10 of her children to die for the "revolution". Yet as she stated truthfully. She was happy to do so. As a little side-note. I have a small 2 square foot piece of a camo parachute used by the 173rd Airborne brigade in the Junction City jump. It was given to me by a member of the 173rd. But I don't know if he made the jump himself.

Pro: Pence actually has an education in the law, and experience as a governor. And he is not an insane moron. Con: Since he is not insane, he could probably actually get his right-wing agenda into law. Well we have to weigh the options: trump: -insane moron -insane moron who trades insults with another nuclear armed moron. -insults every ally that the US has. -befriends every enemy that the US has in order to get personal hotels built. .... OK..,..OK, debate moot.

It will result in the further dumbing down of America. "Canada's labour force is increasingly reliant on well-educated immigrants who are enjoying employment rates that are broadly in line with the national average. The latest findings of the 2016 census provide an in-depth look at the national labour market, offering valuable data for government decision makers as well as Canadians looking to match their skills with jobs that are in demand. It also shows that Canada has the highest proportion of college graduates among developed nations, partly because recent immigrants are especially well-educated. The percentage of all immigrants with a master's or doctorate degree is twice that of the Canadian-born population." https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/census-2016-education-labour-employment-mobility/article37122392/ College Students Set to Lose Several Big Tax Breaks Under GOP Tax Plan http://time.com/money/5007540/gop-tax-plan-tax-breaks-college-students/

I agree. If it hasn't happened yet, doing nothing will ensure it happens in the future. Distractions within the US political agenda have largely precluded a debate on how to respond to these attacks. Thats not to say that the intelligence community dosn't have a good grasp on whats going on. The Senate Intelligence committee needs to get past the presidential aspects of the election. Needs to direct responses targeting Putin and his inner circle. It should involve disclosing Putin led Russian corruption and the theft of state assets. To the Russian people. Now Putin controls the Russian media and the political discourse. But in the end only rising public anger by Russians. Will clip Putin's kleptocratic wings. End the pseudo nationalism, the pseudo imperialism that Putin uses to distract Russians. From the protections of Putin's inner circle of oligarchs by the state. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/panama-papers-money-hidden-offshore

Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), who for weeks has been the target of sexual misconduct allegations, announced on Tuesday that he will retire from the House... He said he was "retiring today." http://thehill.com/homenews/house/363282-conyers-announces-retirement-amid-sexual-misconduct-allegations Too bad it took so long for Nancy Pelosi to see the light.

'The RNC resumed supporting Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore' Well, we now know the true colors of the R's of this country; as if there was any real doubt. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/rnc-jumps-back-alabama-senate-race-after-trump-endorses-roy-n826496 Jerry Baumchen I'm a Republican and I'm still not voting for that tard. So you're the one!!! I've heard of you!! Kidding aside. I was very disappointed that John McCain voted for the tax bill. It has some good measures. But wealthy individuals came out of it like gangbusters.

I suspect the calculus is more along the lines of what kept Clinton in office. That WJC would play 'hide the salami' with any female that came within range was the worst kept secret in Little Rock or Washington. Clinton would appear to have had greater success in his extracurricular love life than did Moore, though his enthusiastic pursuit of sex reportedly reached a felonious level upon occasion. Among major flaws with which Moore has to work are that he has none of Clinton's charm and that he was (is?) attracted to pubescent females. Clinton used his position to have a rock star's love life. Where Paula Jones responded to Clinton's overtures with 'eeeew!,' most just said 'okay.' Moore, OTOH, developed a reputation for hanging around and flirting with underage girls. I suppose people who are attracted to youngsters assume that everyone is, but the fact that this is not the case may be what enables them in the first place. You have various priests who engage in things that simply would not occur to the the bulk of the flock, who thus don't pick up on it. The nature of politics is such that selecting a candidate is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. Some candidates' flaws are enough out of sight that their nature is akin to a coprolite, while others are reminiscent of ballistic diarrhea. I think Moore is closer to the latter category. While some dung is useful as fertilizer or fuel for fires, a piece of shit by any name is still a piece of shit. So it is with politicians. With Roy Moore, it is 'hold your nose and try not to gag when you vote.' Ah, the Miracle of Democracy at work! BSBD, Winsor Or the current state of US tribal politics. Which summarizes the reasoning of your thread. Of which. I more or less agree with.