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Georger, Snowmman, Sluggo, Can you post an enhanced jpg of the stained bill that best highlights the shapes of the rust stains? Is the false color one that Geroger posted optimal for showing shape? The symmetrical nature of some stains suggests contact with a manufactured steel item. I want to see if I can match it up with anything that might have been on an NB 6 rig. It is a super longshot but easy to do. Thanks. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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I want autographs before all you guys become famous and start charging for them. Ckret is already famous, but the other heavy hitters on this forum are about to have their 15 minutes of fame. I think we are all underestimating the level of continuing public interest in the Cooper case. The wedding I was at last weekend had a lot of farmers from rural Kentucky who are hardly Cooper buffs, but they all knew about Cooper, the latest developments such as the chute find, and got into a really spirited discussion about the case, who Cooper might have been and whether he lived or died. I did not start the Cooper conversation. It got started by someone talking about my skydiving and it just went right into Cooper without me pushing it one bit. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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? is this myth or fact? I thought he hung at Club Rendevous, based on the contents of the wallet found in the van. (attached) Where DO you get this stuff Snowmman? You and Sluggo never cease to amaze me. Can't you just get your agency's massively parallel computer to cut to the chase and identify Cooper? ...or take an educated guess? I was at a wedding over the weekend and the subject of DB Cooper came up in idle chit chat during the reception. I was amazed at how many people were interested and informed and especially how many knew about current events like the chute find. The term "folk hero" was used many times and not once by me. The Cooper legend really has legs. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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"Nyarlathotep nahab y’ha-nthlei" overheard at the Miskatonic Bar, a known Cooper pre-hijack hangout. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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just for fun, is there a rigger reading this who can try to match the shape of any Navy NB6 harness hardware to the rust stains on the Cooper bill? Any possible match? 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Snowmman, I think we are being used. We are a part of a test: the Turing test. Ckret is the govt. monitor. This isn't about Cooper. It is about the neural network memsistor computer salvaged from the saucer crash at Roswell. After years of work, it is finally up and running. And no, it does not use Windows or Vista. Prove you are human. Sluggo, you too. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Quote How come no one commented on LaPoint? Or Sluggo's business card? I thought I did a good job on that. Quote Let me be the first to compliment you on the Sluggo FBI business card! That really was outstanding. For an encore can you do one of those 419 scam money chest photos with all 20s and all Cooper serial numbers? The 419 scammers email me with every story in the book including money belonging to plane crash victims, deposed dictators, etc, but never have they used the Cooper story. I must get the story to Lagos. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Should we then aspire to Aldonza's view of the world, "The world's a dung heap and we are maggots that crawl on it!" or Quixote's, "It is the mission of each true knight... His duty... nay, his privilege! To dream the impossible dream, To fight the unbeatable foe, To bear with unbearable sorrow To run where the brave dare not go; To right the unrightable wrong. ...and the world will be better for this, That one man, scorned and covered with scars, Still strove, with his last ounce of courage, To reach the unreachable star." That was GREAT Ckret! Bravo! Encore!!! Can you sing My Way next? Sinatra, Goulet, Martin, Bennet... those Vegas lounge punks aint got nuthin on you. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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G, You gotta be a spysat guy... or perhaps into its more benign cousin, earth resources imaging? Crop circles on twenties. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Georger, Do you see a circular line of rust stain (partly broken)? Wonder what it means? I also see a couple of semi circular discolorations, will try to mark up the picture to show you. I don't think stains match up dimensionally to any steel NB 6 harness hardware, but a rigger could tell us. There is something symmetrical in that rust stain that looks a bit like a D ring, but the NB6 didnt have D rings, correct? see images at: http://boeing377.googlepages.com/imageinrustedcooperbill 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Hidden image in rusted Cooper bill, making signals from noise. http://boeing377.googlepages.com/imageinrustedcooperbill 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Yeah, actually you are right Georger. I am so hungry for a real clue that I am amplifying noise and calling it a signal. