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Back in the seventies I knew several people that had left the States for Canada and Europe to avoid the draft and I didn't really have a problem with it then. But this situation is different. At this time my big issue is that he signed up voluntarily, accepted the benefits and then when he was called to hold up his end of the deal, he left. Unfortunately, as I indicated earlier, I will be surprised if Canadian courts refuse his application for refugee status. Our courts are very soft on pretty much everything these days. Edited to Add: as for punishment, the only choice is internment. If the States were to offer to execute him has a deserter (I know they probably don't really do this), then for sure that Canadian courts would make him a refugee. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Get your lazy fingers over to the search button... Shannon is a doll. If I wasnt a dirty old married man, maybe she would give me the time of day... Yep. you're right the search function works. I found pictures!!! She is a hottie!!! I gotta get out of this cold climate more! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

I agree and I am concerned that if they let him stay we will be opening the doors to a whole bunch of people that belived they signed up only to receive and not to give. I don't agree with much that my government does these days and fully expect that our Canadian courts will indeed let him stay! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Well now we have to ask for pictures because some of us have never met her in person and live far, far away, like Canada eh? Just to be sure here are some guidelines for the pictures to be posted: - provocatiove poses - very few clothes - must be high resolution and coloUr Once we get pictures, we can do a poll! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

It's their shoes "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

This article is in regard to an American deserter that is applying to stay in Canada as a refugee. What are your thoughts? I personally believe that if he joined up and was willing to take the Army's money for a college education, then he is obligated to perform the tasks they assign him and go where he is told to go. Those are my thoughts, what are yours? http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/12/06/hinzman041206.html The article for those that want to read it here: -------------------------------------------------------- U.S. army deserter seeking refugee status in Canada Last Updated Tue, 07 Dec 2004 05:06:34 EST TORONTO - An immigration panel in Toronto opened a hearing on Monday that will decide whether a former paratrooper who fled the United States to evade the war in Iraq should be allowed to stay in Canada. INDEPTH: Immigration http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/immigration/ Jeremy Hinzman on July 7, 2004 in Toronto ( CP Photo - file) Jeremy Hinzman is seen as a deserter by the American military, but to his supporters he is a war resister and should be given refugee status in Canada. "I think he has a perfect right to be here as a refugee. His life would be in danger if he went back to the U.S.," said one of Hinzman's supporters outside the hearing. Hinzman enlisted in the U.S. army three years ago as a paratrooper with the 82 Airborne Division. He deserted earlier this year, rather than go to Iraq, and moved to Canada with his wife and small child. In an interview several months ago Hinzman said he enlisted "for pragmatic reasons, because I wanted a college fund." His lawyer says Hinzman is seeking refugee status because he's morally opposed to the war in Iraq and that the U.S. invasion of Iraq violates international human rights. "We are allowed to argue that the conduct of the war on the ground is sufficiently outside the Geneva Conventions that Mr. Hinzman ought not to be associated with it. He should not be compelled to participate in an activity which is in violation of the Geneva Conventions," said lawyer Jeffrey House. Watching the proceedings is a handful of other U.S. military deserters, among them Brandon Hughey. "We're optimistic that in the end we'll be able to stay. But it's going to be a long road," he said. Three days have been set aside for the hearing. Written by CBC News Online staff "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Being from Alberta I have to submit a variation on that map that made it into local papers. Maybe there is a need for another tee shirt, I might have buy the Jesusland one! Just remember we are all united by skydiving and beer! Edited to add the picture! damn I feel stupid when I do this! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

repost... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1376642#1376642 Edited ot add: I've already made my witty Canadian remarks there and would look goofy repeating them! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Ah this has been going on for years.

Google's translator function is even more insulting than just "foolish" or "silly". Put tonto in there and it comes back with "idiot". Kemo Sabe isn't much better depending on what language you choose to translate: http://www.write101.com/kemosabe.htm Crap... I've hijacked my own thread! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

The most embarassing part is that he was rescued by a native American named "Tonto". Being that the Lone Ranger was in Texas, he was quite familiar with the Spanish language and knew what Tonto means in Spanish. Who wants to be rescued by a tonto? I am sure that the Lone Ranger's low self esteem was caused by the fact that being rescued by a tonto made him look really foolish.

Read more of about the investigation.. "NEW YORK While it has been known for months that the death of former football star Pat Tillman in Afghanistan was due to friendly fire, in contrast to how it was first reported, a two-part Washington Post probe that appeared on Sunday and Monday went much further, laying blame on the Pentagon for what looks like a deliberate misinformation campaign. David Zucchino in Monday's Los Angeles Times added more to the story, noting the changing Pentagon story, and adding that even the "amended Pentagon conclusion is contradicted by Afghans who were there the night of April 22." Zucchino wrote that Tillman's parents "say the military has deceived them and stonewalled their attempts to find out how their son died." His mother said, "I'm disgusted by things that have happened with the Pentagon since my son's death." His father added: "The investigation is a lie. It's insulting to Pat." The article from which this was obtained: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000732072 "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

I win! I win!! I win!!! I was the first person to vote for #4!!! I like winning!!! What do I get? "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Be sure to read the decision carefully. The "hood" is OKAY, the "mask" is not. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

I think this thread is great. Paul supplied the initial humor and the responses from people misunderstanding the intent of his initial post has supplied lots since then. It just shows how one light hearted comment can be twisted so far out of shape! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

In 1979 they did... or at least they stopped him from wearing the mask! Fortunately Clayton Moore got to wear the mask again starting in 1984. http://www.mishalov.com/Moore.html "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

I suppose at times I am a little sheltered from reality, but who would have expected that the KKK had the right to wear hoods? http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041206/ts_nm/court_klan_dc&e=6&ncid= "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

I have used a Neptune for about 100 jumps and in my opinion the issue regarding the loudness of the beeps is not really an issue at all. You just have to follow the instructions (1) put the neptune in your helmet so that the back of the unit is towards your ear (2) make sure that the hole where the sound comes out is un-obstructed. Doing step (1) is easy and I've never had a problem with step (2). I use the latest software and am extremely impressed with the service and support from Alti-2. Updating the software is easy and has allowed them to implement new features like Swoop mode. I am very glad I made the decision to buy a Neptune. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

French Paraboots were good things back in the old days. There were two styles, one that had thick soles (like 1-1/2 inches thick!) and one that had thinner soles. I had the version with the thinner soles and they were very comfortable, giving lots of support. Don't know where you'd get them now. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

I'm in Calgary and its SNOWING... going skiing tomorrow! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Check out this site and the terms of use for the music listed there. You can download this in mp3 format and add it to your video. www.freeplaymusic.com "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

I like this one... even if it is a walking bill-board for beer NSFW "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

To serve as a warning to others... "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Benny: Since it appears that the error could have been corrected by ASC themselves, are we going to see an apology for the initial message, as well as follow on messages, suggesting that the error was done by the management of dz.com on purpose? There has been lots of time for the apology to appear, the cause of the problem and solution was outlined in post 22 on Nov. 30 by simpsora. Edited for accuracy, clarity and to add: I won't hold my breath! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

Recycle those fluorescent tubes!!! I have a buddy out in B.C. that runs a business to process these things. You would be amazed at how much "stuff" they recover from fluorescent tubes. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy