peacefuljeffrey

If they would just leagalize guns they wouldn't have this problem. Seriously... they are morons!!! Really. Banning non-kitchen knives..I don't get it. Then they will use kitchen knives as weapons..... then they will ban those and will have a country filled with plastic knives and sporks!!! You know what? When I rightly and aptly point out that failure to make the realizations that you explain here means Brits are being morons, I get called out for being "anti British" or a "brit-hater" or something. Why did pointing out idiotic policies become forbidden? Just because it tends to embarrass and hold up to ridicule those who propose/enact idiotic policies? They should be exposed! There is NO EXCUSE for failing to realize that if the only knives available are kitchen knives, then kitchen knives are what will be used in stabbings. Forget for a moment about the fact that these laws will punish those who do not break the law with their folding/hunting/collectible knives. Let's just focus on the fact that this will not in any way prevent or diminish crime!! What the fuck is WRONG with the ability to think rationally in that country?! I am not anti-British, people: I used to be an anglophile. I am anti-STUPIDITY, and it seems you've been manifesting an awful lot of it lately. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

That is NO EXAGGERATION. Nancy is THE BEST! (person, suitmaker, etc.) See that sweet custom job in my avatar? Nancy made that! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

That's fucking insane. It's also hard for me to believe. If the Muslim world were being true to this, why did I read the other day about how they have upsurges of violence during Ramadan? Why does there end up being ANY upsurges of violence during Ramadan? Is the violence only banned from sunrise to sunset? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

OMG for a second I thought the thread said you're FISTING tomorrow! Imagine my disappointment to find out you're talking about food! Are you sure that during Ramadan they don't even drink water?! Sounds like a very UNhealthy thing to do for twelve hours. I know I could not / would not do it. I'd have a mother of a headache after that long with nothing to eat or drink. Could this be why Muslims have been... Oh, wait, this isn't Speakers Corner... -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

And obviously very self-aware of how gosh-darned cute she is! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

