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Bruce wrote***I was tempted to mention Orange1 specifically, but everytime I thought of her I remembered her comments about my encounters with Tina. The image-slash-fantasy that then arose for me is Orange pushing me out of an airplane sans NB 8 (or anything ressembling one) shouting: THAT's FOR TINA! I also have a second flight of fancy, of Orange burning me at a stake, ala the Salem witch trials. Whew... Quote Hah. You'd actually have several jumpmasters for your chuteless jump. Jo would certainly be there with Orange. Orange and Snow dug really deep on SE Asia topics including the intriguing MACV SOG night jumps into the NVN jungle. http://www.macvsog.cc/ They also explored the CIA's recruitment of smoke jumpers for covert ops in SE Asia. Sheridan's smoke jumper background and his work as an "advisor" in Nam are noteworthy as is his work in technical documentation at Boeing, night jump experience, business suit jump, and huge grudge against the US Govt. I think Sheridan is a superbly qualified candidate, but I can't square Norjack with his character. He seems to be a principled person who abhors violence and he has no criminal record. He looks a lot like the FBI sketches and according to Sailshaw has an olive complexion. If his Nepal alibi was really solid the FBI wouldn't have insisted on a DNA test. They ruled him out on DNA. Sailshaws recommends that the FBI see if Sheridans DNA matches any on the letters or stamps and envelopes used for the highly publicized post skyjack letters sent to newspapers allegedly authored by DBC. It's an easy thing to do IF they have good samples. Bruce, any chance you could ask Norman whether he machined pure titanium in his shop prior to the skyjack date? Maybe you could show him Toms tie findings and ask if any of those metals might have been on the rigs he supplied to the FBI. 377 PS, my HUD goggles ROCK. Tiny tiny color LCD screen, GPS receiver, barometric digital altimeter, three axis accelerometer, lithium ion battery. Real time graphical data readouts including lift over drag ratio. All this for under $300 (i was a beta customer). Sadly no radio. I was hoping for at least Bluetooth. We live in an age of electronic miracles. I was an EE freshman when I turned 18 and made my first jump. I fantasized about all sorts of electronic skydiving gadgets but none as cool as this. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I want whatever Georger is infusing this evening. He is in a wonderful mood. Savor it G! Bruce: Orange1 definitely needs recognition. She added a lot to the collective intelligence here. I sure wish she would return. E Vicki is a class act and a smart cookie. She certainly deserves a spot. Jo, I would eat two crows if Paul Quade thought this forum was worthy of his creative attention as a screenwriter. I think he viewed this assignment as a task not an inspiration. But I might be wrong. I often miss subtle nuanced things. And don't forget Dorkzone. It is still on YouTube. Publish a link in your book. Safe's chaptered video on the Tena Bar money path is another must see forum inspired video. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo promised (emphasis added) The KY referred to Jo's home state, not any personal lubrication products. I didnt see the double entendre when I wrote it, but Guru and Jo did. Jo, you really have mastered the art of the tease. Although I know better, you have me wondering... "what if Jo really has found some evidence that will solve the case. Might I actually have to eat a CROW?" Then I come to my senses... 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote (emphasis added) Nobody ever forces your hand Jo. You will riddle and tease until those KY cows come home. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote Jo, How have I deceived you??? What imagined conspiracy am I a part of? Be specific. I think I have been respectful and forthright with you in my posts. Here is what I wrote. Show me what is deceptive: The minute somone challenges your DW=DBC bias you attack their character. Hell hath no fury like a "Cooper wife" challenged. Save some popcorn for me Amazon. Light on the butter and salt if you don't mind. And none of that blue organic hippie popcorn, OK? I'll bring the beer. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Met rev Jim at WFFC and never forgot him. Such a warm and decent guy. He lit up everything he touched with that big heart of his. He will be missed, now and always. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I'm not sure any of the Cooper books have been profitable. You might hold the record Guru. Perhaps the movie made money, but with Hollywood accounting it probably showed a loss to the chump level investors and the IRS. The real Cooper Curse is financial. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Disbanded Oct 2011. http://boeingskydivingps.home.comcast.net/~boeingskydivingps/index.html 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo you missed my point. My basic point is what makes you think Duane's (then cryptic to you) statement about being Dan Cooper was true? All the allegedly probative evidence (hypothetical Norjack 20s in the wallet in the van, alleged parachute hardware, airline ticket, parking stub, etc) is gone. Everything else is not probative, at best just suggestive. Whether you understood what he was telling you at the time doesn't matter. You came to understand it later. The question is simple: what evidence do you have that Duane's statement was true rather than a deceitful boast? Has it occurred to you that the confession may have been a lie? I believe that he told you he was Dan Cooper. Not everyone shares that opinion. You may have spent years pursuing evidence that may not exist because the confession was untrue: a boast, a last shot at being remembered as a big shot. I know this falls on deaf ears. You are 100% certain the confession was true. I ask you to question that belief. Test it. Doubt it. Eye it with scepticism. Instead you swallow it whole hog and make it your life's mission to substantiate it. Duane's reputation for honesty was abysmal. What makes you so sure he was honest in his confession? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo writes What exactly did Carr say to you Jo? Here's what you say if arrested: I want a lawyer. Until I get one I have nothing to say. Don't question me further please. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Another DBC thread: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/2489893/ Less vitriol. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote Jo is riddling yet again. Stop the theatrics Jo. Just name the man and say explicitly what evidence you have. Even rich famous and powerful people can no longer control the flow of or access to information. Those days are over. Whistleblowers, Internet, hackers, emails etc have made that job nearly impossible. Put Duane in a chute. It's something you have repeatedly failed to do. We've heard all sorts of wild hypotheses ranging from parachuting pipe welders to smoke jumping inmates. None of it pans out. I fail to see how Duane's relationship with Horan or connections to Spokane will put Duane in a chute, but I don't know what I don't know. You are 100% certain that Duane was Cooper or his accomplice. It's all based on what Duane allegedly uttered as he was dieing. You have not a shred of evidence to tie Duane to Norjack other than his statement. Has it occurred to you that he might have been making a false boast wanting to be remembered as a mastermind criminal who fooled the FBI rather than a petty crook who had dozens of arrests and numerous convictions? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I saw this article a while back. It's one of the reasons I got angry with BK when he claimed that Rataczak was an accomplice in the hijacking. Wow!!! What a guy. I'll never refer to him as "Rat" again. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote Jo, Stop your paranoid speculation about Georger. He's not a plant. He's not FBI CIA or MIB. He's a real person. He'd like to see the mystery solved as would the FBI and everyone else you accuse of covering up. Sometimes his posts are goofy or mean and sometimes they are insightful and show the keen intellect and scientific talent that he brings to the forum. To think that there is a big conspiratorial effort to hide the real Norjack evidence is lunacy. You blame this "conspiracy" for your inability to prove that Duane was Cooper. The FBI isn't to blame for your failure. They want the case solved. Georger does too. So do I. You want it solved but only one way. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

