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The only other thing I can think of is A/V>DV OUT. Set the mode selector to VCR. Touch FN. Touch menu (make sure you are on page one at the top). Arrow down to VCR SET and press EXEC. Arrow down to A/V>DV OUT. I leave my set to Off. Other than that it may have to do with software settings. Seems I have had this happen a time or two but not sure what caused it. I will try to recreate the problem.

It mainly depends on what control, if any, you have of the canopy and if it's spinning. Since I have about 7 tree landings under rounds I would prefer a tree landing. You may not even get to the ground if you land in trees. A spinning mal into the trees could be as bad or worse than hitting the ground. Peas can make for a hard landing also depending on the mal. You can drown if the pond is deep enough or too big to get to shallow water.

I use Studio 8 by Pinnacle so after you render your movie and want to put it back on the tape you took it off of click settings in the make movie window, it's under the circle that shows your disk space, then in the lower left check the box that says " automatically start and stop recording". It should put the video on the tape in your camera. Remember to uncheck it or it will only record to your camera tape and not to your vcr.

Anyone know of something like Garage Band for a Windows system?

My first canopy was an eliptical, an Omega 190. I was only loading it 1.1:1. It's a 7 cell so it's pretty forgiving and docile. It's the only one I would suggest to a jumper with low number of jumps.

I selected safety and training. But more specific the attitude of the dz and jumpers towards safety. Safety is my number one concern when checking out a new dz. I went to one dz when I was got started back into jumping and saw a board for a betting pool as to when a certain jumper was going to have another cutaway. I later found out other things in the way of safety that were out of hand so I went else where to start my return to skydiving.

Ok, how about just a hard opening?

I use Studio 8 and haven't had any problems like those. You might try searching for video editing sites other than Pinnacles. I also have an nvidia card. It's not G force though.

Wouldn't sitting up on opening during a VERY hard opening increase the chance of compression fractures of the vertebrate?? Very hard openings can cause injury no matter what you do. All these suggestions will help minimize them.

Hello Kris. I'm glad to see you and a couple of others who have either jumped at Cushing, or JMed there, reply. I didn't post this to run down Mike's DZ but to inform other jumpers, mainly new jumpers, about what happens when you have an inflight emergency. Also to clear up any misinformation the news people printed. I can understand the JM not talking for legal reasons but would really like to hear his side of the story. I started back jumping at Cushing after a 23 yr lay-off. Mike had a top notch DZ even if he only had C182s. I went thru the BIC to become a JM but decided to fly the camera instead. Thanks to you and everyone else for setting things striaght. It seems news people can't get it right even when they talk to the right people.

It's not just a skydive. It's a skydive with an innocent passenger along for the first jump thrill. When my step son, who I think of as a son, did his tandem, which I videoed, I wouldn't have wanted the tandem master to have any unnessary snag points. But if some one who is close to you does a tandem and it wouldn't bother you for the tandem master to have a handycam along then that's your choice. I'm not trying to educate you or anyone else, just stating my opinion. I would like, at all, reading of a fatility where two people were killed by a hang up on a handycam. Pure and simple. No need to compare me to your local whuffos. I've always been concerned about other peoples lifes, even if I don't know them, or if they are whuffos.

182 Fatal crash - OK 6/22/03 PRESS clippings Check out the origanal post. There were 5 jumpers and the pilot. One had already been put out, one was sucked out the door, then the jump master went out. That left the father and daughter, who went down with the plane along with the pilot. The pilot didn't make it. The father and daughter were injured. I use to jump at this drop zone a few years back and wondered myself if 6 people should have been on the plane. Jake Stieber, Tim Coble, Glenn Miller and Shelly York were the students, Tony Hayes was the jump master and Stephen Hill was the pilot. Edit: Coble was put out, then Hays jumped and Stieber was sucked out. The jump master went out before the rest of the students.

I didn't say it is right! I said it won't make a difference to email the government! geez.

I'm a civilian not a soldier.

