Stumpy

As mentioned before, Trump has previousy stated under oath that he does not read the particulars of documents and contracts he signs. He has people for that. Great people. The best people! The documents they prepare are the most trustworthy. Everyone says so. And he has also said that you should never hire people smarter than yourself. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/04/21/life-lessons-with-donald-never-hire-people-who-are-smarter-than-you-n2151620 In his case, that's setting a low bar. Never try to eat more than you can lift

The nice thing about science, is it doesn't give a shit whether you believe in it or not. Never try to eat more than you can lift

Oh yeah - sorry, I meant he's the first US president to be a global laughing stock. Berlusconi was/is pretty funny. Never try to eat more than you can lift

Don't misunderestimate the idiosyncrasies of old GW. Yeah - GW was kinda funny - but vice president trump takes it to a whole new level. Never try to eat more than you can lift

I don't know about asshole, but he's the first one that I know of who is a global laughing stock. Never try to eat more than you can lift

This goes for pretty much every single thing he has said and done in the last 2 weeks. Never try to eat more than you can lift

See - you keep saying this, but it's just an emotive "truthy" statement, used as a strawman to go after the whole shooting match. As a previous poster said, the actual numbers are vanishingly small. Never try to eat more than you can lift

I think you are right. Unfortunately, I fear it is not the middle ground people that will be trying to pass legislation on this. As already demonstrated, its going to be a bunch of ultraconservative, ignorant of science, old white men. Never try to eat more than you can lift

I did. What a moron. Never try to eat more than you can lift

I suppose its a mercy that it's higher education he's looking at. By that sort of age, the religion thing is more or less established one way or the other, and I suspect universities won't take much shit from someone wanting to push ID, or whatever other cult nonsense. Never try to eat more than you can lift

This behaviour led people to vote for trump Never try to eat more than you can lift

"We got rid of all the dead wood, losers, low energy and untalented people, and are committed to making government smaller" Something like that I suspect Never try to eat more than you can lift

It seems to me you are the first person to have entirely missed the point. Never try to eat more than you can lift

I think a point you are missing is that this thread started with an observation that technology is replacing humans at an extraordinary rate in an extremely wide range of jobs. Already we see that factories can operate with one person doing the work (in terms of production) that required 50 or more people back in the 1960s. A small fraction of the workforce that used to be employed in agriculture works in that field (so to speak) today, yet food production is greater than ever, because of mechanization. Now we see a big push for self-driving vehicles, financed by companies such as Uber and Google (amongst others). Why would such businesses be investing in this field? In the case of Uber it is because they visualize a not very distant future when they will not have to pay any human drivers. If things continue on their current track, within our lifetimes there will be no jobs driving vehicles of any kind, be it taxis, delivery/courier, long distance trucking, up to an likely including aircraft pilots. Even many jobs in highly skilled fields such as medicine will be filled by computers, with humans reduced to tasks that require manual dexterity such as giving injections. We are not talking about lazy people who do not want to work. We are talking about a rapidly approaching future where humans are not cost effective, where it will be cheaper for industry to use robots and computers in almost every area. In the past we could say that technology created new and better jobs faster than it destroyed old ones, but that was before modern computers. We didn't need many blacksmiths after cars replaced horses, but we needed a lot of mechanics. Things are not going in that direction any longer. It is estimated that there are 3.5 million commercial truck drivers in the US today (source); there may be almost none in 30 years. What can possibly replace 3.5 million jobs, especially considering that the replacements should provide as good a living and will have to be something that cannot itself be immediately replaced by machines? What do you think society should do in an environment where there are almost no jobs for people? It seems to me that the owners of the businesses that choose to displace workers with robots do so because the robots are more profitable. In other words, those owners will get richer and richer while many people will lose their income altogether. Shouldn't the people who are profiting from displacing human workers bear some (or even most) of the cost of dealing with the problem? What is your preferred solution? Don Spot on. This future is coming much faster than most realise. Its surprised me, and I have spent a good proportion of my adult life working with some of the companies doing these amazing things with tech. The one that has blown me away is the self driving cars. Tesla has real data showing that cars with the self drive stuff installed are 40% less likely to crash than those without. And that is ONLY going to get better as the sample sizes and therefore the amount of data gets bigger. At the moment you still can't fully let the car autopilot you unsupervised from A to B, but that's only a matter of time. Never try to eat more than you can lift