You have to wait til its final. *sticks out tongue* Not fair!!! If you can stick that tongue out far enough... you might not have to wait til it's final! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I think you all may be overlooking the strong likelihood that many of these women may not be getting sex from their husbands because they're horrible looking hogs! Isn't it hard to imagine a normal healthy guy not wanting sex with his wife if, for one thing, he married her, and for another, she's good looking? Put it this way: the guys in the U.S. who go to prostitutes -- in general, are they likely to be good looking men with good incomes and normal personalities? Um, probably not. Why would you think that women in Japan having trouble getting sex would be adorable schoolgirl-lookin' chicks or hot sexy mamas? I think there's a lot of wishful thinking going on here... And it seems to me that life in Japan would be ultra depressing. I would never want to live there; don't even have a desire to visit. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Actually, I think the original intent was quite good. Hats off to you, PJ. Vibes again for Mrs. Edwards. My impression is that crozby simply likes to hate my threads. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I suppose I do too, after all, I started the thread. But people have shed a different light on this situation that I had not really thought much about. Edwards wanting doctors to help his wife after he has fucked over so many of them is rather like a person who has attended gun-ban rallies and given money to HCI and voted for gun-ban politicians and written to the papers saying that only the police should have guns hoping that I'll rush to their aid with my own gun if someone is criminally attacking them. I can hardly see anything wrong with letting such a person duke it out with an armed attacker given that if they had their way, I wouldn't even have the gun with which to help them. Of course, the potential exists that if I saved an anti-gunner with a gun of my own, that might wake the motherfucker up to the good guns can be used for, and turn his opinion right around. Then again, probably not, since even Dian fucking Feinstein carried a gun because she knew it could help her defend herself but she still tries to ban them for the rest of us... -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Close, but that's not the real issue with a protective car search. RAS is the basis for a Terry stop, the vehicle has already been stopped. A vehicle pat down is totally about officer safety. For instance, an officer has lawfully detained a vehicle with three occupants. The officer is alone, way out in the boonies. He then observes a box of ammo and an orange hunting cap on the seat, and one of the passengers is acting very nervous. He can't articulate that any illegal activity is going on, but he can objectively articulate that where there is ammo and orange hunting caps, there may be weapons. He can then search anywhere within arms reach of the occupants for the weapon. I can think of a hundred different scenarios like that. Once you can articulate that you believe your safety is in danger, you can conduct a limited search for weapons. Wait a minute. We are way ahead of ourselves here. Why would it be reasonable for a cop to suspect he is in danger from HUNTERS who have made no careful attempts to conceal the fact that they are hunters? Is it reasonable that the cop believes that suddenly three hunters, who engage in a legal activity that involves the use of firearms, are going to suddenly try to KILL him?! Besides, why does the cop need to search for these weapons that hunters are likely to have with them in the vehicle? The cop has already made the default assumption that there are guns present! This is the same "knowledge" of the guns that he would end up with if he did a search and found them: he ALREADY believes they're there! Let him proceed based on that assumption. There is no need for a search to be performed to verify what he is already willing to treat as fact. What would be more reasonable would be for him to watch them carefully as he tells them to step out of the car and explains that he would like to not hassle them, and would like them to simply remain in front of the car (or wherever tactically makes sense to him to keep them) while he does whatever he has to do about the traffic infraction. He could say, "I'd like you to all step out of the car and you passengers, please remain at the hood and keep your hands in my view at all times. Leave any weapons you might have with you in the vehicle. Once we get business concluded I can let you be on your way." Or, do you think that the presence of hunters' caps and ammunition is cause to think they were up to CRIMINAL use of firearms? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I'm not confusing anything. It's not a search incident to arrest, it's a Terry search applied to a vehicle, or a "vehicle pat down". An officer can search the area within arms reach of the occupant, as long as they can objectively articulate that they felt it was for officer safety purposes, and it can only be within arms reach of the occupant (not in the trunk). That would make every console, glove compartment and purse/bag on the passenger's seat fair game in every traffic stop. Somehow I think that would never pass legal muster in court. And I'm glad for it. I love it on "COPS" when the cops stop someone's vehicle, and they ask politely if they can search the vehicle, and they say, "You know, for my safety." This, after 99% of the time asking repeatedly if there are any weapons in the car or on the person that the cop "needs to worry about." My answer would be no, even if I were carrying something. If they later found it on me, I'd say, "You asked about weapons you needed to WORRY about." As I intended the officer no criminal harm, my weapon was not one the officer "needed to worry about." This bullshit about cops asking to intrude on people's rights "for their safety" has to stop. If the guy's weapon was a threat to you, you'd fuckin' know it already. And a guy who wants to keep his weapon from being known to you because he plans to be a threat to you is not going to admit its presence! The really bad part is when on COPS they get permission to search the vehicle and then they DO find drugs or a gun. You gotta figure that the victim only allowed the search because he didn't know -- or was afraid -- to tell the cop to piss off. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

A cop letting people off for something innocuous is one thing. I like to see cops give people the benefit of the doubt. A cop letting a guy off for a serious offense like driving drunk is NOT something I think is a positive thing! And the fact that the moron flipped a car into a ditch is proof that he was not the kind of drunk driver who could just "take it easy" and get himself home safely. Could there not have been a pedestrian on the side of the road? Could there not have been another vehicle nearby? And the potato gun thing. I myself called the cops on some neighborhood idiots who were firing off a potato gun into the air in a densely populated suburban block where I live. How did I know they were firing a potato gun? ONE OF THEIR FUCKIN' POTATOES CAME DOWN [I]IN MY POOL,[/I] WHICH IS THREE STEPS OUTSIDE MY FRONT DOOR. Let's take a moment to recognize that, less air friction, a potato will come back to earth at its terminal velocity, which is probably well into the "could fuck your skull up pretty bad" range. The fact that it could have come down on my car's roof 40 feet away, or ME as I took out the trash, pissed me off bad enough. The cops responded to the house in the block behind me where they were shooting the thing off, but I doubt any kind of action was taken. I think that all that happened was they stopped firing the thing off. A couple of the guys spotted me as I was (unwisely) watching their interaction with the cops through the fence behind my house and across a few vacant lots. They said something like, "There he is, that's the guy," but fortunately, they never seemed to get interested in reprisals. (And a fuck of a lucky thing for them, it was.) -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I would check into the Firearms Owners Protection Act passed under Reagan in 1986. I don't know details of it, but as I understand it part of what the act did was protect those traveling interstate with guns, for the specific reason that all of these bullshit and contradictory laws have the potential to criminally ensnare those who are not doing anything criminally aggressive. Simply peacefully traveling from one place where you are allowed to have a gun to another where you are allowed to have it should NOT be a criminal act. I also recommend that, should it ever come to be proposed, that you vote against anyone who says that guns should be equipped with electronics of any kind, specifically RFID chips that would enable cops to "scan" your vehicle for guns. That would just cause unnecessary trouble for legal gun owners. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

That's why I said Maybe. In general, NO. But then again, in general I don't really KNOW what a person's political views are at the DZ. If you're talking about meeting someone from here on dropzone.com, whose views I've become privy to, then the answer would still likely be No, but it would depend on whether we had had view-related friction and animus. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Okay, well maybe "hate-email" was too strong a term for it. I mean, really, that I've been getting these condescending, "Democrat-voters-know-better-than-you" obnoxious emails from my friends and family because they just... can't... abide the fact that I voted pro-gun with little regard for any other issues in this election. To be straight: I was NOT confrontational with them, I did NOT court these discussions (I did react to them once they were rolling, however), and I sent repeated emails back asking that they please stop condescending because I was taking offense at their attitude that their reasons for picking their political choices were somehow superior to mine, as though they lamented my freedom to use the criteria I chose to use. (Or rather, it was a "criterion.") -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

If I may ask, how much does it cost (in American dollars) for a jump ticket there? How many loads/what kind of aircraft, per day? Given what I know of the exorbitant costs of general aviation in every nation of the world but the U.S. (and it ain't exactly "cheap" here, either), I am conditioned to fear that it would be very costly to get a ride to altitude. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Religion maybe... Islam on its own? Nah. Sorry - your statement is ridiculously off target. There have been plenty of wars and vast amounts of violence nothing to do with Islam. Nice, subtle sleight-of-hand there. Nice attempt to twist the context of what the dude said. He did not mention PAST wars. I think it was pretty clear, in context, that he is talking about the strife in the world TODAY. And I am inclined to agree with him, in general. I get the same impression as he expressed. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Did you make it known to your family, friends and acquaintances that you were voting pro-Bush, and are now receiving emails every couple of days predicting Bush will bring about the end of the world, or economic ruin for the U.S., or environmental ruin for the world, or any other ill on humanity and nature in general? I did, and I am. I'm sure I'm not alone. My dad, brother, and sister all voted for Kerry. My two best friends up in NY both voted for Kerry. I'm pretty sure my brother's in-laws voted for Kerry. I don't know about my other sister and her husband and his family, but I suspect they voted for Kerry. So naturally, I took the brunt of a whole lot of shit-slinging, mostly keeping my mouth shut (if you can believe that!) -- er, at least, until they would bait me. But the controversy and acrimony always originated with them, sending me yet another, "I can't believe you're going to vote Bush even though he... this... and that..." And now my sister is sending me more mindless drivel (you can tell she half-understands the stuff she's saying to me, because all she's doing is really regurgitating MoveOn.org kinda pablum) each day. In one email to a bunch of friends, to which I was CC'd, she said that I was like "the lost sheep of the family"... Why? Because anyone who would vote for Bush must surely be lost, confused, stupid... Imagine the utter arrogance! Calling someone a "lost sheep" because they will be voting differently from you! Not simply admitting, "Hey, we have different values, different views, different preferences, and different desires." There is no getting through to them. I quoted their own words numerous times that PROVED they were being elitist snobs, acting as though anyone who was for Bush just could not be looking at reality objectively, or was just plain stupid. My best friend even emailed me that stupid british tabloid headline about "How can 59M people be so dumb?" I wasn't supposed to take offense at that? I was being called dumb! Well anyway, I think we should hear from people here who have been subjected, by their acquaintances, to nastiness, condescension, harassment, contempt or lack of respect because they voted conservative in the 2004 elections. I want to make the point that as obstreperous and acrimonious as I sometimes get here, I was never an initiator of the disputes I went through with these friends and family members. I was always the defender, never the aggressor. And after Bush became assured of the victory in the election, I did not call, write, or email a single person to gloat about it. I waited for them to contact me first, and even then did not gloat. You should have heard them, though, when they finally did call. I even caught Dad expressing that he hopes Bush screws up, to usher in a new wave of Democrat elected officials. I said, really, Dad, you are saying that rather than hope that things go smoothly and well, you're hoping that Bush screws up? Just to prove, or create, a need for Kerry or another Democrat to fix it all? I said, that's like hoping that the wheel falls off because I insisted that you weren't putting the lug nuts on correctly when you changed the tire. Proves where your head and heart are at. Spite and vindictiveness. More and more, the Democrats are locking that down as "theirs" they way they say Republicans have "hijacked" morals. (Rush Limbaugh was laughing the other day about Dem accusations that Reps have hijacked morals and values. He said, "We've always BEEN about those things, and we're just trying to KEEP them: Democrats are seeing a contrast because they've ABANDONED morals and values!" Words to that effect. It was pure genius!) One positive thing came out of this: My best friend, being smug and self-assured that Kerry would win (I guess), offered me a wager on my voicemail: "If Kerry wins, you join the ACLU this year; If Bush wins, I'll join the NRA this year." I shot him back a text message saying, "Deal. It's a bet." So, you know how that turned out. I'm gonna send him out a membership application and give him til the inauguration to make good on his loss. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

