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That can start a totally different debate. However, lets be clear that the seals being killed are not being killed for food, but instead for their skins. They are typically left as naked carcasses. As for hunters who hunt for food. I know quite a few of them, after all I do live in Texas. If they hunt animals that are meant to be eaten for food such as deer of feasant, I won't have much to say to them. Still it puzzles my mind how somebody could look at a defenseless animal, shoot it and get pleasure out of it. In that sense, I will hold firm that people who hunt by choice and not by necessity are assholes. But so are people who support abortion and know what it entails and I don't necessarily shut them out. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

You think that I just NOW associated you with that Communists. Ha Ha HA, you have got to be kidding me on that one. I have always associated you with the Communists. I guess you missed the many posts when I said Socialists/leftists/Communists that all mean the same to me. Would I say you are hyprocritical? Hell yes Anti-environmental? Nope didn't say that one. I see that went over your head. What I said was that your kind,(I won't call you a "Liberal" to avoid using the wrong term) does not concern themselves with animal rights. Instead you pretend to be the good guys by talking all that jive about the environment and preserving species. You champion your pretty forests while not caring that animals are suffering as long as they are reproducing fast enough to keep a pretty view for you. Unlike you, I don't spin, that is pretty much your exact stated position. But since you do, I can only imagine what you response will be to this one. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

Well thanks for the compliment.

No, I wouldn't include Al Queda or the Nazis, not sure about Kim Jong Il. But I definately would lump the Communists together with the Democrats, they do after all spew the same crap. Still as I said we can change the word. You tell me what you want to call them. Or should I have just said lefties. Is that satisfactory for you. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

I really don't have time to play right now but since this is a quickie I will respond to it. My point was that I was calling people in the U.S. who follow the Democrat party in every turn it takes regardless of consequece "Liberals". Most of the time that word fits them. However, since we know it does not always fit them we can just call them nimwitts if you wish. BTW. Lincoln was not a liberal by any means. The people that are often called "conservative" just tend to be more justice oriented. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

I have some stuff to do now, maybe I will play word games with you later. As for now I have exposed enough. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

Don't need to do that, liberal can refer to many things. For instance a liberal dictionary author is one who doesn't have a problem redefining a word. When I refer to "liberals" in this context. I am referring to all koolaid drinkers, who act a parrots to the Democrat talking points in the U.S. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

How very convienient to cut it there. How about quote the rest to understand the context. "I would much rather for these seals to become extinct so these stupid ass Canadians would not have have them to torture yearly." Is that too difficult? Or are you just playing word games to defend your hopeless position. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

Now, let's complete the circle. Admit you really admire Clinton. And not just any Clinton - Hillary. Making an absurd statement like that makes me wonder about the rest of your post. Btw. Liberals don't care about black people. They were all for slavery while they had the black people under control. After that they were die hard racists, so much that when Kennedy suggested a different way they started the Dixiecrat party. They don't care about gay rights, they fear gay lobbies. Proof to that is the transgender jokes that they have no problem making. Look up former FBI director Jay Edgar Hoover. He opposed them and there was not a great lobby behind him so they attacked him. And for this specific case they don't care about animal rights. Find a bill that was put forth by a Democrat politician that defended animal rights. I don't mean for you to confuse environmental bull shit with animal rights. No you will hear them say stupidities like, "well as long as the species is not endangered." Somebody cares about animal rights does not give a fuck if a species becomes extinct. I would much rather for these seals to become extinct so these stupid ass Canadians would not have have them to torture yearly. Need more proof of the liberal position read Bill Von's opinion on the matter. He serves us as the parrot for the Demcratic talking points. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

Glad to hear from another person that doesn't hunt or eat meat. Do they actually let you live in Texas I do live in Texas. As for eating meat, I eat what is correctly part of the food chain. I have been through this before. Deer, cows, pigs eat grass, they can extract the chlorophyll from the plants. Plants make their own by photosynthesis. Eating dog, bears or another carnivore is not natural. Do I hunt? Hell no!!! If I was starving and had not other choice I would. But to just go out and shoot an animal for pleasure one has to be an asshole. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

I signed it and left this message. This inhumane activity brings your country to the level of China. Funny thing is recently I read that the Chinese were making cosmetics with the skin of executed criminals. I did not find it at all surprising that a country eating dogs and performing forced abortions would use human skin for cosmetics. Please have some decency and put a stop to this. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

Exactly. Yeah, its pretty clear she is screwing around. The only thing that hasn't been mentioned is that for his best interests, he should be moving on as well. Then again some people enjoy open relationships. For me the thought is beyond sickening. If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

More like crying because you wish you had a penis. Still sadly for you, you know better than any of the rest that having the big diesel truck still does not give you a penis. If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

