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Farflung is still hot for Sister. There is no cure Farflung. Abstinence and service to God is looked upon favorably, but no favors are granted in return. You'd have a better chance with Jodie Foster. Farflung and Snowmman have uncanny abilities to find images and videos that correlate with a theme they wish to present. I've tried to duplicate their results using Google Images and Video searches but my results are crude imitations. It's like they have a thought driven search engine. Jo, your description of Jerry as the most despicable man on Earth is a bit overboard don't you think? It's all keyboard, talk and phone calls, nothing more. You find his behavior offensive and threatening and it stresses you, but has he caused you any tangible harm? I wish he were more cordial to you but it isn't going to happen. Emulate Gandhi or Jesus. Roll with it. Love your enemy. It's worth a try Jo. Nothing else seems to work. If you die and it is later proven that Duane was Cooper, I'll visit your grave, place flowers on it and offer a heartfelt apology. I wish you luck with your "project." You could do it yourself using Microsoft Power Point or similar free "slide show" media presentation programs. Online tutorials are available. Duane's supposed metamorphosis from an inept petty criminal to a masterful and innovative DB Cooper is literally incredible and I and most others do not believe it happened. You still haven't put Duane in a chute. You have made claims that seem untrue, such as having seen an article about prison inmate smoke jumpers. I don't think you were lying, just mistaken. I think you believe what you say. I really wish you and Jerry could peacefully coexist, but its like Israel and Iran. Unlikely. The current soap opera is entertaining, in a Jerry Springer kind of way, but I sorely miss the Snowmman era, when Orange, Sluggo, Safe and the MMan himself were bringing provocative new info to the forum every day. The richness of the info did a lot to keep petty bickering down. Now it seems that bickering is all that is going on here. I hope Bruce gets to interview Sheridan while he is still alive. Sheridan is a perfect DBC even if he wasn't the guy. He was ruled out ONLY on tie DNA. I think the Sheridan "list" trumps KCs list in substance if not in number of entries. I wish Quade would let Snow back. We need someone to help us turn this forum back towards research. It's worth any aggravation Snows presence might bring. Will Snow "behave"? Probably not, but dole out serial vacations rather than a permanent exile. Emulate Gandhi. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Come on Jerry, Quade isnt that fragile or delicate. He can make up his own mind no matter what I post about Jamie or anyone else. If he is inclined to give Snow a chance he will. If he isn't he isnt. It doesnt depend on what I post. Quade can confirm or deny that if he chooses. How about it Quade? I am not your enemy Jerry. Hold your fire. Save your ammo. Must be nice to own a high yield gold mine while all this stuff in the Middle East is making your ore more valuable every day. Funny, I am all soft and liberal about most things but irrationally crazy about the Somali pirates. I want great harm to come to them and fast. Must touch some nerve from my days making my living at sea. Georger, I hear two of the recent pirate murder victims were ham radio ops. I do like it that Jerry supports Snow's return. No matter how you feel about the guy the value of his contributions were high and we need him back. Jo, just checking in on your recent tease. When will you deliver or do us the courtesy of cancelling it? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I dont think it would bother Quade one bit if we stopped the thread. It's a nearly thankless chore for him to moderate it. The forum does OK without Snow and it would do just fine without me. But why be so confrontational Georger? I want Snow back but it isnt an ultimatum or a threat. Can't I whine without being ridiculed? There's room for everyone here, even Bob and even Jamie if he were allowed back. If you don't like someone's postings just skip over them, its so easy to do. Planning some jumps this Saturday, but a big storm is coming down from AK and may bring snow to the SF Bay Area! Brrrr. Might sit it out in front of a warm fire. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Snow won't come back on his knees Jerry, you know that... and Quade isnt even offering Snow that unappealing opportunity. Too bad. I honestly think we wouldnt be caught in this name calling dead zone if Snow had been on the forum. He always came up with new facts that kept things lively and interesting. Without that input we become stagnant and start attacking each other rather than trying to solve the DBC mystery. I must be a Polyanna. I dont see why just about everyone slams Blevins. He said from the outset that he had no proof that KC=DBC and that his case was 100% circumstantial. He had an interesting but (to me) incorrect theory to explain KC's actions and wealth. He used it as the basis for a book and TV show. Big deal. I'll bet he barely made minimum wage on that project when all the accounting is finished. There will be hell to pay when Gayla wrpas up the accounting. Can't we disagree with Blevins without making personal attacks? Same thing with Jo. I don't agree with any of her conclusions that DW=DBC, but we remain cordial. Vicki has somehow learned to navigate the forum Maelstrom without getting pulled under. She could write a book on how to advocate a DB Cooper suspect without getting trashed on dropzone.com. My hat is off to her. She has leaned to live in harmony with hungry vicious wolves and jackyls. Vicki has amazing adaptive abilities. I'll again make my often repeated request to Quade to grant Snow amnesty and let him back on the forum. Nothing Snow did deserves PERMANENT banning. If he breaks the rules just give him some more time outs. We need his brain on this forum. I know it buys nothing here, but in real life Snow is a remarkably nice generous and helpful guy. He still will not admit to making DORKZONE on YouTube. It could be Farflung, but I doubt it. Wherre have Sluggo and Safe gone to? I miss those guys. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jerry wrote: Slow down Jerry. All I've said is that I doubt if you'll get the FBI to give Jo a polygraph. I also think Jo believes what she posts. I disagree with her conclusions and have stated so MANY times. I call her to task for teasing too. She never delivers on the teases. There is one pending right now but she once again fails to deliver. Somehow you translate this into me being one of the reasons this country is going to hell. I'd love to see Jo's stories tested by all means. I just don't think the FBI will assist. Before you get too carried away with polygraphs do some research done to investigate their reliability. They aren't lie detectors. They are stress detectors. If Jo believes her story she won't have much trouble passing. You think she is a cynical manipulative liar and that Duane was not connected with Norjack. I think she believes her story but I reach the same conclusion as you do about Duane and Norjack. I doubt if Jo's posts here and elsewhere have done any serious harm to the case. I dont think Jo keeps potential witnesses from coming forward. Vicki is a prime example. Jo didn't scare her away. Same goes for Jamie. Few believe Duane was Cooper or part of Norjack. I don't. No reason to beat on Jo so hard even if she enrages you with what you consider to be knowing falsehoods and constantly changing versions which adopt newly found info and incorporate it into her Duane story. She is an elderly woman on her last legs who believes her con man late husband who seemed to ways get arrested and convicted was a mastermind criminal who evaded the FBI for decades. Let her believe it. Who besides Jo and Bob believes Duane was Cooper? The silence is deafening. I rest my case. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Lying to the FBI is a felony. I don't think the FBI thinks Jo lied to them, just that her conclusions about Duane being DBC were incorrect. I'll be amazed if you get the FBI to administer a polygraph exam to Jo. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

The case against Cooper could be won but only with unambiguous untainted evidence like a good print match with a sample taken off the rear stairs... Duane's worst nightmare. You are right Robert. This case isn't going to be won on DNA alone. Besides, the FBI seems to only have enough fragments to rule out wannabes, not a good enough sample to positively identify the donor of the tie DNA. I'd love to defend Cooper. I'd do it for free. He'd be better served by some top guns. Too bad Johnny Cochrane died. I saw Cochrane in court early in his career as a prosecutor. He was outstanding. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

The FBI couldn't care less about whether or not Jo is lying. They aren't relying on her testimony. Right or wrong they ruled Duane out on DNA. Jo's veracity doesn't matter to them. I'll be amazed of you get the FBI to offer Jo a polygraph test. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

From the steppes of the permaban comes a message: Hmmm. Georger, your thoughts? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger wrote: Georger, Why does your sense of humor evaporate late at night? Do you really see me as an enemy or a person lacking in intelligence? Cool down and see the bigger picture. Jo is a true believer, even if she is way wrong in her conclusions. That's my opinion and it needn't be met with venom or scorn. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

The medallion reads: I can't decipher that code. I knew I shouldn't have traded my ENIGMA machine for a used ParaCommander. Sky King Sky King, do not answer. Far-flung knows that message prefix well, but he no longer has access to the daily code book. Come on Georger. Have a go at it. I'll ask my neighbor too. He is a high ranking Mason. If he won't decode it I'll have to bring in the big guns like Nicholas Cage. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I don't see Jo as a troll. I bet she passes a polygraph. She believes what she writes. I know Jerry strongly disagrees. A hungry person is a hungry person be it a good person down on their luck, a thieving lying junkie or a forum troll. I'll feed any of them with no regrets. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo, Tell me how DBC would obtain a medallion from a passenger? Duane was a pickpocket/purse snatcher but it would have been a poor use of his time to do it during the skyjack. Also, if the inscription is from Nan wouldn't the medallion be in Gordons possession rather than Nan who you think might have been passenger Nancy House? I'll bet against that medallion having any connection to Norjack. A far more likely explanation is Duane lifted it during a friendly conversation in a bar or lounge. That's his PROVEN MO not skyjacking and parachuting. Occam agrees. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Farflung: wrote: Tell me you've never had a Lesbian or Nun fantasy Farflung. Are you willing to take a polygraph? Wouldn't that be a kick if Vicki's Dad was DBC? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Sara Jane Moore is out on parole too. She took a shot at President Ford in SF. On May 28, 2009, Moore appeared on NBC's Today program, her first television appearance since leaving prison on parole. She told anchorman Matt Lauer, "I am glad that I didn't kill [Ford], but I don't regret trying." Huh? Sara Jane obviously isn't the sharpest sharpshooter. From Wikipedia: Moore's friends said she had a deep fascination and obsession with Patty Hearst.[5] After Hearst was kidnapped by the Symbionese Liberation Army, her father Randolph Hearst created the organization People in Need (P.I.N.) to feed the poor, in order to answer S.L.A. claims that the elder Hearst was "committing 'crimes' against 'the people.'"