$10 on never? Never try to eat more than you can lift

Thanks all - some interesting points. I think the difficulty is that its currently difficult to think outside of our own frame of reference (i.e. the world around us). Agree - except I'd suggest "Basic" is quickly becoming "All" Never is a big word - the US isn't THAT different to everywhere else and the same pressures exist. In fact in some ways the US is already suffering more than most. Valid point, but I think this kind of repression of technology almost never works, if ever. If you do this, you simply get out competed locally or globally by someone who doesn't - and the jobs go anyway. Can't disagree with anything you said, apart from I think this number is probably closer to 99%. The only sorts of jobs that I think will stay are all in the "empathetic/personality" line - carers, that sort of thing, and I am sure that is only a matter of time as well. Why the hell not? I thought you were smart! Agree I might be getting a bit dystopian but I think the critical change that automation makes isn't so much that it gets rid of jobs - it is more that in the long run the cost of most things drops essentially to zero due to the fact that the only input to the system is raw materials, which can be mined/produced by machines, maintained by other machines where the payback period on them is so long that the incremental cost is very low. No-one is really paying anyone for anything so the picture moves from a universal basic income, to not really needing an income at all. It's great to get peoples viewpoints on this - thanks for the posts. Never try to eat more than you can lift

I've been mulling this for a while now and curious to know what people think. We are coming to a point technologically where the simple fact is, that there are not going to be enough jobs for everyone, ever again. Automation, AI, Machine Learning and a host of other things are conspiring to make it so that humans are literally being replaced. It is not just in manufacturing and transport, but also Law, Healthcare, IT - pretty much any industry you can think of is threatened to a greater or lesser extent. This means the paradigm has to change. As a sci fi nut I love the Hamilton commonweath novels - the idea of universal basic income is an intriguing one - the state provides for your basic needs - those who want to sit on their backsides and do nothing can do (in some semblance of comfort and dignity), those who are entrepreneurial and want to better themselves can do. What are people's thoughts?? There are a few countries looking at trying this - notably Scotland - and it could be a game changer. Remember - those jobs are NOT coming back, regardless of what the Chief cheetoh or whichever politician you prefer says. Never try to eat more than you can lift

Nice. (But I had to fix the file extension) Never try to eat more than you can lift

I kinda like the idea of sous vide and its "foolproofness" but also feel it kinda takes the soul and the fun out of cooking. Never try to eat more than you can lift

FIFY Never try to eat more than you can lift

And quite right too. All that untouched and unused outdoor space is such a waste! Never try to eat more than you can lift

Thus spake the Once-ler Never try to eat more than you can lift

Good. The police shouldn't be videoing law abiding citizens exercising their Constitutional rights. That smacks of intimidation and is inappropriate. You guys amaze me. Seriously. You wanted body cameras on all police then you only want them turned on at times when it suits your needs. Next you'll be having kittens because somebody forgot to turn on their camera. In my mind the camera is there to protect the police from bullshit claims of police brutality and to make sure the LEO isn't out of line. It's a win/win. We live in a country that is loaded with surveillance equipment. Is that impinging on your rights as well? I'm with you on this one. Having to turn them on and off means they would be worthless. Never try to eat more than you can lift

Then that fucking cocksucker should've been killed already. I'm so sick of this world and it's bullshit rationalizations. . . I'm genuinely concerned you need to seek some help. Never try to eat more than you can lift

http://cnn.com.de/news/police-officer-saves-dolphin-mascot-imaginary-fire/ Edit - my bad - should have checked the URL a bit closer but still, what an awesome headline Never try to eat more than you can lift