peacefuljeffrey

You forgot, "ICE to see you!" ...Oh, wait. That was McBain on The Simpsons! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

This is kinda weird, since you can count this in a number of ways... Like, what if I was with a girl and she went down on me, but we never did more than that? Are we counting only penis-vagina penetration contact as "sex"? In that case, I think, it's 6. But if it's all kindsa mutual oral fun, it shoots up a bit. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Did you ever read the science fiction short story "Harrison Bergeron"? The solution to all the inequality in the world was to make everyone equal through "handicaps." If your eyes see too well, here are glasses you must wear to make your vision less acute. If you hear too well, here are earplugs you must wear so you can't hear as well. If you're too athletic and strong, here are weights you must wear to make you slow and unsteady and weakened. If you're too smart, here are plugs that go in your ears to blare distracting noises so that you can never concentrate for very long. This is the way we are headed, people. We are apparently letting the inmates run the asylum, and it is going to ruin us, and everything. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Okay, call me partisan if you want, but I think it's accurate to say that Democrat-leftist types generally are the ones who come up with this kind of mamsy-pamsy shit and Republican-rightists generally are the ones calling it stupid -- which it assuredly is. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Oh, and I'll bet you were right at the fore complaining about this very same expense when it was Bill Clinton using your tax dollars to get re-elected. I'll bet that making that bet would lose me money, I mean. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I'm telling you... people in other threads accuse me of being anti-England or anti-European, but the truth really is I'm anti-government-overcontrolling-citizens-and-their-freedom. That's what the tide is bringing in both England and in Europe as a whole. It scares and disappoints (and yes, angers) me that they have not learned some very crucial lessons of history. And so you get bans on laser tag. I wonder, will they ban any video game in which the player "shoots a person"? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Call me perverted, sure, but that is such an amazingly hot mental picture! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

"They smell good...and they taste good....and pretty soon you'd STEP OVER YOUR OWN MOTHER TO GET ONE!!!!" -Homer Simpson on beer. "But you can't stop at one. You wanna drink another woman!" Actually, a woman is more like a refrigerator. They're about six feet tall... three hundred pounds... They make...ice... LOL! Homer's the king! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Leave out "soft" and SO AM I!! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

You seem to be willfully confusing my starting a discussion thread with an emphatic opinion offered at the same time, with trolling. You believe I'm not. I believe I am. No one has been specifically singled-out with epithets or insults (unlike your calling me a troll), and I have started a good-faith thread that I have remained in to discuss the issue. We've been unfortunately sidetracked by your calling me a troll, which is hypocritical since Brits have, as has been mentioned, jumped on the bandwagon of "troll" threads like the "fat Americans" one, and ANY of the ones about Bush! Now FOR SURE I have seen someone get at least a warning for telling someone else to do exactly that. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

LOL! Uh oh... Are British eyes getting to be as bad as their teeth?! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I don't know, but you seem to have switched to "talkin' ghetto." "What my name is?! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Ooh! Ooh! I'm gonna go rush over to the "FAT AMERICA" thread and see if I can get there before you hurriedly add your condemnation of the mean-spirited attack on American culture! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I post about things I want to see discussed, thank you very much, and as you can see, that's exactly what happens. Do I abandon the thread after setting people hopping, as a troll would? No. I engage in the discussion. You really need to stop calling me a troll, because it not only is an inapplicable epithet, it amounts to a personal insult, and forum rules forbid that. Maybe billvon or someone will put you under an ASBO rather than ban you for a couple of weeks. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Well dude ...come on... They had to leave one thing! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

And sometimes I'm not. For the record, I have been to England. I spent a semester of college there in 1992. I enjoyed the time I spent there -- although there are definitely lifestyle differences that I don't care for, compared with life here, to which I am so accustomed. I would not RETURN there because the attitudes of Brits regarding justice and rights sicken me. The Orwellian direction in which your country is heading troubles me. People here are watching what you are doing over there, and getting (bad) ideas, and then they attempt to institute these atrocities -- like cameras watching the people on every street corner -- in MY country. So naturally I criticize the departure from sanity that England is engaged in. I used to be an "anglophile," and now I am just disgusted. England used to be such a cool place. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

When The Guardian solicits for assassins of American presidents, I think it's pretty tame to suggest we simply fornicate with Britain's monarch. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

They've already crossed the border into hypocrisy. They ridicule the website access limits as anti-"article 19," but I'm sure they would defend any given person's right to, say, run a restaurant and require people to wear long pants and collared shirts. The difference is what, exactly? Proprietary ownership is proprietary ownership. I think they're just mad because with what their taxes are up to, for paying for their socialized medicine, they can't afford all the porn sites they wish they could be members of, and they want the right to limit access thrown out in corut so that the doors would be flung open and then they could see titties and other naughty bits! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Okay, and I suppose I'm not supposed to have a problem with THAT situation?! Why the hell can't the police get her for EITHER an ASBO or just a plain old charge of DRUNK DRIVING?! This reinforces my notion that Britain has an upside-down criminal justice system. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Well, since my point, really, is that nothing valid can be said in defense of these preposterous ASBOs -- especially when they are issued for things that could easily be charged as criminal acts -- you're helping me out by saying nothing in reply to my request for a discussion. Your government is essentially saying, "We've caught you at this crime; society says you can't do it; we could charge you; but we're going to let you go, subject you to a different set of laws from what the general public is subject to (i.e. not allowed to wear hats), and give you the opportunity to do your particular "crime" again before we try you for it, which we could do right here and now." Imagine that a person went out and raped a few women, and it was found that he did so using nylon rope to tie them up. It seems, from this article, that your government would likely issue an ASBO prohibiting the guy from owning nylon rope. And they'd set him free and wait for him to break the ASBO, buy more nylon rope, rape another woman with it, and then maybe they'd ship his ass off to prison where it belongs. Thanks for helping, through your reticence, to get my point established and proven. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

This story is very unsettling. It's an insight into how insane things have become in England. AntiSocial Behavior Orders are applied in bizarre ways Okay, the big problem I have with these is that the British police are issuing these so-called "ASBOs" to "ban" people from doing various things -- without trial -- instead of sensibly just charging people with a crime. It seems like the ASBOs amount to probation, i.e. "Don't do this: you get a chance, but if you do it you go to jail." But I'm not sure exactly how it works. Now, the article is not clear as to WHAT the repercussions of breaking an ASBO are... so I don't know if someone will go to jail if he or she breaks one's edicts. Some of these things are really head-scratchers: So rather than charge her with a crime like, "Falsely reporting an incident" or something (we have that in the U.S.), they tell her she can't use the emergency service (which I assume is like our 911). So what if she ends up really needing it? Now, I realize that she was being a true nuisance, yes. But did she get a TRIAL before being ordered to not use the 999 service? Or is she punished without due process? Here's another: WTF?! "Banned from assaulting"?! Isn't EVERYONE "banned from assaulting"?! Why is there a special order, an "ASBO," needed to tell someone he may not do something for which the law already provides a basis for arresting, prosecuting and imprisoning him?! Brits are not free to own private property, nor use it as they see fit, apparently. Why does this case require an ASBO? Are there no noise ordinances available to be enforced, with their own penalty at law? How can the police order someone to LIVE in a certain place? How can they simply confiscate someone's stereo and musical recordings?! I guess it's easy when the people have no protection of their rights. Too bad about that lack of a First Amendment over there. Singling people out to not have freedom of speech. Now that's novel. But this one takes First Prize: Don't prosecute him for THEFT or FRAUD! Just tell him he can't ring doorbells!! I'm sure that fixes the problem of the guy being a thief! I wonder, if he goes up and just knocks on the door, if he can still get in trouble. What the fuck is going on over there, people?! This is ludicrous! It seems, from my perspective here, that your system is trying its best to imitate the inane reasoning of something like "Alice In Wonderland"!! How can it be that rather than punish a guy for stealing from TWO HUNDRED FIFTY PEOPLE -- surely you still have laws against fraud and theft?! -- you instead tell him he is not allowed to approach houses?! Can't you see that still leaves him able to steal from people in other ways?! How about a discussion of these ASBOs? I'll kick it off: "ASBOs are yet another further indication that the British criminal justice system is utterly, absolutely inept, corrupt, and incompetent, and it has simply thrown up its hands and all-but-admitted, 'We just don't know what the fuck to do!' " -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Whoops! Say what you might about The Washington Times, I was thinking of The Washington Post when I wrote that. The rest stands. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

No. The Washington Times just broke the story. Fox just repeated it, badly. "Almost certainly" is not the same as "certainly". LOL! -- The Washington Times is certainly not biased, either!! So let me see if I understand this. High explosives -- weapons of mass destruction -- were taken out of Iraq prior to our entry, by Russia, a country which along with France and Germany (all of which opposed the war) was embezzling wealth through the oil-for-food program, and which sold Iraq arms? Doesn't that mean that Iraq did indeed possess the WMD that Bush's intelligence said they'd had? Doesn't that not only justify the war but also implicate Russia as our ENEMY once again, working deliberately and surreptitiously against us?? And then didn't say anything as our country tore itself apart over whether the war was justified?! And now the story gets broken and what is Russia going to say to cop out for this? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Would you elaborate, please? Let me tell you what I think you mean. Harris "rigged" the voting in Florida for 2000, knowing with psychic foreknowledge that it was all going to come down to Florida anyway. She personally gave the order to keep blacks away from the polls. She personally forced democrats to screw up their ballots. She personally took over the United States Supreme Court and put an end to the endless recounts that the democrats sought. And so the Republicans "awarded" her a seat in Congress, and there was never an election in which she won the popular vote for her district. Such are the string-pulling powers of Republicans that they can just "put" a person into congressional office! Is that what you meant by she did her duty and got her reward? That she was "given" a Congressional seat and there was absolutely no fair election that got her there? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Well, are you saying that there's no such word as "treasoner"? I thought I had heard it, but dictionary.com says no entry found. Weird. I always thought it was a word. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"