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Can Ckret tell us the history on this "transcript"? A very unusual choice of words indeed. If transcript is accurate, there must be a clue here. The rust stains still puzzle me. I doubt if they came from something random, like the bundles coming to rest on some wet rusty scrap metal. Seems more likely that they came from something the money was transported in, but just a hunch. Chute hardware on my military surplus gear was not stainless steel. Only the ripcord was stainless. I think most of the metal pieces were cadmium or nickel plated steel, but a rigger would know exactly. I do remember seeing rusty harness parts on discarded surplus gear that had been left out in the elements. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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This PROVES Cooper was a skydiver. Candi was a regular at my DZ and left her mark on many a young jumper. Check out that tie DNA tissue material a little further, should test positive for Herpes. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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hmmm... will have to see what I can find out about in cabin access to that space. I dont see it in my manual but it is a flight manual not maintenance. I'd guess that access to #2 engine from pax space would be dangerous as it would give a path for fuel, fire, etc. Also, it could compromise cabin pressurization unless there was an airtight door. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Jim, Do you think Cooper faked the jump, hid on the plane and disembarked on the ground during or after landing? Houdini might have been able to pull that off. Where could Cooper have hidden? The behind panel spaces in the lav are too small from what I can see perusing my 727-100 manual. There is no access to the cargo hold from the pax cabin from what I can see. Tell us your theory. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Remember the SLA (kidnapped Patricia Hearst)? They were hiding out in South Central LA during an intense nationwide manhunt in the 70s and nobody turned them in. Surely some neighbors must have suspected who they were. I wonder if there were people who knew for sure or had strong suspicions who Cooper was but didn't turn him in? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Sounds like the same type of battery that was used in a airliner bomb that was featured in the FBI story movie. It was the type I used as a kid for a power source for glow plugs on small gas engined model airplanes: carbon zinc dry cell, about as thick as an arm, about half a foot high and two screw terminals on top. You used them only during starting, lasted for several years of starts. Here is a picture of a similar battery. Not common, hard to find, might give clues about Cooper... did he fly RC planes? 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Hey Ckret, welcome back! I join you in soliciting SCPLF's continued participation. Those apparent rust stains on the bills are interesting. I feel dumb for missing them, and dumber for not being able to come up with a good explanation for their presence. The Boeing Flight Test Dept guy is worth tracking down, but with all the publicity that was blazing at the time of the hijack I'll bet Boeing people who suspected one of their own was Cooper would have been all over it back then. Now he is kind of folk hero, but I wonder if he was perceived more as a bad guy at the time of the crime? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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incredibly complete coverage! Wow. What were the two reserve canopies? Sure glad it all worked out OK. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Seems to me a canopy hanging from a tree would have been spotted from the air. Also, sounds implausible... the kids would have mentioned it to the adults who would have been interested in investigating further. Are there islands that are large enough to have backwoods that could have a treed chute and not have it visible from the beach? If so which ones? Are they within the likely Cooper landing area? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Was that a Capewell cutaway Beatnik? Man, what a scary picture. What altitude did the collision occur at? 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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People come and go from this forum, but I really hope we can keep the holy trinity going. They constantly amaze me with new angles. I think Sluggo will be in for the long haul, I hope Snowmman and Georger will just take a break rather than a departure. I was looking at Cooper stuff on the web and read that two long lost bodies were found during the initial search, which attests to some thoroughness. Still, a through search in the wrong place won't find Cooper or his rig. I gotta find an online translation bot for Hebrew to English. I don't know what you guys are posting but recognize the language. Spent a lot of time in Israel when I worked in aerospace... thermal imaging related stuff. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Saw the weirdest 337 mod flying out of Marina CA. Rear engine removed, super long nose mod with a large piston engine up front. WHY? 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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He already didQuote Thanks labrys, I missed that post. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.