[5] Moore was a bookkeeper for P.I.N. and an FBI informant[3][5][6] when she attempted to assassinate Ford. I wonder if Bob knew Sara Jane? We've spend enough time on KC and Duane for a while, in my humble opinion. What about taking another look at Ted Braden? He sure had the motive and the training. Billy Waugh and other Nam SOG guys thought he was a great DBC suspect. I exchanged a couple of emails with Galen. The Janet "man on the stairs" sighting was just relayed info and does not mean that he thinks that is an accurate account of her sighting. He is more focused on her alleged flare sighting and what it would mean about the flight path if it were true. I've always thought Galen to be a smart guy with an open mind and I havent changed my mind. Remember the disappearance of famed flier Steve Fosset? There was ONE witness whose account of seeing the plane in flight was disregarded because it didnt fit into the generally accepted understanding of the fight direction. Turned out this ignored witness was right 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Bob wrote: RFK, JFK, MLK and now Charley Manson? I don't know what gives you more Norjack info, a sectional chart with the Victor Airways or a Hollywood star map? I don't know any stars. Can I still play? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Farflung wrote; I know its a huge burden Farflung, but hang in there. Virtue and honesty are increasingly rare qualities here. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Good one Orange and oh so true. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger wrote: Janet saw the X-Flare and the man in the moon. She smokes Raleigh Criterias. You can swap the coupons for Haldol. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger wrote: I am being blasted by protons as I write this Georger. Oh, the horror. We should all be taking refuge in deep caves or mines. I've wrapped all my radio gear in tin foil. What precautions are you taking? Snow is using a ten mile Beverage antenna to charge up capacitors for his EMP cannon. Green as can be. Sluggo is no fool. I'll bet he knows just where to go to put a few feet of lead between himself, Sugar and the sun. I'll bet Janet can see solar flares. She had better STFU if she can or those MIBs will be all over her again. According to Bruce we didnt really rule out Ted Braden, we just sort of ran out of steam. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Isnt it funny that the incidence of alleged genuine UFO photos hasn't skyrocketed with the advent of cell phone cameras? Those ANNUNAKIs have obviously developed technology that can detect CCD and CMOS image sensors and stay out of range. They never could perfect their photo film detectors. NANU NANU. NUNU NUNU. ANNUNAKI GO GO GO. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo is threatening lawsuits again. Sigh. will she ever learn? Want to see if a lawsuit has substance? See if you can get a lawyer to take it on a pure contingency fee basis if you are paying a lawyer by the hour then your lawsuit is always meritorious etc etc. Ask if they will bet their own time and money on the outcome and suddenly your brilliant lawsuit, the one with the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, morphs into a risky uncertain highly speculative enterprise in which a contingency fee arrangement is out of the question. This DBC squabbling would get laughed out of most courtooms. The judge would hold an off the record conference in his chambers and counsel would be told to "get this POS case off my GD docket." 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Mark wrote: I made over a hundred C 9 jumps and I too thought an unsleeved round canopy would give a horrendous opening shock on a 727 jump. The films of the Air America 727 S/L jumps show otherwise. The 727 is flying faster than terminal velocity (I'd guess 160?) and the jumpers are S/L deployed right out the ventral door. The canopies "squid" and open actually pretty slowly, not the pop bang I expected. I don't think I ever saw a white modified C9 skydiving main on the US West Coast , but maybe things were different in other areas. Mine was a alternating panel orange and white and there were a lot of 4 color ones around too. I sure do not miss those bone crunching landings backing up at ten or more knots on a breezy summer afternoon. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Are you sure? He seems to have a few people's undivided attention. That's more than a lot of people get. Well maybe, but we are a tiny audience compared to Coast to Coast AM or some of the UFO abduction forums. If you really want to make a big splash you don't play in this viscous swamp. Maybe Bob is content to be the proverbial big fish in a tiny pond. Coast to Coast is hilarious. I bet I could get on there with the most preposterous theories. I think I'll propose an appearance to talk about intelligent plasma: ball lightning as an ET life form. They have been seen to communicate using optical pulse modulation, reproduce by dividing, and have been observed interfering with radio communication using wideband RF emission. Last night was about Planet X (unseen but present in our solar system) and its influence on human moods. Also, did you know that our sun is a binary star, but the other half of the pair isnt visible to us? Also, you can't trust govt funded astronomers to tell us the truth. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Nice going G! I worked ORK (S. Orkney Island) too, just once, on 20 meters. Snowmman got me totally set up for HF. He is an antenna wizard. You would not believe how helpful and generous he has been. Jo would do well in ham radio, don't you think? She is persistent. She never gives up. No matter how tough the conditions are and no matter how much interference she encounters, Jo keeps focused on her goal. Although I find Bob's posts completely unbelievable, I still welcome him here. He is provocative and entertaining. I am also glad to see Jerry back. I just wish Quade would consider clemency for Snow. He would add so much to the forum and could help extract us from this current detour that is leading us nowhere. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.