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Is it worth five more minutes to be able to deliver a dvd with a DZ specific root menu and trailer video, still photos, credits, follow up contact and continuing training information, and pretty much anything else you might want to add? Going the NLE route you're pretty much unlimited in your capability.

Sabotage of the platform? Yea....kooks in boats is a possibility. Kooks in submersibles one mile below the surface is another story. I'm still wondering why there was no redundancy in the preventer...other than expense.

Nah, it was that mystery ship that was secretly sailing the seas carrying Saddam's WMD's.

http://www2.goldmansachs.com/services/advising/environmental-markets/business-initiatives/trading-and-cap-markets.html Just another way for the "big banking/money trading" companies to get rich/richer off the hard work of others. James True. And they'll probably find a way to screw us over again. My post was to counter the "absolutely no demand" assertion.

Nuclear electrical power would not exist were it not for government intervention so we can't use that for a comparison. I guess that leaves coal, which is cheaper for energy production but that's without considering the cost of CO2 release, poisonous airborne particulates, mercury flavored food supplies and the resultant stupid children. You get none of that when you're downwind of a wind or solar plant. Probably won't have the President eulogizing any of those employees either.

I get his point, but i wouldn't really say that it was well said.... I thought it was pretty good. Not as musical as this version but I thought he conveyed the sentiment well.

http://www2.goldmansachs.com/services/advising/environmental-markets/business-initiatives/trading-and-cap-markets.html

Virginia Presidential election turnout in 2008 was about 76%. Virginia Gubernatorial election turnout 2009 was about 38%.

Absolutely. Actually it would be much worse, especially for smokers (but not for long).

The group VIb lobby is more influential than the group IVb lobby. Also, since carbon tends to share its four electrons to form stable bonds, it's obviously socialist and something to be avoided in this political climate. Sulfur tends to gain electrons, becoming doubly negatively charged in its efforts towards stability.....not unlike Beck. Don't believe me? Just look at the periodic table. Sulfur is to the right of carbon. However many in the mainstream media will prefer to state that carbon is far left of sulfur when in actuality carbon is still quite obviously right of center.

Typically after overextending itself militarily. indeed, though a transition away from this may be disruptive to all the nations that freeloaded off of that for the past 6 decades. Including ours. I mean in what other country can you make $900,000 from selling two metal washers?

Typically after overextending itself militarily.

Probably. But now we have a chance to change our future instead of wallow in our failed past.

Do you think that our government should have done nothing? Do you disagree with all of the bailouts or only some? If you're a pure capitalist then I applaud your conviction, however you have to recognize the consequences of a failed system. I don't know many, actually any people who would be willing to let the US economy collapse because "hey, win some, lose some". Our economy was on the verge of collapse, and dragging down other world economies, and it had little to do with any tangible product. What our economy has been "producing" is "money" out of thin air via very creative financial instruments based on purchased credit ratings and heavy leveraging. I heard it referred to as our "casino economy" the other day and I thought that summed it up pretty well. I WISH we were primarily a production based economy. Pursuing that end through green energy initiatives has promise however it is not something that's going to happen overnight. You can make a trillion dollars in the casino economy overnight but it's unsustainable. Building a sustainable system is going to take time. People complain about how slowly the recovery is going but my take is that the only way we'd recover any faster is to revert to the old ways that got us into trouble in the first place.

I agree. But I do have an idea as to how pissed off they would be at the government for allowing it to happen. The loudest critics of the bailout would be the loudest critics of the government's failure to contain the collapse.

And we are recovering nicely from a near complete economic collapse/borderline depression and our banking and auto industries and the millions of jobs that depend on them are for the most part still intact. Admittedly it's very easy to tally up what we have spent but it's very difficult to quantify what we have saved. In a purely capitalist system the United States would be in complete financial and economic ruin. And yes, absolutely, the debt we have now completely sucks. But when you look at the alternative it's pretty obvious that it could have been a whole lot worse. And until we're honest with ourselves as to how we got into this situation we're destined for a repeat performance, or worse.

They probably put their money on Apple (AAPL) or Netflix (NFLX). Each are up about 300% since Jan 2009.

John of course it does to you because of your simple belief that they didn't EARN it Did the folks running Washington Mutual EARN their money? http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/04/senate_investigation_fraud_pai.html

You forgot that the money that was made out of thin air was seeded by the government at a zero interest rate.

Remind me again - how much tax money are we getting from those companies that bailed out of the country when the burden got too steep? What is 'welfare' BUT a 'trickle-down' from Fed.gov? Depends on how you look at it. When you work for a company as a lobbyist, write legislation regulating your business so the legislators don't have to be bothered and then reap the Treasury benefits, I'd say it's not so much "trickle down" as it is "throw up". But yes, money from the taxpayer is welfare, regardless of who gets it. But to address my earlier point more directly, "trickle down" doesn't work. It was a nice theory but it didn't factor in greed. Even Greenspan addressed it a year or so ago when he said he never imagined that CEO's would put their personal benefit over the health of the company. 25 years ago the average CEO compensation was ~40 times that of the average worker. Now it's closer to 350 times the average worker. Very little is trickling down. Now, to maintain a middle class lifestyle pretty much every family has to have a dual income. The wealthiest 1% owns 40% of the nations wealth. If the trend continues as it has for the last couple of decades then the top 1% will likely have to pay all of the taxes because the rest of us can't afford to.

Ron Paul admits that the bottom 40% own only 0.2% of the wealth, and says it IS a problem. Thanks for the reinforcement of the point in my quote. The same is true for robbing Peter to pay Paul International Inc. The only difference however between Paul and Paul International Inc. is that PII has much more "free speech" and therefore "access" to those who amend the tax code and legislate. I know that the theory is that it's supposed to "trickle down" and that all of society eventually benefits. This experiment over the last quarter of a century, and our recent near (global) depression is proof that the model is severely flawed.

And carbon credit trading is estimated to be a several TRILLION dollar market - follow the money. Goldman Sachs is already on board. People will probably make a crapload of money trading credits in the new market. However that doesn't detract from the fact that Koch is astro-turfing the climate "science" debate for his own personal gain.

I didn't know Atlas could play the banjo. Cool, might make for a funny looking statue though.

The money coming from Exxon to fund the denier commentary pales in comparison to that of David Koch. I think he's up to about $50 million so far.

Hey Mike, do you have a link to some ritual that can exorcise that song out of my head?!?!?!?