Here is the whole article. Crash survivors recall skydiving trip 2004-02-15 By Michael Baker Staff Writer The plane's engine sputtered to a stall. The plane spun violently and started to plunge June 21 near Cushing. • Survivors, pilot's family might sue Video The wind tore Jake Stieber from the aircraft. In a free fall from half a mile above the ground, his parachute automatically opened. Stieber pried open his eyes. "I could see the plane. I could see trees underneath. I watched the plane crash. I honestly figured they were all dead," Stieber said. Inside the plummeting plane, Glenn Miller scrambled for his daughter. They locked eyes. Miller's daughter, Shelly York, was frozen with terror. The color drained from her face. How it happened 1. About 4 p.m., the group posed for a picture before boarding a Cessna 182 Skylane piloted by Stephen A. Hill at Cushing Regional Airport to go skydiving. 2. The plane circled the airport several times before climbing to 3,500 feet. Coble jumped first, and his parachute safely deployed. 3. The plane banked violently to the left side. Witnesses on the ground told the NTSB the plane went slightly "upward then out of control in a counter-clockwise spin." The engine sputtered before cutting out. The pilot yelled for everyone to exit the plane. Jumpmaster Tony Hays was the next out. 4. While the plane was spinning, Jake Stieber was thrown toward the plane door and sucked out. He hit his head on the side of the plane but made it out, and his parachute deployed safely. As the plane continued to descend sharply, one witness told the NTSB the engines revved back up at about 300-400 feet. But the plane continued in what the NTSB called a flat spin before crashing in some trees. 5. The crash killed pilot Stephen A. Hill and seriously injured would-be skydivers Glenn Miller and Shelly York. "I went to grab my daughter," Miller said. "She couldn't move. Wouldn't move ... I believe you could have heard a pin drop." Miller, Stieber and other witnesses of the crash -- which left one person dead and two skydivers seriously injured -- recently spoke with The Oklahoman and KWTV NEWS 9. Their accounts detail what happened. It was a Saturday, and clouds dotted the sky. York, 30, had asked her father to join her on a skydiving adventure. The first-timers were thrilled to head to the Oklahoma Skydiving Center at Cushing Regional Airport. Bob Stieber and his son, Jake, also headed to Cushing. The trip was an early birthday present for Jake. "I'd wanted to do it for a long time," 21-year-old Jake Stieber said. "I didn't know if I'd have the guts to do it." Miller, York and the Stiebers bonded during a day of skydiving classes. About 4 p.m., the time came to jump. Fearful flight Jake Stieber, Tim Coble, Miller and York posed for a photo, then boarded a 1965 Cessna 182 Skylane, which Stephen A. Hill piloted. Jumpmaster Tony Hays joined them, Miller and others said. Hays could not be reached for comment. Because the plane was too small for everyone, the Stiebers split up. Jake went first and Bob waited for the next run. Once airborne, the plane circled before climbing to about 3,500 feet. The 36-year-old Coble jumped first. His parachute opened and he drifted toward the ground. "I remember talking with Shelly about how he looked like he was having a good time," Jake Stieber said. Stieber was next and shifted into position by the door. Then things went bad. The plane banked violently to the port side. The left wing's tip pointed down. The engine cut out. As Coble glided down, he looked left. The plane was at eye level. "It was right beside me," Coble said, remembering how the plane's nose pointed down at a 45-degree angle. The aircraft started a flat spin and spiraled downward like a corkscrew. Inside the plane, an alarm rang. The word "stall" sounded from the cockpit. Pilot Hill shouted: "Everyone exit the plane!" The jumpmaster looked at the first-time skydivers and said an emergency was occurring. Moments later, he was out of the plane and heading toward safety. "It was just pure fear," Stieber said. "I had no idea what to do after that." The plane spun counter- clockwise. Jake Stieber reached for York. Miller also reached for his daughter. The two men started crawling along the floor. Their legs entangled each other. Miller lunged toward his daughter, bumping Stieber out of the way. Stieber was thrown toward the door. The wind sucked him out. His head clipped the side of the plane. A safety mechanism deployed his parachute at about 1,100 feet. He opened his eyes and watched the plane fall. He fiercely pulled on both parachute guide chords to slow down. Stieber curled his legs and braced for impact. He survived with scrapes, cuts, bumps and bruises. Inside the falling aircraft, Miller tried to get his daughter out of the plane as the engine revved and it disappeared behind trees. Miller remembers thinking that maybe everything would be OK. "Then I remember waking up outside on the ground with paramedics standing over me," Miller said. Miller and his daughter never got out of the plane. Plane, lives mangled Bob Stieber, 49, watched the ordeal from the ground. He didn't know if his son was one of the jumpers. "I figured everybody that was still on the plane was dead." Bob Stieber jumped into a truck and headed toward the wreckage, relieved when he spotted his son running toward the crash scene. The mangled wreckage showed the plane was falling relatively flat when it hit the ground, according to a National Transportation Safety Board preliminary report. The fuselage was crushed downward and the wings had twisted from the plane. Hill, an Oklahoma native and owner of a California music studio, was dead. He left behind a wife and an 11- month-old son. In the following weeks, friends described Hill as a safety-conscious pilot. He had moved to Oklahoma for the summer to log flight hours in an attempt to become a full- time pilot and spend more time with his son. "Our hearts go out to the pilot's family," Bob Stieber said. Miller, 60, fractured a bone in his back, had some broken ribs and broke his hip. He needed a metal plate in his forehead and right ankle, along with two 8-inch metal rods in his back. He spent five weeks in the hospital. "I am blessed," York said, remembering what she thought when she woke from a three-week coma. "I don't remember anything from the crash. My last memory is getting on the plane." York was released from the hospital after two months. Scars cover parts of her body. She will need several reconstructive operations for her face. York suffered brain damage and lost sight in her right eye. Her sense of smell is gone. The damage has caused parts of her personality to change, such as her sense of humor. York, a single mother, is slowly becoming reacquainted with her two sons, Beau, 4, and J.D., 6, and her 8-year-old daughter, April. The recent interview was the first time Miller and York had seen the Stiebers since the crash. Coble did not attend the reunion, but talked to The Oklahoman by phone. "I'm just glad we're all sitting here right now," Bob Stieber said. The reunion, punctuated by hugs and teary eyes, prompted Bob Stieber to make a prediction: "Something better was planned for them. That's why they got out of that plane alive."