https://www.23andme.com/?gclid=CO-X_a6hhbUCFWlxQgodvTUAnQ 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

23 and me does a very reasonably priced DNA scan. My brother and I got tests. 23 and me correctly predicted eye and hair color on both of us. It also flagged us as brothers even though we submitted saliva samples anonymously. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Blevins wrote Robert, The Supremes slapped down the FCC pretty hard on their obscenity standards enforcement. See below. As an ACLU member all I can say is fuck yeah! Are ya feelin me FCC? What a moronic waste of govt money being the swear word police. http://www.dailytech.com/America+Fk+Yeah+Supreme+Court+Axes+FCCs+TV+Obscenity+Rules/article24991.htm 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Both. It makes a balanced meal. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote I don't doubt that you heard this story Jo, but I am surprised you would give it ANY credibility. First of all discount MIB stories, including Janet's. 99.999% of the stories about MIBs silencing people are BS. Second, any producer/director worth his salt would realize he had a hit in the making if the govt moved to block its release. He or she wouldn't just throw in the towel and say, its a wrap, shut the set down. Third, the movie guys could ignore such an "order". Make the censors get an injunction. Govt coverup and conspiracy claims are classic excuses for failure to deliver evidence supporting a person's story. Its a version of "the dog ate my homework". Call me an ignorant prejudiced sceptic, I consider it a compliment. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Sure there are some design drawbacks noted above, but what an insane value for $299! I am an EE techno-nerd and deeply appreciate Recon's efforts. Check this out: http://aprs.fi/#!mt=hybrid&z=14&call=a%2FAF6IM&timerange=3600&tail=3600 I and some fellow jumpers/nerds who are into ham radio have put together gear that posts inflight jump data to the Internet in real time using the APRS packet radio system. We broadcast GPS altitude position course and ground speed. We also post heart rate and blood oxygen % (SpO2). If you click on the red dots you'll see data. Only some of the dots have heart info so try a few. We will be tweaking and repackaging the Recon HUD gear. Hope to be able to integrate it into a full face helmet. We've also had success in live air to ground video using ham radio microwave frequencies. We also built and test flew HF data beacon gear capable of reaching hams many thousands of miles away. Still tweaking this gear. It uses a trailing wire end fed dipole antenna deployed after opening and jettisoned before landing. Is this stuff practical? We don't really care. We just like making and operating it. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Yikes Jo. So you don't like the FBI eh? We've clearly underestimated the depth of your rage. Sure they've made mistakes. That doesn't prove a cover up. They want the case solved in my opinion. Any agent who solves it will be a celebrity. This is their ONLY unsolved skyjack. The FBI has no obligation to prove to you that Duane couldn't be DBC. That's not their mission. Your status as an ailing widow seeking closure just doesn't matter to them. As for the DL picture don't sweat it. On the Internet looks don't matter anyway. We saw your younger pix Jo and you were very good looking. You are still that same person, just a bit older. I'll bet you still look good. The FBI actually spent some serious time and effort on Duane. They didn't ignore you. They ruled Duane out and you disagree, violently it appears. They have ignored many like you who claim they know DBCs ID. You got more attention than most. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

My skydiving HUD is arriving tomoorow. A head up display (mounted in goggles) that displays GPS info and baro altitude. If only Cooper had one of these in those sunglass frames. Can't wait to fly it. When I first started solo skydiving I didn't even wear an altimeter. I was good at eyeballing altitude by looking at cars on the DZ. Now I use every electronic gadget made for jumpers. Something beeps at me if I go low. Another records all my jump data automatically. Another reports my position course altitude ground speed heart rate and blood oxygen level to mountaintop ham radio repeaters which automatically upload the info to the Internet site www.aprs.fi I even have a "pinger" watch to broadcast a distress signal on 121.5 MHz if needed. I love electronic gadgets. Can you tell? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Blevins wrote Not so sure about restrictions. Uranium (non enriched) can be bought online and so can heavy water. That's what makes this AHR technology so accessible. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Aqueous Homogenous Reactors. Bet this will tempt Sluggo to reappear. AHRs can achieve criticality without enriched uranium fuel. That means any reasonably skilled nuke hacker could make one. You can make fuel with ordinary uranium ore converted into salts (eg uranium nitrate or sulfate). You don't even need heavy water if you have very pure light water. They big problem is that the aqueous material is highly highly corrosive. Titanium reactor vessel might solve that problem. Radio is more my thing. This is Sluggo territory. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

From http://www.golf-components.com/titanium.html 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.