dorbie

I suppose you could call it meta-bigotry.

Slam a conservative and it is funny. Slam a liberal and the rath and name calling begin. Your title is as was perdicted..........and only the beginning I think Try making some sense dude. It may have escaped your attention but I'm not into slamming conservatives. Make some sense and make a point you can stake a claim to instead of talking in riddles. If someone goes around acting like a bogoted tool don't be too surprised if they're called a bigoted tool.

I never see anything from fox either... Unless its on Stewart or Colbert! This one may have been on Comedy Central.

That is the most idiotic thing I've seen in a long time. By this metric Stalinist Russia would win hands down. If we were ALL starving & living in caves that metric could score us quite well provided we had the same pittance of an income.

eh... You realize this is a couple weeks old already... and hasnt made any serious ripples... I heard a while ago now, but I never saw that Fox clip.

I don't think so, not on the left. It's telling that the right is speculating they'll have a problem with a Mormon, or at least the media is speculating that the right will have a problem, I'm not sure how real this is. I think that Fox quote is pretty real though.

Watch this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nw6LBbeXTww&mode=related&search= It tells a story. P.S. this may be a clip of a clip shown in Comedy Central, so I guess the audio could be doctored but it sounds genuine. Did anyone see the original?

"Initial tests of the mouse xylophone were messy."

The fact is you're allowed to stroll onto the aircraft with a jumpable sport rig now. I've done it most travelling skydivers have too. Getting away alive doesn't seem to be much of an issue for the current threat we're most concerned about. Once you're in the cockpit the "system" has failed is a serious way. Having SEAL teams brainstorm a problem is a lot different from airlines or government hollow men doing something about it.

A pilot is more responsive than a triathlon so downsizing to a smaller triathlon than your pilot seems like a real mixed bag, and your wing loading is getting excessive. If it was the same size canopy I'd say your instructor was trying to keep you safe by moving you off that Pilot, but that Triathlon is too small. At 25 jumps you've not spent much time working on your canopy skills, you need to accept this, absorb this and believe it. Going from a pilot to a smaller triathlon, well it just seems like a dumb canopy choice in too many ways, not just the wing loading number, which you're right to question. Don't downsize.

P.S. you should be wearing gloves, otherwise you may discover the amazing flesh burning/cutting powers of your lines.

Yup canopy airspeed while kiting is affected by the load on the wing. From a loaded wing yank your rear risers or haul in your brakes while moving backwards (if you use brakes keep hauling them in, if you use rears grab the lines as far above the risers as you can). The wing has momentum it will not instantly react but it will be fast.. If it's windy you have to collapse AND move back and commit or you'll be dragged, and you have to complete both, it's no use pussying around on your brakes you'll wind up on your ass getting taken for a ride. Collapsing one side or trying to turn the wing can be very bad, your canopy can spin and leave you in a strong wind with riser twists or slam the open cells into the ground and blow open your cells destroying the wing. Even if it works you still need to haul in your trailing edge somehow or you'll still be on your ass ground-surfing behind the sail you just made. You can try to bring the canopy down to your side and get behind it (some people call this a cobra or reverse cobra). Basically using your brakes you fly your canopy still pointed into the wind down to your side as you transfer your weight in the opposite direction to load it from the side instead of vertically, it is still flying into the wind. You should be able to touch the ground and start to collapse the lower cells, then you can move quickly round behind the fabric to collapse it. The other approach is to kite with a friend, they can take your brakes and collapse for you or get behind the wing and grab the trailing edge & generally deforming the wing. It's best to avoid strong gusty wind, even when experienced. Wind has a speed gradient so you're often raising your wing into even stronger wind 20ft above the ground.

You could give him credit for insisting on the 6-party talks. That's about the only hopeful difference between this and previous deals and he got slammed by Kerrey & Co. for it, now you're sneering. Did you actually take notice of what China said about NK last week? That was not unrelated.

You have a point, anyone who has paid the slightest attention to the NK issue knows that similar deals have been done in the past and had no effect, in fact NK engaged in the enrichment of weapons grade ore despite these deals as the State Department ignored repeated evidence of breaches. When they finally couldn't ignore the breaches (NK announced they had been making nukes all along in an act of foolish brinkmanship) everyone blamed the current administration for "getting tough". It's quite frustrating to witness the partizan idiots on the NK issue, who ignore the mismanaged history of broken deals and insist on wishful thinking as the primary solution to an uncomfortable dilema. Let's face it though, it's not as if anything else is going to get done on the NK issue with the perpetual snowstorm of bullshit everyone is fed on this, and a congress full of 2 faced losers waiting to exploit any move regardless of what it is, and damn the consequences. They might as well do the deal, I don't see much downside.

Here's the version that ran in the UK: http://www.break.com/index/skydiver_survives_5000_foot_freefall.html

Now there's an example of projection if ever I saw one.

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What's that flushing sound? Oh it's the original thread, thanks for another fine contribution.

Good for them, when I was a kid I used to bunny hop downhill with my parka over my head on windy days, does that count?

www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2297674#2297674 You didn't seem to mind cover ups last year. Different ox being gored, I suppose. ALL cover ups are bad. I recall there was once a massacre at a place called My Lai; that cover up was attempted (unsuccessfully) by one Major Colin Powell. He got a lot of promotions anyway. I did not approve of cover-ups then nor do I now, your insipid post asking "do you approve of cover-ups?" was directed at another poster not me. My response was to highlight the nature of your question with the apocryphal equivalent "Have you stopped beating your wife?" (an error actually since it should begin "When did you..."). It's a pitty that when your research didn't confirm your memory, you posted anyway. You could have made an on topic post instead of a vapid attack, it was your choice.

I don't see the point of disputing this without a shred of evidence to the contrary. Available sources suggest this is the Scimitar and this is the pilot, and it's not just The Sun who says it (p.s. even the live-leak version has The SUN logo on it, they were first and widley credited with breaking this AFAIK). Your only point seems to be that the damage should look worse! Well guys in those vehicles survived and got out then it burned for hours. The next day they were still too hot to remove Hull's remains. Just what exactly is your point? You come across like a lawyer in an O. J. Simpson hearing. The Chewbacca defense is not relevant here, or as the Chinese might say; "When the finger points at the moon the fool points at the finger." How about addressing the lying and cover-up regarding their inquiry findings by those outstanding Americans in the Pentagon?

Let's remember that if it wasn't for The SUN the guncam footage would still be classified, as would the disgraceful Pentagon cover-up regarding an internal inquiry where the investigating General recommended disciplining the pilots for failing to follow procedures.

I noted the F-117, "Skeeter" was an F-117A test pilot in the 1980s. Several major media outlets are using the image in the UK, it's him. As for the destroyed Scimitars, fire did most of the damage with fuel and ammo being ignited immediately, if you read the detailed incident reports. Hull was burned to crisp inside that before he could be rescued. The source of that image had pictures of both Scimitars, both in desert camo with similar damage. If the damage had been greater as you assume it should, it is likely that nobody would have been left alive. There aren't that many pairs of destroyed Scimitars in desert camo lying around, and frankly I don't see the point of impugning any of this without an iota of contrary information.

P.S. The more I hear some conceited arrogant Yank say that, the less I'm inclined to. That probably goes for a lot of Brits.