A man who measures his grass and gets into disputes with the neighbors about people walking on his "perfect" lawn is strange in the head. He's a nut case. Wait and see. rl Kind of reminds me of my neighbor, who is nearly as nutty and has threatened to poison my dog. That reminds me of someone I know who got her horses poisoned by neighbors. It really puzzles me how she knows who did it and yet her next door neighbors still have functional unsmashed windows. Luckily I have good neighbors who would never hurt my dogs. But if I was in your position, I would ask that guy what he preferred to put up with my dogs or to have every window smashed or his house turned on fire. Because I wouldn't hesitate to do either. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

One last comment for this thread. When thinking about that which is really stupid, lets not forget about your avatar. As a concealed handgun license holder, I take offense to the stupidity in your avatar. I would not even draw my gun in the same room with my dogs for fear that they might jump toward it. Your avatar making a joke out pointing a gun at a cat displays extreme stupidity and poor taste. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

sorry I don't have as much free time today to refute stupid statements like that. So if it will make you feel better, I can say you win

the only thing stupider than that statement is you or anybody trying to attack her for it. Its obviously a harmless generalization. I guess if somebody said that black people tended to have better rythm that too would be racist. Obviously it the truth but in your cute liberal fantasy land everybody is the same. If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

Wow....to me thats the DEFINITION of anti-gay. This type of narrow minded behavior makes me naucious . Its really sad that people are that homophobic. Its beyond me really..... Alyssa I actually thought about this and remember when my ex-wife was my ex girlfriend that one time I went to my parents house for Christmas and they didn't let us sleep in the same room. My parents knew I was fornicating it but would not condone it. I never resented my parents for that. 6 years later with my current girlfreind I stayed for a week at my parents house and this time they didn't even question it, they just gave us a room. Did their opinion really change? No but their acceptance level did. In any case just because somebody doesn't approve of your lifestyle doesn't mean you have to shut them out. I do believe gay life is self destructive and disgusting but I don't really care its not my problem when I am not around any action. If that means you want to call me anti gay then so be it. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

I know it's hard to imagine, but that is the situation that most gay couples have to deal with all the time... And if you can imagine yourself in that situation, would you still go to the wedding and keep your distance from your girlfriend? Or would you choose not to hang around the kind of people who would get sick if they saw you holding her hand? --------------------------------------- Keeping my distance might be understood as sitting on one end of the hall while my girlfriend was in another. That was not the case. If that was the case I was presented with then ofcourse not. In this world there are many things that we have to accept even if we don't agree with them. For instance I think that justifying abortion when knowing the facts is an attrosity. But I don't completely dissassociate myself from anybody who thinks its ok. As I said if 95% of the population had a different sexual orientation than me, I may have been conditioned to tolerate their intolerence of my sexual orientation. Then again I may not have, can't say for sure. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

Ok that is a fair enough question so I will answer. First of all me and my girlfreind are for the most part a conventional couple so if me and her getting intimate offended somebody, then that person getting offended probably would not be able to go out into the world without getting offended. Still although, I can't find a situation where your hypothetical situation would actually exist, I will try to picture it. Probably not, but its really hard to imagine, that my lifestyle was a counter culture. If it was then I would have grown up with a different outlook. Kind of like that Ellen Degenerous episode where everybody was gay and there was a straightown where people who weren't gay would be themselves. I think if 95% of the population was had a different orientation than me, I would have grown up to think differently about the sitaution you suggested. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

In public or at a private party is the key there. Think about what I actually said. Don't just play into how Bill Von twists everything up. , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

I realize this may be difficult but the point was not black or gay. I will try very carefully to go slow enough for you here. If you wanted to replace it with a black guy instead, you wouldn't say I once hired a black guy. Hiring one and inviting him to an event as a freind are two completely different things. Then you went on to talk about having a problem with the guy if he touched white women or voting, which would parallel a gay guy touching another one or voting. Again none of which I had said. Then finally the one you got right as long as he did not do anything that made me nasceous, which I might add would have been at MY family gathering to which they were invited. I did not say as long as on their own time away from me they did not act in a fashion, I consider nausiating. [with a sarcastic gentle a voice] Now do you understand? [/sarcasm] . If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

Doesn't parallel, but nothing new there. The converse of that would be, I once hired a gay person (not invited them to an event as a freind) I had no problem with him as long as he didn't touch any gay guys, vote (nope didn't say ANY of that either) or do anything that made me naucious. WOW that is 1 out of 4. I guess that is an improvement for you. Now lets see if you can maybe try again and get 2 out of four this time. If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.

Anti-gay I think implies trying to put a stop to them. All I have said is I don't want to watch them in action. For that they have the privacy or their own home or gay clubs where they have an environment of like-minded people. That is the key like-minded people. Because people like you will otherwise try to suggest that since there is nothing wrong with the bride and groom kissing in public then why not them. Still its clearly a different story, no matter how much you wish it was it was the same. , , If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read.