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If the President is responsible for enforcement of ALL the Federal laws it's hard to argue that border enforcement specifically is one of his primary responsibilities - because then almost everything else is as well. And then what does 'primary' really mean?

Best read in the voice of Paulie Walnuts.

The announcements -- which protesters celebrated by singing on the streets and setting off fireworks -- marked a historic victory for the protesters, Could it get any worse?

An accumulation of shit. The guy with the fan. Someone downwind?

I think they’re after a heck of a lot more than that.

Progressives Victorious at Twitter.

It is very magnanimous of you to provide us with more targets for ridicule. Kudos, Ron.

He knows he’s supposed to stockpile supplies in the storm shelter and not in his stomach, right?

And that secret ballot was inside the last three years. And his party supported him in it despite the lack of any possible comeback from the whips. So congratulations on destroying your own argument. That doesn’t make any sense. Again you presented the absurdly naive, idealistic, rose tinted interpretation that the Tory party was showing backbone and integrity. I pointed out they were actually just acting for their own survival. So again, accusing me of idealism? The fuck are you talking about?

What idealised standards? You said they showed backbone and integrity. That’s a hopelessly naive and idealised view of a group of people who simply acted according to their own survival instinct. Are you somehow under the impression that I wrote your post? By the way, the confidence vote the Tories supported him in exactly a month ago was a secret ballot. Whips and peer pressure were both completely irrelevant. They simply thought it was in their own partisan best interest that he stay. But you think that view is ‘too idealised’ and they really acted for noble reasons

The fuck are you talking about? It was you who said they showed backbone and integrity - how can you possibly accuse anyone else of having an idealised view of them?

That’s incorrect (though an entirely understandable confusion). Boris survived a confidence vote for leadership of his party. This is brought by Tory MPs and voted on by Tory MPs. This couldn’t be repeated for a year…. Except the Party could and probably would have simply changed the rules and held another one next week if he hadn’t stepped down. The result of this would be a Leadership election again within the Tory party and the winner would become PM for the remainder of Boris’ term (or until they decide to call snap election). Gowlerk is talking about a Parliamentary confidence vote which would be brought by the Labour Party (the official opposition) and voted on by all MPs. This is the direct equivalent of impeachment, and is less likely to succeed because it would require Tories to vote in favour of a Labour. Also because the result if Boris lost would be a full General Election to choose a completely new government, and the Tories will not be very confident of voter support right now. Labour will quite possibly still bring this Confidence vote very soon if Boris stays. It’ll probably fail, but they’ll use it as a stick to beat all the incumbent Tory MPs who vote against it with at the next election.

Well…. Sort of yes. But again it needed the Tory party to get to the point where they thought Boris was becoming a handicap at the polls for them to act on anything. It’s no coincidence the breaking point came shortly after two huge by-election defeats. Without those, and if this Pincher thing hadn’t happened we could have been barrelling towards a full blown Constitutional crisis. If the standards committee had eventually decided that Boris lied to Parliament during Partygate he definitely would not have resigned as required by the Ministerial code. And his party may well have thought that after so much time had past and voters had started to forgive and forget, they could get away with not enforcing the code and getting rid of him. Then a no confidence vote brought by Labour would definitely not get the support it needed from the Tories (just like in US Impeachment proceedings). After that the only remaining option would be for the Queen to dismiss the PM, and it’s highly unlikely she would do that because it would be like detonating a nuclear bomb in the heart of British Democracy. So it’s perhaps not too hyperbolic to say that our entire system of accountability in government was saved by a middle aged pervert copping a feel in a crowded bar.

Are you sure she didn’t? For sure it’s one of those things that could easily be true. But confessions extracted by Russian police are even more ‘interesting’ than those extracted in US interrogations.

