SkyDekker

But why do you think that Obama is so against the thing he wrote so favorably and voted for? Probably just to piss you off.

I am still waiting for Rush to put some math next to his assertion.

I guess you missed that part where I said we will see. In this sentence: I thought the "we shall see" refers to the lack of people admitting they were wrong. Did you mean we shall see if he is really a traitor?

I am not. In military trails getting charged is the same as getting convicted?

Welcome back Mark

lol So when some one says: with: You didn't mean that the workers were cheaper, but you meant that the business taxation in other countries was more favourable. Which of course is not the same thing at all. So, why would you claim it was the same thing for your wife's company then? Unless of course you have absolutely no clue what "H-1B's" mean?

You seem to forget the step where he has to be convicted first. Getting charged doesn't make him a traitor just yet. More importantly, most people stated there just wasn't enough information out there, and certainly not enough clear information to determine if he was a traitor or deserter just yet. Hopefully the trial will rectify that.

Absolutely, but I wanted the comparisons between apples....or oranges. Rush I think is comparing apples to oranges and having an AHA moment realizing they are not the same.

Sure thing. You responded to this post (through a reply to a post that said "Ditto"): with: Even though your reply has absolutely nothing to do with H-1B visas, you are clearly implying that your wife's company is outsourcing because labour is cheaper.

Because you said it had to do with labour rates. Which is bullshit. Much more likely in the case of Rotterdam and Amsterdam that it has to do with favourable business taxation. Ironic.

Lets see what we have here. We have you, who "highly doubts it" And we have me, who has a close family member who works on the IT/supply chain side of customer service dealing with this issue. She frequently travels to these offices where they have outsourced CS to fix the issues that cant be done over phone or IP. There are also weekly night time phone calls to China to do the same. We were one of the ones "offered" to move to budapest for two years when they initially set up the last call center. My wife was fortunate enough to have some leverage in saying no due to the fact that they paid the $60k for her MBA, and they did not want to lose her. ***Funny how right wingers become socialists when it effects them directly. Funny how quick you are to dismiss things when running your mouth off about shit you don't know about. Labour in Rotterdam and Amsterdam is not cheaper than in the US. If you ahve a family member claiming that, your family member is wrong. Minimum wage is at least $2 more per hour. Budapest and China have nothing to do with Amsterdam and Rotterdam. The highly doubt part was sarcasm. I lived almost right between Amsterdam and Rotterdam for 24 years.

lol Think about it Oh Sorry........ I did, would like to see how your math works. You are the one making the claim. Show the wealth held by the top 20% wealthiest Americans then compare that to the wealth held by the middle 60% Americans. No You didnt You take all the money held by the 20% and what would you get One time? More than you would get if you took all the wealth held by the middle class....one time.

the peer reviewed Duke study has a bias? Yep I guess you are correct You may want to look up what the word "constantly" means.

lol Think about it Oh Sorry........ I did, would like to see how your math works. You are the one making the claim. Show the wealth held by the top 20% wealthiest Americans then compare that to the wealth held by the middle 60% Americans.

Right. And constantly posting links to sites with a clear bias is what the thinking man does?

lol

A site that recieves much disdain from nonthinkers Lol I know you don't agree with Billvon very much. But honestly, calling him a nonthinker says much more about you than it does about him. Wendy said it before. Just because people don't agree with you, doesn't make them sheep, or nonthinkers, or stupid, or brainwashed or any of those other terms you like to throw out. Funny enough, in many posts, that is exactly what you complain liberals do. (Guess now you will say how you are only doing it so liberals can get a taste of their own medicin in your mind lol)

I highly doubt people in Rotterdam and Amsterdam are cheaper. Plus finding cheaper labour is just the capitalist thing to do. Funny how right wingers become socialists when it effects them directly.

There is a big difference between a Hollywood movie and the actual man. Not liking the movie says nothing about the man. They are just completely seperate issues.

Would depend on the rationalization. If they refused ebcause they were unable to communicate safety regulations, precuations, expectations etc effectively I don't see that as discrimination. However if their reasoning was along the lines of, they look muslim, therefor I refuse....then it would be discrimination.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that those who have been there would have a completely different appreciation of the movie than I would.

Just as refusing to put certain words or make certain shapes such as a swastika could be viewed also as specific target discrimination. No. Only if such a refusal is reserved for certain groups.

It is not an attempted twist rush. He simply doesn't say that the word will reach a point of no return in 10 years, which was your claim. Words do indeed mean something. Can't believe I even have to add such a disclaimer: but, this doesn't mean I agree with his assertion.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2006-al-gore-does-sundance/ He doesn't say the world will reach a point of no return in 10 years. He says that unless we do something in the next 10 years, the world will reach a point of no return.

You don't want to mess with his myopic view of the world. Careful how you use that word....