The icendent has been posted on here back when it happened. There were 5 jumpers on a wide body Cessna with droop tips. They put one jumper out (all were S/L) and were rearangeing when the plane went out of control. No one hit the plane. It is believed a stall caused the plane to lose control. I will try to post both articles.

Your pissing in the wind dude. It's all for the safety of the President and you or anyone else won't even make a difference with the emails. I work for the Feds in the DoD and the safety of the Prez comes first.

The news paper article quoted the people who were on the plane when it crashed. From the article I gather the jump master was at the door and did a diving exit. But before he jumped he took the time to announce there was an emergency, for everyone to exit, then jumped. According to the people on the plane he didn't try to help anyone.

I'm with you Chris on this. The jumpers make up their own mind whether to jump or not and should check the spot before doing so. The pilot just gets us there.

Some of you may rememeber the crash of the C182 last summer in Cushing Oklahoma where the pilot was killed and two first time jumpers were seriously injured. This article was in the Oklahoma City news paper this weekend and I was wondering if the jump master abandoned his students as claimed. "The two groups claim instructors and jumpmasters at the Oklahoma Skydiving Center never prepared them for a flight emergency. The survivors also claim jumpmaster Tony Hays abandoned his charges once the plane went into a flat spin at about 3,500 feet June 21. "It was gutless," said Bob Stieber, who watched from the ground as his son, Jake, escaped serious injury and possibly death when he parachuted from the plummeting plane. "His instructor was the first one to jump out of the plane," Bob Stieber said. "When it came right down to it, they didn't care about anybody. Pilot Hill shouted: "Everyone exit the plane!" "The jumpmaster looked at the first-time skydivers and said an emergency was occurring. Moments later, he was out of the plane and heading toward safety. " I'm not a jump master but thought they are suspose to get the studenys out before leaving themselves.

I have read the post in S&T and made a reply but won't repeat it here. I fly a camera but wouldn't care less if the ahndycam takes over. The only thing that really has me on edge is when the first fatality happens because of the handycam. Is it really worth the extra risk just because someone wants a video the day a camera flyer is there? (reschedule them) Is it worth it just for the extra bucks? Is it worth it to charge 10 or 20 dollars less? Is it worth it for the one or two cool frames verses a whole jump taken by a camera flyer? If the deaths of two people can be avoided shoulded we leave the videoing to the camera flyers?

If all tandem masters shouldn't do it and it isn't comparable to what a camera flyer takes then why take the added risk? I take tandem and aff video and from what I have observed on tandem jumps, the tandem master wouldn't get very much video at all when a camera will get the whole jump. Is it really worth the extra money to take the added risk??

13 way, and was MORE than enough people in the air at the same time for me.

Did the Dr.s tell you which way your disk were bulging? The 4 that showed up in my MRI were bulging out the left side and so far I haven't had any pain or numbness in either arm. It's really weird but most of my pain is on the right side and the bulges are on the left?!? Go figure. Any way I plan to keep on jumping with my sniveling Omega but cutting way back on the number of jumps I make in a weekend. Everyone has given me loads of info to check into. I should be starting traction at home with one of those over the door type. If I come up with any new information that may help all of you I will pass it on.

I don't know the differences between the 105 and 101 that I have but I sure love my 101. Had it over a year and not one single problem and all great video.