Lol, no. They’re not as bad as most of the current Republican Party but nothing happening here is an indication of integrity. The Tory party stood by BoJo and defended through everything, for years, except this. It’s funny that numerous MPs and Ministers publicly calling for his resignation yesterday pointed out that they backed him in the confidence vote after the lockdown party scandal ‘because they believed his promise that things would change’. Boris will never change. He’s always been the same. A liar and a cheat in every relationship and every job he’s ever had. Fired from his first newspaper job for using fictional quotes and sources. Fired from his first political job for fucking his secretary and lying to his boss about it. Even his teacher at Eton, a private school where pupils are quite literally taught to believe that they are the future leaders of the country, said in a report that Boris was an entitled little shit who was incapable of understanding that the rules were supposed to apply to him too. And the Tory party tried to ignore it all. They stood with him for years through the cavalcade of lies, fraud, incompetence and cronyism he’s perpetrated from 10 Downing Street because they thought he’d win them the next election. They haven’t grown a conscience, they’ve just realised that at this rate the voters will have had enough by then, and he’d have dragged them down with him if they’d let him.

Think about how this applies - a bunch of Justices appointed on a promise to overturn Roe v Wade overturned Roe v Wade. They came to a decision about the constitution that is not only counter to every other panel of Justices since the ‘70s, it just so happens to match the very strongly held religious anti-abortion beliefs if those justices. Be honest with yourself, dude. You know that’s not a coincidence, stop pretending it is.

Spanking vs not spanking is clearly not the issue here.

When someone who only ever supports one side of the aisle says “they’re all as bad as each other” it’s always just an excuse to ignore the bad behaviour of their side.

If you believe the other misogynists who are trying to cover their tracks. Plus there’s the language. As an illustration, you probably wouldn’t call a black person a n****r just because they made a joke about black culture.

Yes indeed, you are entitled to your inane misogynistic dribble. I’d also add that while BoJo was actually stabbed square in his front, it was for the same reason as Caesar. He was well on the way to destroying every convention and process that makes our system of government work. Unlike with Caesar though, I think they got him in time.

So the thing that finally brought Boris down was lying about the fact that he already knew one of his senior officials had been credibly accused of sexual assault (groping in public) on multiple occasions when he appointed the guy to his position. While Boris claimed to have had no idea at all that anything had been alleged, it was leaked that in private he used to joke about the guy being ‘Pincher by name, pincher by nature’! Absolute scumbag on every level. A car crash of a human being.

Errrrm actually no. He can’t even resign properly. He’s stepping down as leader of his party but aiming to stay as ‘interim’ Prime Minister until the stories can pick a new leader at their conference in October. This saga is not finished yet.

Well you’re clearly an insightful person with rational views that are worth listening to.

Why do you believe them? Why do you trust that this panel of Justices, appointed on a promise to overturn Roe v Wade no matter what, accurately analysed and interpreted the Constitution when every other panel of Justices since 1973 says they are wrong? I'm not assuming they will, they already fucking have. It's not a hypothetical, it's already the fucking law. Denying that black and white fact isn't silly, it's dishonest and despicable.

In other words, you've stuck your head in the sand. Roe v Wade was upheld through numerous chalenges over numerous decades by numerous different benches and members of the Supreme Court. Then it gets overturned by a bunch of newly appointed religious zealots who were put in place by a politician whose campaign promise was to appoint Justices who would overturn Roe v Wade. But you still hope the decision was based on solid legal work and not politics? What planet are you living on? And by taking the gun issue away from State level the electorate doesn't have a voice. So your claim that their ethos is to return power to the people is clearly false. It's fine for them to be heard, but what you hear shouldn't always be acted on. Citizens shouldn't be allowed to overule other citizens rights, and anyone who really thinks about everything that's involved should realise that abortion is a human right. Regardless of which - the citizens have been heard and abortion is strongly supported throughout the nation. As already stated, it is mostly the anti-democratic abuses of political process that has allowed the Republican party to dominate legislatures and push their radical agenda to a degree that is absolutely not reflected by the voter demographics of their states or the nation.