HU-AH, man!! Bust out those wooden clogs and start kickin' some ass!! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

We were talking about this on Halloween at Sebastian... My take on it is, if a guy wants a skydiver girlfriend, he better convert a whuffo... 'cause if he wants a skydiver girlfriend, he's probably gonna have to steal one from another skydiver. At least, that's the way it seems to me. I have never seen a cute skydiver chick who wasn't dating one of the local freefly gods. Well, there's one cutie I can think of, but not even sure if she has a love interest right now. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

You're just jealous, everybody... ella's trolling for a man!!!! Any takers? Sorry. Been ruled out. So I guess I should add, "Single and looking." -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I don't get it, Heidi. Are you saying that my sig line indicates there's something wrong or undesirable about me? It's just a Rush song lyric... and it does a pretty decent job describing me, actually. Sheez! I didn't know I was to be judged so harshly just for putting up a sig line. Are you this hard on everyone? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I'm confused. What's this about me calling bullshit? I didn't do that! Um, this is a girl you used to have casual sex with? Shit, if that was the case, what is the big difficulty with asking for a DATE?! Scratch what I said about lacking confidence to ask a girl out, if the background of the circumstances is that I've already had SEX with her before, and could just call her up and say, "Hey, wanna fuck?" At that point, I wouldn't have a moment's hesitation asking her for something as easy as a date! The hard part's DONE already: you know she's into you at LEAST looks-wise... -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

You're sad? Try being a good, quality guy but never meeting the right girl, and when you think you see one, lacking the confidence to approach, or lacking ideas about how to approach. Sure, I can make conversation, like anyone else, but how to get romance happening? How to get someone "interested"? How to determine if she is? I know that the philosophy/approach of some is to just go for it and if they meet with failure, fine, try again with someone else later. That's either in you or it's not. Oh, I'm great for being open and honest and stuff, once I'm at that point with a girl. I love being that way, but first I have to reach a certain point in a relationship with a girl, and that's the tough part -- getting it all started! Some of us are cursed with this feeling that before we go and try to make something happen with a girl, we want some sort of confidence or assurance that we're going to be received the way we are hoping to be. Getting past the need for that is the difficult part. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

And I want to know why she was talking about "MY horny" "If 'my' horny what and I know it..."? I'm horny and I know it and I'm a handsome male (some days better than others, though ). -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"